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jrosenbaum
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Re: Application Fiasco


@FireMedic1 wrote:

@jrosenbaumPeople do this all the time. Apply then approved.Then.They didnt get what they wanted or expected more. They close it. But the new account resets your AoYA to 0 momths. And it drops your AAoA's. It adds to total accounts on the other end. But charge cards dont act like revolving accounts on a credit report. We always say. Keep it at least a year. Then shut it down. Open for a day and close the next day does affect your age metrics.


Got it. Thank you for your response I appreciate it!

Message 11 of 26
Jnbmom
Credit Mentor

Re: Application Fiasco

If you really don't want or need the card you can close . Since you just got the CAP one card that will change your AAoA anyway, so I don't think closing Amex would do any harm .

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Message 12 of 26
coldfusion
Credit Mentor

Re: Application Fiasco


@Jnbmom wrote:

If you really don't want or need the card you can close . Since you just got the CAP one card that will change your AAoA anyway, so I don't think closing Amex would do any harm .


It would probably be a while before AMEX would approve OP for an additional card, but I'd agree that otherwise there would at least be no meaningful harm.

 

They'd want to doublecheck to confirm whether or not they would still be on the hook for the 1st years $150 AF.

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Message 13 of 26
GZG
Senior Contributor

Re: Application Fiasco

@jrosenbaum 

 

do you have enough spend to comfortably meet the SUB without extra? even at .8c/point in cashback which you can get by just applying for their checking account (which also currently has a bonus) you get $320 for 40k points, well more than your $150 AF. 

 

you can also do cool travel stuff for way more than $320 in value if you go places and do things and want to learn how points work

 

the harm is already done being approved for the account, except on the off chance that getting them to refund the AF causes them never to report the account, but I doubt that's going to happen, right @coldfusion

 

I'd be more worried about making Amex not like me which they will not like you if you cancel, than the harm to my credit if I didn't want it

 

if you have the spend, earn the SUB, use the points or get cash back with a checking redemption to get $320 and cancel it after a year, after your second AF posts. 

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Message 14 of 26
SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Application Fiasco


@jrosenbaum wrote:

Hi all!

 

I just turned 30 this year and have been priding myself on trying to rebuild my credit after making a mockery of it during my 20s. (I only mention that because I'm proud of myself for finally getting myself out of my prior situation). Yesterday I decided to apply for the CapitalOne VentureX card, and I was approved for a $20K limit. A few hours later (and maybe a cocktail or two), I got trigger happy and applied for an AmEx blue card and a green charge card. I was approved for both (blue is $10K and no "limit" for the green). 

I understand that there's no concrete answer, but generally speaking, would it "hurt" my credit to decide to cancel the Green card?

 

If it helps, AmEx did not pull my credit for either of the cards. My approval notice said it was "based on my history with Amex". And even a day later, I've still only received one credit pull (which was from Cap1). 

Essentially, I would like to not have to pay the $150 fee. However, if my credit is going to suffer, I will suck it up and pay the fee and keep the card. Let me know what you think. 

(Again, I understand that nobody knows the exact answer but any advice is greatly appreciated)


1. It has nothing to do with your credit scores; closing the card won't help or hurt.

 

2. You can close the card, but you can't cancel the fee.  If you were able to close it and avoid the fee, you would probably have trouble with Amex down the road.

 

3. You should wait until a year passes, and if you still want to close it, close it then. 


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Message 15 of 26
SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Application Fiasco


@ptatohed wrote:

I personally don't see the value in the $150 AF Green card.  I have no idea what a MR Point is worth but they better be worth something good for $150/yr!  But, with that said, you must have applied for a reason?  Are you interested in MR points?  Can you use the LoungeBuddy or CLEAR credit?  If it was me, I think I'd keep it, earn the 40,000 MRPs intro bonus (I assume this is worth more than $150), keep it for a year, and then cancel next year to avoid the second AF.  Congrats on your credit comeback!    


For me, the MR's are worth just a little more than a penny, something like 1.2 cents each.  I know that some people have found more value in them, but I'm not one of those people.


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Message 16 of 26
DSTforlife
Regular Contributor

Re: Application Fiasco

If you travel, you can transfer your MR points to your airline loyalty account.  You can fly across the country for less than 40k points using delta skymiles...and the conversion is 1 for 1.  The airfare savings alone is worth over $150. Of course, it's only if you travel. 

I've never used MR points for anything other than air travel. 

Message 17 of 26
MikeyMagic
Frequent Contributor

Re: Application Fiasco


@ptatohed wrote:

I personally don't see the value in the $150 AF Green card.  I have no idea what a MR Point is worth but they better be worth something good for $150/yr!  But, with that said, you must have applied for a reason?  Are you interested in MR points?  Can you use the LoungeBuddy or CLEAR credit?  If it was me, I think I'd keep it, earn the 40,000 MRPs intro bonus (I assume this is worth more than $150), keep it for a year, and then cancel next year to avoid the second AF.  Congrats on your credit comeback!    


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Message 18 of 26
MikeyMagic
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Re: Application Fiasco


@jrosenbaum wrote:

Hi all!

 

I just turned 30 this year and have been priding myself on trying to rebuild my credit after making a mockery of it during my 20s. (I only mention that because I'm proud of myself for finally getting myself out of my prior situation). Yesterday I decided to apply for the CapitalOne VentureX card, and I was approved for a $20K limit. A few hours later (and maybe a cocktail or two), I got trigger happy and applied for an AmEx blue card and a green charge card. I was approved for both (blue is $10K and no "limit" for the green). 

I understand that there's no concrete answer, but generally speaking, would it "hurt" my credit to decide to cancel the Green card?

 

If it helps, AmEx did not pull my credit for either of the cards. My approval notice said it was "based on my history with Amex". And even a day later, I've still only received one credit pull (which was from Cap1). 

Essentially, I would like to not have to pay the $150 fee. However, if my credit is going to suffer, I will suck it up and pay the fee and keep the card. Let me know what you think. 

(Again, I understand that nobody knows the exact answer but any advice is greatly appreciated)


Seriously sir is this like a clickbait thread started by you? I feel like you came here to essentially brag about your 20k limit here, unlimited here, etc... And you title this a FIASCO? People post here that their credit is CURRENTLY ruined, BK's, charge offs, collections, denial after denial. Yet you are basically bragging about all these approvals with high limits yet calling paying a piddly $150 fee to you a FIASCO smh.

 

Seriously man get a clue and stop the nonsense here. 

Message 19 of 26
Anonymous
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Re: Application Fiasco


@MikeyMagic wrote:


Seriously sir is this like a clickbait thread started by you? I feel like you came here to essentially brag about your 20k limit here, unlimited here, etc... And you title this a FIASCO? People post here that their credit is CURRENTLY ruined, BK's, charge offs, collections, denial after denial. Yet you are basically bragging about all these approvals with high limits yet calling paying a piddly $150 fee to you a FIASCO smh.

 

Seriously man get a clue and stop the nonsense here. 


Don't think it is clickbait, just inappropriately worded (with perhaps a little boasting!).   There is a real question which could have been much more simply stated, basically "I went on a bit of a spree and applied for the Amex Green.  It got approved but now I realize I don't want it and want to avoid the $150 AF.   Will it hurt my credit in some way if I cancel?"

 

But this forum is full of posts extended with colour, hyperbole and success stories, so I certainly don't think the post was out of line, although I would have adjusted the title. 

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