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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Amex APR increase due to FICO score decrease

I was recently notified that the APR on one of my Amex cards has been increased 2 200 basis points, from 19.49% to 21.49%, based solely upon my FICO score. (distinct from the .25% raise to 19.49% generated by the Fed's credit tightening).  This despite the fact that my payment record with Amex has been pristine, for decades.

 

To me, this is just one more illustration of the importance of maintaining one's FICO scores at optimal level at all times, not just when making a major credit application.

 

Many people are fond of saying "Finances > FICO". This is an example of "FICO = Finances"


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: Amex APR increase due to FICO score decrease

How much of a decrease are we talking about? 

    
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Amex APR increase due to FICO score decrease


@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

How much of a decrease are we talking about? 


I have no idea.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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wasCB14
Super Contributor

Re: Amex APR increase due to FICO score decrease


@SouthJamaica wrote:

I was recently notified that the APR on one of my Amex cards has been increased 2 basis points, from 19.49% to 21.49%, based solely upon my FICO score. (distinct from the .25% raise to 19.49% generated by the Fed's credit tightening).  This despite the fact that my payment record with Amex has been pristine, for decades.

 

To me, this is just one more illustration of the importance of maintaining one's FICO scores at optimal level at all times, not just when making a major credit application.

 

Many people are fond of saying "Finances > FICO". This is an example of "FICO = Finances"


That's actually 200 basis points. A 2 basis point increase would be to 19.51%.

 

Neither 19.49% or 21.49% is an interest rate that anyone should be paying. I'd sooner have a few low-APR no-rewards no-frills credit union cards than pay anything close to 19.49%.

Personal spend: Amex Gold, Amex Schwab Plat., BofA PR+CCR(x2), Costco
Business use: Amex Bus. Plat., BBP, Lowes Amex AU, CFU AU
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Amex APR increase due to FICO score decrease


@wasCB14 wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

I was recently notified that the APR on one of my Amex cards has been increased 2 basis points, from 19.49% to 21.49%, based solely upon my FICO score. (distinct from the .25% raise to 19.49% generated by the Fed's credit tightening).  This despite the fact that my payment record with Amex has been pristine, for decades.

 

To me, this is just one more illustration of the importance of maintaining one's FICO scores at optimal level at all times, not just when making a major credit application.

 

Many people are fond of saying "Finances > FICO". This is an example of "FICO = Finances"


That's actually 200 basis points. A 2 basis point increase would be to 19.51%.

 

Neither 19.49% or 21.49% is an interest rate that anyone should be paying. I'd sooner have a few low-APR no-rewards no-frills credit union cards than pay anything close to 19.49%.


1.  Thanks for the correction Smiley Happy Sorry about that.

 

2.  It's a card I always pay in full, and never pay interest on. 


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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hawkins
Frequent Contributor

Re: Amex APR increase due to FICO score decrease

They did the same to me except my score has not changed at all. So be it was on a card I dont really use anyways so whatever.


@SouthJamaica wrote:

I was recently notified that the APR on one of my Amex cards has been increased 2 basis points, from 19.49% to 21.49%, based solely upon my FICO score. (distinct from the .25% raise to 19.49% generated by the Fed's credit tightening).  This despite the fact that my payment record with Amex has been pristine, for decades.

 

To me, this is just one more illustration of the importance of maintaining one's FICO scores at optimal level at all times, not just when making a major credit application.

 

Many people are fond of saying "Finances > FICO". This is an example of "FICO = Finances"


 

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Amex APR increase due to FICO score decrease


@SouthJamaica wrote:

@wasCB14 wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

I was recently notified that the APR on one of my Amex cards has been increased 2 basis points, from 19.49% to 21.49%, based solely upon my FICO score. (distinct from the .25% raise to 19.49% generated by the Fed's credit tightening).  This despite the fact that my payment record with Amex has been pristine, for decades.

 

To me, this is just one more illustration of the importance of maintaining one's FICO scores at optimal level at all times, not just when making a major credit application.

 

Many people are fond of saying "Finances > FICO". This is an example of "FICO = Finances"


That's actually 200 basis points. A 2 basis point increase would be to 19.51%.

 

Neither 19.49% or 21.49% is an interest rate that anyone should be paying. I'd sooner have a few low-APR no-rewards no-frills credit union cards than pay anything close to 19.49%.


1.  Thanks for the correction Smiley Happy Sorry about that.

 

2.  It's a card I always pay in full, and never pay interest on. 


So, the impact is minimal and you neglect the potential costs of maintaining an optimal Fico score (both in real money and in effort).   

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Amex APR increase due to FICO score decrease

My original post was not intended to be about me or my usage of a particular card.

 

It was intended as a data point to illustrate that one's current interest rates on existing accounts can be affected by a change in one's FICO scores.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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OmarGB9
Community Leader
Super Contributor

Re: Amex APR increase due to FICO score decrease


@SouthJamaica wrote:

My original post was not intended to be about me or my usage of a particular card.

 

It was intended as a data point to illustrate that one's current interest rates on existing accounts can be affected by a change in one's FICO scores.


This is the first I've heard of that. Also, it's Amex we're talking about, and they can be pretty strict so.


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babygirl1256
Senior Contributor

Re: Amex APR increase due to FICO score decrease

Wow . . . glad to know . . . thanks for posting that information. I'll make sure I keep my card utilizations down and my FICO score high. I've been doing well for the last year and keeping FICO above 800 except for EQ . . . but that score should improve once the last adverse $400.00 (paid) CO purges on 12/1/2022!!!

Starting FICO 8 Score in 06/2019: EQ-625, TU-649, EX-640
Current FICO 8 Score in 06/2021: EQ-796, TU-806, EX-812
Goal FICO 8 Score in 06/2022: EQ-825, TU-850, EX-850
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