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AOD Nerf has come

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Bockrocker
Frequent Contributor

Re: AOD Nerf has come


@xenon3030 wrote:

The BOA UR card is possibly among the best replacement cards (1.5% x 1.75x due to Plat honor --> 2.6%). There is no cap.


In a thread where people are arguing the opportunity cost of keeping 1k at Alliant to earn 2.5%, I feel like keeping 100k somewhere to earn 2.62% is a non starter (even if you can invest it how you like).

 

There are some other interesting options to consider.

 

SoFi card offers unlimited 2.2% and no FTF, although it is a MC (I'd prefer Visa).  Only hoop is a direct deposit, but the $1 I divert from my paycheck works to trigger SoFi Plus.

 

Citi DC (which I used to have but changed to CC) offers unlimited 2% (also a MC).  If willing to apply for the Rewards+ card as well this is bumped to 2.2% for up to 50k yearly spend (I think my math is right on that).  If willing to add the Affinity checking account on top you can bump it to 3.2% for the first $1k spend per month.  If you have other citi cards or already max out Affinity on something this setup loses some charm, and @$100 max value per year I think the Rewards+ card is a bit of a waste.

 

I am a bit entrenched in the Fidelity ecosystem as well and it's Visa with no FTF which is nice.

 

But I've heard some things...like Fidelity card doesn't earn points at giftcards.com and SoFi doesn't earn points on bank account funding?  etc... I don't really MS but I just don't like any restrictions like that.  I know Citi doesn't really care.  I need to do some more research.

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GatorCowboyLion
Regular Contributor

Re: AOD Nerf has come

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This is a real bummer. Most of our uncat spend is covered by $1500 a month, but it's going to be annoying to track every month. 1% after that is garbage. I will continue to accumulate 5% cards and even duplicates to mitigate this.

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: AOD Nerf has come


@GatorCowboyLion wrote:

 

This is a real bummer. Most of our uncat spend is covered by $1500 a month, but it's going to be annoying to track every month. 1% after that is garbage. I will continue to accumulate 5% cards and even duplicates to mitigate this.


Yes, I think if they had gone 3% on $1,500, 2% after, people would be much more willing to keep.   Maybe that's too much financial cost for AOD?  

It was similar with US Alliance once they nerfed 3% (well, the second time, they nerfed it once for a month or two then brought it back).  They announced it would be 6%/1% (6 on supermarkets) then changed it to 6%/2% which made it a very useful card.   Sadly only for about 15 months!

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ptatohed
Senior Contributor

Re: AOD Nerf has come

I do wish they did it in phases with the first phase being raising the interest rate.  Who knows, maybe those carrying a balance at the higher rate might have supported those of us that PIF. 

 

I too wish that after the 3% cap, it switched to 2%.  I would just keep it and not make any changes.  

 

I do fear that what we are seeing now is actually phase 1 and we can expect another nerf in the future.  

Everyday 5% CB:
Chase prime Visa // citi CUSTOM CASH “A” // citi CUSTOM CASH “B” // citi CUSTOM CASH “C” // citi ThankYou (5% gas, lucrative spending offers) // mylowe’s Rewards // Target circle card

Rotating 5% CB:
Chase “OG” freedom Visa // DISCOVER it Cash Back // nusenda CU Platinum Cash Rewards

Everyday 4% CB:
US Bank Smartly (v1.0)

Everyday 3% / 2.2% CB:
AOD FCU Visa Signature (3%, sockdrawered) // upgrade Cash Rewards Elite (2.2%, sockdrawered)

Welcome Offer / credits only:
NFCU FLAGSHIP REWARDS (elevated Welcome Offer, annual prime credit, sockdrawered)

Hotel card:
Chase IHG ONE REWARDS PREMIER (elevated Welcome Offer, 1 free night/yr)

On my radar:
Langely FCU Signature Cash Back (5% CB monthly selectable cat) // Safe CU Cash Back+ (Quarterly rotating 5% CB cats plus bonus cats) // upgrade MyFive Cash Rewards (5% CB monthly selectable cat) // US Bank Kroger (and family) World Elite Master Card(s) (5% CB Mobile Wallet)
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ptatohed
Senior Contributor

Re: AOD Nerf has come


@Bockrocker wrote:

@xenon3030 wrote:

The BOA UR card is possibly among the best replacement cards (1.5% x 1.75x due to Plat honor --> 2.6%). There is no cap.


In a thread where people are arguing the opportunity cost of keeping 1k at Alliant to earn 2.5%, I feel like keeping 100k somewhere to earn 2.62% is a non starter (even if you can invest it how you like).

 

...

 

Citi DC (which I used to have but changed to CC) offers unlimited 2% (also a MC).  If willing to apply for the Rewards+ card as well this is bumped to 2.2% for up to 50k yearly spend (I think my math is right on that).  If willing to add the Affinity checking account on top you can bump it to 3.2% for the first $1k spend per month.  If you have other citi cards or already max out Affinity on something this setup loses some charm, and @$100 max value per year I think the Rewards+ card is a bit of a waste.

...


