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App spree; unexpected outcomes and lesson

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PapaTunde
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Re: App spree; unexpected outcomes and lesson

Congrats on your three new cards

All Fico9 835+ or there abouts

These violent delights have violent ends
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Anonymalous
Valued Contributor

Re: App spree; unexpected outcomes and lesson


@Anonymous wrote:

@BronzeTrader wrote:

For each card application, we need to get a plan.  When we apply, we go after new card bonus, benefits, better earning rate or more credit.  With any spreee, we are not after new card bonus and benefits.  Mostly for the total credit line.  

 

The question is that, do we really need that much credit line in such a spree?

 


Huh, in my case I had clear goals, not necessarily SL(but the more the merrier! Smiley LOL )

 

Bilt for rent, transfer pt to airline like AA, primary CDW, no FTF

 

AA for airfare(but one could of course argue that you could just pay with cb cc, it's not like MileUp has any huge side benefits lol)

 

PenFed, diversify(CU AND my first Visa), got checking so why not Smiley LOL , no FTF, CDW too methinks? In this case I hoped for at least 5k SL, since my EQ report is the cleanest(fewest inqs)

 

Future apps all have clear goals

 

Citi CC versatile, charge IW tennis tournament ticket and get 5% back

Citi Rewards+, useful function, both Citi CCs need not have huge SLs, in fact could PC to those

US Bank Cash+ my ultimate cb card, cover so many areas: transit, gym, cell phone bill, fast food 5% (ideally need 2 lol, so maybe another CU's Max Preferred)

WF Autograph, versatile including gas and travel 3%, no FTF

As general travel card, Disco Miles and BOA TR, and I like BOA's Museum on Us program

 

Will ditch Tomo and Synchrony Amazon sooner or later, no use for them


 


The US Bank Cash+ is on my short list as well. I'd actually prefer a Max Cash Preferred because you don't have to set the categories once a quarter (once you set them, they persist), but the only local FI that offers a MCP has a terrible rep (yes, I know I could get one from further away), while USB currently has a really good checking bonus and the fees are waived with a card. So I'm torn. Either way, I will be at 1/12 shortly, so I should at least have a chance.

 

If I thought I could get it, I would have snapped up the Citi Custom Cash as my second card last year. But right now, it's an EX pull which is my worst, and the new AAA Everday's 5% on groceries is a very attractive substitute. I'm just not sure about Comenity, and would like confirmation you don't have to be a member to hold the card.

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uncredited
Frequent Contributor

Re: App spree; unexpected outcomes and lesson

@BronzeTrader  Some of us consider 5 in over two years to be app sprees Smiley Happy

 

@Anonymalous  It really is impressive how different the three of our routes went. It's hard to figure out who had the better idea. I'm lining up only "premium" cards without the junk, but OTOH, @Anonymous  has TONS of accounts and arguably the much more useful profile than mine that's premium but barely more thickness than before I started. I may be the worse one in the final profile. Although I will say the deny in there massively derailed where I would have been now. If the July app had been an approve I'd be talking about adding a 4th next month rather than still debating about the third, so not all of my route was restraint, I was kind of forced into the excessive restraint path by the deny on the critical number 3 combined with the inqu of number three making Amex pull any prequal offers at the time so I couldn't go my alternate route either so everything is 1 card and 3 months deferred. I wouldn't have been QUITE the paragon of indecisive conservatism that I am had that gone the other way. If I had done it the @Anonymous way an gone for for the lower hanging fruit to add an account Cap1 wmt at the time, would I be ahead or behind now? IDK. This contrast is good though.  There's virtually none of this on the forums, the 3 of us and a few other fit a very underserved niche here were "new credit" mostly represents students/wealthy immigrants otherwise which is very different. We're very much among a smallish group of outliers with few DPs available.

