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Anonymous
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Re: Amex Essentials coming to US?

With the Barclaycard Ring, the "reward" is that you get to carry a balance without spending a lot of money.

 

IMHO, an interest rate that low *is* the reward.

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Anonymous
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Re: Amex Essentials coming to US?


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

I don't want to get too far off topic here, so I'll just say a new AMEX card would be pretty exciting, as long as it has a few benefits not seen in the industry by their competitors. I like how AMEX offers a 6% cash back on groceries card, so lets see if they can bring this card out with something similar... Say something like 5% back at book stores (including Amazon) and 5% back on restaurant purchases (up to $3,000 per quarter, 1.5% after) and then 1.5% on all other purchases--I think that would be a card to catch a particular group of people's eyes.


I never get these sort of proposals, made in the absence of economic data indicating whether this is viable or not.   As I suggested to an earlier proposal of yours, if this is such a win, get funding and issue it yourself!    I mean, a 10% back on everything card would be great!   So would a 20% one.  And.....     But there are financial constraints that the banks operate under which we do not know.


5% cash back isn't unusual at all. Discover and Chase both have cards with 5% rotating categories, with caps of course. What I suggested had a cap of 5% up to $1,000 a month for both categories combined. There's also cards out there where the benefits can cost the bank $1,000's a year but the annual fee is only $450 a year---this card wouldn't have those kind of benefits. 

 

You're also forgetting AMEX charges many merchants a higher % per transaction and is their own bank... So I think they can afford to give out a card like the one I proposed. Add in a higher minimum APR, and this card could easily be given out by them... It's like saying AMEX can't afford to give out the BCP, PRG, or the Platinum, none of which are cost effective to them if the cardholder uses the card to the fullest potential.  

 

Sometimes you have to eat into some of your profit margins if you want to have an eye-popping product on the market. It's not like AMEX wouldn't have any other cards to bring in money, and the competition is heating up fast. 

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darwin_wins
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Re: Amex Essentials coming to US?


@Anonymous wrote:

Picture? 


@Anonymous wrote:
The Amex Essentials card looks like the old zync card did but isn't yet offered here. It just dropped in Canada after runs in the UK and Australia.

The main selling point is the low fixed interest rate. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether it'll drop here in the US? As well as open discussion on the card.

 


https://www.americanexpress.com/au/content/essential-credit-card/

 

Here re is the link to that card from Australia. Looks pretty cool, wouldn't mind if AmEx introduces old Zync card again. 

Message 23 of 41
UncleB
Credit Mentor

Re: Amex Essentials coming to US?


@darwin_wins wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Picture? 


@Anonymous wrote:
The Amex Essentials card looks like the old zync card did but isn't yet offered here. It just dropped in Canada after runs in the UK and Australia.

The main selling point is the low fixed interest rate. I'm wondering if anyone knows whether it'll drop here in the US? As well as open discussion on the card.

 


https://www.americanexpress.com/au/content/essential-credit-card/

 

Here re is the link to that card from Australia. Looks pretty cool, wouldn't mind if AmEx introduces old Zync card again. 


After reading the description, it seems really close to the Amex Everday card we have in the U.S. 

 

Of course there are some small differences (smartphone screen insurance, which is pretty cool) but it's not far off.  I can't see Amex offering the 'Essential' card here, though, since the ED card is so close to being the same thing.

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Anonymous
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Re: Amex Essentials coming to US?

There's been some mis information in this thread from some folx regarding the Amex Essentials card in Canada.  The offered interest rate there is 8.99%.

http://www.moneysense.ca/news/american-express-introduces-a-new-low-rate-credit-card/

Message 25 of 41
takeshi74
Senior Contributor

Re: Amex Essentials coming to US?


@Anonymous wrote:

Picture?


Link already provided but don't overlook Google Image Search:

https://www.google.com/search?q=amex+essential&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjZsfCFhffOAhWEsh4KHURAA6wQ_AUICCgB&biw=1680&bih=926

 

Message 26 of 41
kdm31091
Super Contributor

Re: Amex Essentials coming to US?


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

I don't want to get too far off topic here, so I'll just say a new AMEX card would be pretty exciting, as long as it has a few benefits not seen in the industry by their competitors. I like how AMEX offers a 6% cash back on groceries card, so lets see if they can bring this card out with something similar... Say something like 5% back at book stores (including Amazon) and 5% back on restaurant purchases (up to $3,000 per quarter, 1.5% after) and then 1.5% on all other purchases--I think that would be a card to catch a particular group of people's eyes.


I never get these sort of proposals, made in the absence of economic data indicating whether this is viable or not.   As I suggested to an earlier proposal of yours, if this is such a win, get funding and issue it yourself!    I mean, a 10% back on everything card would be great!   So would a 20% one.  And.....     But there are financial constraints that the banks operate under which we do not know.


5% cash back isn't unusual at all. Discover and Chase both have cards with 5% rotating categories, with caps of course. What I suggested had a cap of 5% up to $1,000 a month for both categories combined. There's also cards out there where the benefits can cost the bank $1,000's a year but the annual fee is only $450 a year---this card wouldn't have those kind of benefits. 