Not exactly @Bockrocker .  First, it's 2.22(22222...)% because every time you redeem your points, there is a 10% boost.  So you spend $100 and earn $2.  You redeem that $2 and you get 20c.  You redeem that 20c and you get 2c.  And so on.  Smiley Happy  But, it isn't really $50,000 spend per year, it is the first 100,000 TYPs earned/redeemed per year (combined amongst your linked citi cards).  Which, yes, equals an extra $100/yr at the end of the day (which I won't say no to Smiley Happy ).  But the 100,000 points can be reached in any number of ways.  The 2% (2.22% Smiley Wink ) earned on the DC.  The TYPs earned on your linked R+ (including the 10 point roundup on small purchases).  The 5% (5.55% Smiley Wink ) earned with a linked CC.  The 10% boost TYPs when redeeming your TYPs.  You get the idea.  Smiley Happy  

Everyday 5% CB:
Chase prime Visa // citi CUSTOM CASH “A” // citi CUSTOM CASH “B” // citi CUSTOM CASH “C” // citi ThankYou (5% gas, lucrative spending offers) // mylowe’s Rewards // Target circle card

Rotating 5% CB:
Chase “OG” freedom Visa // DISCOVER it Cash Back // nusenda CU Platinum Cash Rewards

Everyday 4% CB:
US Bank Smartly (v1.0)

Everyday 3% / 2.2% CB:
AOD FCU Visa Signature (3%, sockdrawered) // upgrade Cash Rewards Elite (2.2%, sockdrawered)

Welcome Offer / credits only:
NFCU FLAGSHIP REWARDS (elevated Welcome Offer, annual prime credit, sockdrawered)

Hotel card:
Chase IHG ONE REWARDS PREMIER (elevated Welcome Offer, 1 free night/yr)

On my radar:
Langely FCU Signature Cash Back (5% CB monthly selectable cat) // Safe CU Cash Back+ (Quarterly rotating 5% CB cats plus bonus cats) // upgrade MyFive Cash Rewards (5% CB monthly selectable cat) // US Bank Kroger (and family) World Elite Master Card(s) (5% CB Mobile Wallet)
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Bubblewhale
New Member

Re: AOD Nerf has come

Pretty much all of my cash/emergency fund is under TTTXX with Merrill Edge CMA. Sell before 11:45AM PST trading day and can access the money instantly with Merrill/BoA.

 

Currently TTTXX money market fund is sitting at 5.18% 7 day yield. It mostly deals with Treasuries so it's more state-tax exempt compared to like SPAXX. But keep in mind once the fed drops rates, this also drops. 

 

It's nice having this option while making my way towards Platinum Honors while counting my IRAs. One of the best options to get towards highest flat cashback 2.625%. With the BoA PR, it can be a "free $5 per year card" depending how you use your travel credits. 

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xenon3030
Valued Contributor

Re: AOD Nerf has come


@Bockrocker wrote:

SoFi card offers unlimited 2.2% and no FTF, although it is a MC (I'd prefer Visa).  Only hoop is a direct deposit, but the $1 I divert from my paycheck works to trigger SoFi Plus.


There are plenty of negative comments on SoFi CC and the way that SoFi handles credit cards. So, I pass it. Anyway, SoFi has great checking/saving and I am keeping my emergency funds in the saving account. Its checking provides free checks.


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Hansolojr
Regular Contributor

Re: AOD Nerf has come

Good point this.  Merrill's money market options are comparable to Vanguard/Fido/Schwab, so parking 100k there is not as big of an opportunity cost versus savings accounts, especially if you use fully/partially tax exempt funds like TTTXX and MCSXX.  Yes MMFs will follow the Fed down, but so will savings accounts (and anything else that is short duration fixed income.)

 

Getting to 100k is hard, but for those already in the BofA ecosystem, the Preferred Rewards program makes sense.  Been around since at least 2014 and no known nerfs so far.  

 

RIP AOD 3% - thought it would last longer since they closed the bike club backdoor, but 3% uncapped is just too painful.  Yet another CU FOTM bites the dust.  Better get your Redstone apps in...

 

 


@Bubblewhale wrote:

Pretty much all of my cash/emergency fund is under TTTXX with Merrill Edge CMA. Sell before 11:45AM PST trading day and can access the money instantly with Merrill/BoA.

 

Currently TTTXX money market fund is sitting at 5.18% 7 day yield. It mostly deals with Treasuries so it's more state-tax exempt compared to like SPAXX. But keep in mind once the fed drops rates, this also drops. 

 

It's nice having this option while making my way towards Platinum Honors while counting my IRAs. One of the best options to get towards highest flat cashback 2.625%. With the BoA PR, it can be a "free $5 per year card" depending how you use your travel credits. 


 


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Citylights18
Valued Contributor

Re: AOD Nerf has come

Glad I avoided the AOD hype train in the first place.

 

There are so many restaurant or grocery cards that do 3% or better. BoA has 3% online shopping. Amazon has 5% cards. There aren't too many holes to be filled for a catch all 3% card anyways. Utilities charge more if you don't direct deposit which negates any cash back.

Official travel point totals as of 10/21/24 (1,358,177 Total Points)
Chase Ultimate Rewards 696,884 | IHG One Rewards 144,957 | Hilton Honors 144,521 | AMEX Membership Rewards 102,729 | World of Hyatt 76,095 | Marriott Bonvoy 65,343 | Citi Thank You 38,153 | Choice Rewards 32,460 | United MileagePlus 13,316 | British Airways Avios 12,333 | Jet Blue TrueBlue 11,780 | Wells Fargo Rewards 2,858 | Southwest Rapid Rewards 2,447 | NASA Platinum Rewards 1,883 | AA Advantage 1,744 | Navy Federal Rewards 1,087 | Delta Sky Miles 175 | Virgin Atlantic Virgin Points 100 | Lowes Business Rewards 7,102 ($71.02) | Amazon Rewards 2,200 ($4.75) | Discover CB 10 ($0.10)
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CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: AOD Nerf has come


@Citylights18 wrote:

Glad I avoided the AOD hype train in the first place.

 

There are so many restaurant or grocery cards that do 3% or better. BoA has 3% online shopping. Amazon has 5% cards. There aren't too many holes to be filled for a catch all 3% card anyways. Utilities charge more if you don't direct deposit which negates any cash back.


Why is that lasted over 4 years and know i came close to 10k cashback and sure many people beat me out on that.  Card lived a nice life and still suits a purpose although capped.

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