 

And by mini-spree you mean 2 or maybe 3 cards for the YEAR right? Smiley Wink

 

@Beefy1212  "No one gets denied for too many inquiries with no inquiries in 15 months"
FNBO prequal denied me for "too many inquiries" with a grand total of 1, lifetime....though it was within 15 months.... There's an exception to every rule Smiley Wink

 

And people wonder why I think every app must be a 100% gurarantee Smiley LOL

 

 

 

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: App spree; unexpected outcomes and lesson


@Anonymalous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@BronzeTrader wrote:

For each card application, we need to get a plan.  When we apply, we go after new card bonus, benefits, better earning rate or more credit.  With any spreee, we are not after new card bonus and benefits.  Mostly for the total credit line.  

 

The question is that, do we really need that much credit line in such a spree?

 


Huh, in my case I had clear goals, not necessarily SL(but the more the merrier! Smiley LOL )

 

Bilt for rent, transfer pt to airline like AA, primary CDW, no FTF

 

AA for airfare(but one could of course argue that you could just pay with cb cc, it's not like MileUp has any huge side benefits lol)

 

PenFed, diversify(CU AND my first Visa), got checking so why not Smiley LOL , no FTF, CDW too methinks? In this case I hoped for at least 5k SL, since my EQ report is the cleanest(fewest inqs)

 

Future apps all have clear goals

 

Citi CC versatile, charge IW tennis tournament ticket and get 5% back

Citi Rewards+, useful function, both Citi CCs need not have huge SLs, in fact could PC to those

US Bank Cash+ my ultimate cb card, cover so many areas: transit, gym, cell phone bill, fast food 5% (ideally need 2 lol, so maybe another CU's Max Preferred)

WF Autograph, versatile including gas and travel 3%, no FTF

As general travel card, Disco Miles and BOA TR, and I like BOA's Museum on Us program

 

Will ditch Tomo and Synchrony Amazon sooner or later, no use for them


 


The US Bank Cash+ is on my short list as well. I'd actually prefer a Max Cash Preferred because you don't have to set the categories once a quarter (once you set them, they persist), but the only local FI that offers a MCP has a terrible rep (yes, I know I could get one from further away), while USB currently has a really good checking bonus and the fees are waived with a card. So I'm torn. Either way, I will be at 1/12 shortly, so I should at least have a chance.

 

If I thought I could get it, I would have snapped up the Citi Custom Cash as my second card last year. But right now, it's an EX pull which is my worst, and the new AAA Everday's 5% on groceries is a very attractive substitute. I'm just not sure about Comenity, and would like confirmation you don't have to be a member to hold the card.


What? Credit card, checking monthly fee waived?! Ugh when will I get it lol does secured card count. Thx! 

 

Smartly;

'or hold an eligible U.S. Bank credit card'

What is eligible then? 🤔

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Anonymalous
Valued Contributor

Re: App spree; unexpected outcomes and lesson


@Anonymous wrote:


What? Credit card, checking monthly fee waived?! Ugh when will I get it lol does secured card count. Thx! 

 

Smartly;

'or hold an eligible U.S. Bank credit card'

What is eligible then? 🤔


Clear as mud, isn't it? Here's a slightly better source (PDF):

https://www.usbank.com/content/dam/usbank/documents/pdf/deposits/consumer-pricing-information/deposit-products.pdf

 

Among the requirements to waive the $6.95 monthly fee on the Smartly checking account, it says "Presence of an eligible U.S. Bank credit card4", with the footnote "4. Qualifying accounts include U.S. Bank activated credit cards. Credit products are subject to eligibility requirements and normal credit approval and may be subject to additional charges such as annual fees."

 

That sounds pretty broad, but I'd still call to check about their secured card.