 

You're also forgetting AMEX charges many merchants a higher % per transaction and is their own bank... So I think they can afford to give out a card like the one I proposed. Add in a higher minimum APR, and this card could easily be given out by them... It's like saying AMEX can't afford to give out the BCP, PRG, or the Platinum, none of which are cost effective to them if the cardholder uses the card to the fullest potential.  

 

Sometimes you have to eat into some of your profit margins if you want to have an eye-popping product on the market. It's not like AMEX wouldn't have any other cards to bring in money, and the competition is heating up fast. 


The competition is heating up maybe (although most recent new cards have been very similar to one another), but not so much for 5% cards. Most 5% cards have gotten narrower/more restrictive over time or gone away completely. It seems doubtful Amex is going to come out with a 5% bookstore card. You have to remember that the "bookstore" Amazon thing is just a side effect, not really an intentional thing. None of the "bookstore" cards mention "works on Amazon!"; it just happens to.

 

I'd love to see a 5% dining card, but it seems banks don't favor dining much as a category. I think they feel most people spend more on groceries/gas than eating out and if you cut your budget you're going to cut dining before groceries in most cases. For whatever reason there aren't a lot of super compelling dining cards. Discover and Freedom do 5% dining one quarter at least, though of course there's no guarantee that will continue.

 

I think issuers feel that most consumers prefer flat rate structures, and few complications, in getting their rewards, which is why you see so many new flat rate cards. This means I don't think we will see a card with categories coming out soon. But, you never know, just seems that flat rate is the trend. Most consumers don't want to be bothered with remembering categories.

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Anonymous
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Re: Amex Essentials coming to US?

I can imagine the logistical nightmare it is for CSR's dealing with customers that aren't too savy and their use of different tiered reward structures.
Message 28 of 41
Callandra
Valued Contributor

Re: Amex Essentials coming to US?


@kdm31091 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

I don't want to get too far off topic here, so I'll just say a new AMEX card would be pretty exciting, as long as it has a few benefits not seen in the industry by their competitors. I like how AMEX offers a 6% cash back on groceries card, so lets see if they can bring this card out with something similar... Say something like 5% back at book stores (including Amazon) and 5% back on restaurant purchases (up to $3,000 per quarter, 1.5% after) and then 1.5% on all other purchases--I think that would be a card to catch a particular group of people's eyes.


I never get these sort of proposals, made in the absence of economic data indicating whether this is viable or not.   As I suggested to an earlier proposal of yours, if this is such a win, get funding and issue it yourself!    I mean, a 10% back on everything card would be great!   So would a 20% one.  And.....     But there are financial constraints that the banks operate under which we do not know.


5% cash back isn't unusual at all. Discover and Chase both have cards with 5% rotating categories, with caps of course. What I suggested had a cap of 5% up to $1,000 a month for both categories combined. There's also cards out there where the benefits can cost the bank $1,000's a year but the annual fee is only $450 a year---this card wouldn't have those kind of benefits. 

 

You're also forgetting AMEX charges many merchants a higher % per transaction and is their own bank... So I think they can afford to give out a card like the one I proposed. Add in a higher minimum APR, and this card could easily be given out by them... It's like saying AMEX can't afford to give out the BCP, PRG, or the Platinum, none of which are cost effective to them if the cardholder uses the card to the fullest potential.  

 

Sometimes you have to eat into some of your profit margins if you want to have an eye-popping product on the market. It's not like AMEX wouldn't have any other cards to bring in money, and the competition is heating up fast. 


The competition is heating up maybe (although most recent new cards have been very similar to one another), but not so much for 5% cards. Most 5% cards have gotten narrower/more restrictive over time or gone away completely. It seems doubtful Amex is going to come out with a 5% bookstore card. You have to remember that the "bookstore" Amazon thing is just a side effect, not really an intentional thing. None of the "bookstore" cards mention "works on Amazon!"; it just happens to.

 

I'd love to see a 5% dining card, but it seems banks don't favor dining much as a category. I think they feel most people spend more on groceries/gas than eating out and if you cut your budget you're going to cut dining before groceries in most cases. For whatever reason there aren't a lot of super compelling dining cards. Discover and Freedom do 5% dining one quarter at least, though of course there's no guarantee that will continue.

 

I think issuers feel that most consumers prefer flat rate structures, and few complications, in getting their rewards, which is why you see so many new flat rate cards. This means I don't think we will see a card with categories coming out soon. But, you never know, just seems that flat rate is the trend. Most consumers don't want to be bothered with remembering categories.


I kind of thought banks cut back on the dining category because it wound up costing them too much (why Cash+ made dining 2% only). People spend A LOT on eating out. I think those that eat out a lot probably wind up spending way more on that than on groceries. 

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Anonymous
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Re: Amex Essentials coming to US?


@Anonymous wrote:
That's a pretty cool card.. thanks for opening the discussion on it OP!

More selection and competition is always better. I hope it comes to the USA!

Me too!

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