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Beefy1212
Established Contributor

Re: App spree; unexpected outcomes and lesson


@uncredited wrote:

 

@Beefy1212  "No one gets denied for too many inquiries with no inquiries in 15 months"
FNBO prequal denied me for "too many inquiries" with a grand total of 1, lifetime....though it was within 15 months.... There's an exception to every rule Smiley Wink

 

And people wonder why I think every app must be a 100% gurarantee Smiley LOL

 

 

 


When I was instant approved for my fnbo I was 24/12 inquiries with an inquiry to Affinity the same day. USB gave me a card despite being 6/12 new accounts one less than 20 days old despite the well reported 0-2/12 rule... I tell people all the time, the denial code is almost never the actual reason it is just the reason they slapped on the descision letter. At the end of the day they do what they want.



Message 36 of 43
uncredited
Frequent Contributor

Re: App spree; unexpected outcomes and lesson

@Beefy1212 



When I was instant approved for my fnbo I was 24/12 inquiries with an inquiry to Affinity the same day. USB gave me a card despite being 6/12 new accounts one less than 20 days old despite the well reported 0-2/12 rule... I tell people all the time, the denial code is almost never the actual reason it is just the reason they slapped on the descision letter. At the end of the day they do what they want.


To be totally fair, it was a bit in jest.  It was a prequal not an app they denied for those reasons.  Inquiries was absurd as a reason and was their own, the rest of the absurd (not enough cards reporting balances, too many cards reporting balances (1 of 2)) I found out were just copied from EX Bankcard 8 resiliency reasons. But I don't actually know if an app would have been denied or not. Still it was a denial for inquiries with a grand total of one! Smiley Happy

 

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: App spree; unexpected outcomes and lesson


@Beefy1212 wrote:

@uncredited wrote:

 

@Beefy1212  "No one gets denied for too many inquiries with no inquiries in 15 months"
FNBO prequal denied me for "too many inquiries" with a grand total of 1, lifetime....though it was within 15 months.... There's an exception to every rule Smiley Wink

 

And people wonder why I think every app must be a 100% gurarantee Smiley LOL

 

 

 


When I was instant approved for my fnbo I was 24/12 inquiries with an inquiry to Affinity the same day. USB gave me a card despite being 6/12 new accounts one less than 20 days old despite the well reported 0-2/12 rule... I tell people all the time, the denial code is almost never the actual reason it is just the reason they slapped on the descision letter. At the end of the day they do what they want.


Wow you're clearly the winner Smiley LOL Maybe I should take heart and apply for USB Cash+ right away 😆  I don't mind toy limits, it will be for 5% categories and on 1 card, at best will be $50 except for fast food Smiley Very Happy

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Beefy1212
Established Contributor

Re: App spree; unexpected outcomes and lesson

Yea, I am trying to get away from toy limits my profile is old enough I want to start getting real limits I have added just under 50k tcl to my profile this year.



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Beefy1212
Established Contributor

Re: App spree; unexpected outcomes and lesson


@uncredited wrote:

@Beefy1212 



When I was instant approved for my fnbo I was 24/12 inquiries with an inquiry to Affinity the same day. USB gave me a card despite being 6/12 new accounts one less than 20 days old despite the well reported 0-2/12 rule... I tell people all the time, the denial code is almost never the actual reason it is just the reason they slapped on the descision letter. At the end of the day they do what they want.


To be totally fair, it was a bit in jest.  It was a prequal not an app they denied for those reasons.  Inquiries was absurd as a reason and was their own, the rest of the absurd (not enough cards reporting balances, too many cards reporting balances (1 of 2)) I found out were just copied from EX Bankcard 8 resiliency reasons. But I don't actually know if an app would have been denied or not. Still it was a denial for inquiries with a grand total of one! Smiley Happy

 


Surprised they gave you actual reason codes on a pre-qual rather than just the no offers at this time message.

 

I also don't understand why they don't just tell you the real reason you would think they would be incentivized to say we want to see 3 inquiries fall over and your utilization improve or we want to see more income/spend/history. Again you would think they would want to generate better leads for themselves. They make zero money denying you they can see your entire report with a soft pull no reason for nonsense like pre-quals that give bad reason codes or suggest cards their computer is going to reject it literally helps no one including themselves.



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