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Application order/timing strategy?

Hello, new to the forum, I've occasionally lurked on threads here in the past year or so. My credit score is somewhere around 750 (will have to check it again soon), and I have been getting new cards and am planning to apply for several more, but with my most recent experience, I'm looking for some outside opinions on planning this.

 

Here's what I've gotten in the last 2 years:

 

Chase Freedom Unlimited (July 17)

Nusenda CU Platinum Cash Rewards (July 17)

Chase Ink Preferred (Nov 17)

Vantage West CU Connect Rewards (Dec 17)

Chase Sapphire Preferred (Feb 18)

Penfed CU Pathfinder (Jan 18 - applied after I put in for the CSP, but before it was approved, and was instantly approved on the phone with Penfed)

 

When I applied for the CSP, I immediately after put in for a Chase Amazon card. I was approved for the CSP, but was denied for the Amazon card. They told me I had too many accounts open with them recently/too many requests for credit - obviously it's not about inquiries, as I was approved for the CSP. I suspect I hit some sort of limit on how many credit accounts I can have with them, or I just opened too many cards recently (to my knowledge the Amazon card is unaffected by 5/24): I also have 2 freedoms for a total of 5 Chase cards including the Ink. But it could also be because I generally just opened too many recent accounts: they asked about the 2 non-Chase accounts I opened in 2017. So this has me a bit concerned about the next cards I'm going to apply for:

 

Citi AAdvantage Platinum (probably around late april, early may)

Citi Prestige (after I finish min spend on AA Plat - but if I can't get the 60k mile offer or if it's just safer to go for the Prestige first, I'd go for the Prestige first, especially if a solid sign up bonus pops up for it)

Ameriprise Amex Platinum (will apply for all 3 amex cards on the same day after hitting min spends for Citi, from what i understand it would generate just 1 pull for all 3 apps and Amex will let you apply for Charge cards liberally like that)

Ameriprise Amex Gold

Amex Hilton Honors (not sure how this will go - I read this dude was denied for an Amex Credit card cuz of too many recent acounts or something like that - although as long as I get the platinum, secondarily the gold, the Hilton card would basically be like a freebie)

Spirit Air MasterCard (through BoA. not sure if this one or the Discover it have any specific hang ups that might keep me from getting approved by this point, but I may get them at the same time as Amex cards or a bit later even, since the min spend on the Spirit card is only $500 and the It has no min spend)

Discover It

 

 I thought BoA, Discover, and Amex charge cards weren't too sensitive about inquiries and recent accounts, etc, but I don't want to go in blind on that just because I haven't read of a rule like 5/24.

 

I do generally have good credit, last I checked my score was around 780, I think it's a bit closer to 750 now, but I'm mostly asking about how this kind of activity is seen by the issuers and what I should expect of their rules and/or responses. Any advice is appreciated!

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AverageJoesCredit
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Re: Application order/timing strategy?

You need to space the Citi apps at least 8 days apart if i recall correctly.
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Gmood1
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Re: Application order/timing strategy?

Citi can be a little new accounts sensitive IME. I'd go at least 90 days with no apps before hitting them. Amex doesn't give a hoot if your profile is strong. You seem to have one.
BofA can go either way really. They don't seem especially sensitive either to new accounts.
Chase can also be new accounts sensitive, which you've discovered.
It use to be no more than two Chase cards in 30 days. That may have changed, I have no idea.
You've had a great run! Very nice line up you have there. Good luck in which ever way you go.
Oh I'd hit Amex for maybe two at one time. The others can come by way of SPs later.
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Anonymous
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Re: Application order/timing strategy?

thanks for the feedback, guys.

 

hm, so should i put in for the BoA  and Discover cards before the Amex cards? I figured the Spirit MasterCard and Discover It would be the easiest ones to get, but  if Amex is super chill about having a bunch of new accounts and BoA and Discover are kind of a dice roll, maybe I should go for them first.


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Citi can be a little new accounts sensitive IME. I'd go at least 90 days with no apps before hitting them. Amex doesn't give a hoot if your profile is strong. You seem to have one.
BofA can go either way really. They don't seem especially sensitive either to new accounts.
Chase can also be new accounts sensitive, which you've discovered.
It use to be no more than two Chase cards in 30 days. That may have changed, I have no idea.
You've had a great run! Very nice line up you have there. Good luck in which ever way you go.
Oh I'd hit Amex for maybe two at one time. The others can come by way of SPs later.

 

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Gmood1
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Re: Application order/timing strategy?

Discover can be had on a SP. I'd recommend doing it first. Use the Discover prequal site to apply.
Go after BofA second and Amex third.
Amex and BofA will pull EX IME.
Discover will SP EQ and possibly EX.
If you get the Discover first on a SP. It won't affect the other two approvals at all. Since they won't see it.
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Anonymous
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Re: Application order/timing strategy?

Hm nice - so should I go for the discover before the Citi cards then? Like, now? When you say they won't see it, you mean the inquiry right? They'll still see the new card opened etc? Will Citi, amex and BoA not be sensitive to the new card itself?

Will definitely look into this - is there any bonus with the prequalify site? I was planning to get the It on amazon.com where you get a $75 bonus for making a purchase on Amazon, which is of course doubled by the year 1 match.

At first I didn't register what you meant by SP because I didn't know you could get a CC without a hard pull. In your previous post, were you also suggesting that the BoA card might be had for a SP?
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HeavenOhio
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Re: Application order/timing strategy?

@f4phantom2500, I like your game plan. You've built in a period of gardening (not applying for anything) before starting your new round of apps. And you're keeping sign-up bonuses in mind. We frequently see people grab a bunch of new cards, then they find themselves unable to spend the money to meet the bonuses.

 

As mentioned, Citi is sensitive to new accounts. They're also sensitive to inquiries. I wish I could find the recent post here where a member relayed information from a Citi recon rep stating how many recent inquiries would likely result in a denial. But absent that, I think waiting three months since your most recent app would likely have you OK in that area.

 

If you'd like, you can grab all three FICO8s along with all three reports by signing up for the $1 trial at CreditCheck Total, then canceling before the trial has ended. There are people here who do that frequently.

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Gmood1
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Re: Application order/timing strategy?

Yes... they will be if you allow it to report before apping for others.
Discover won't be a SP going through Amazon.
Citi, I'd wait on that one. You have a lot of new accounts. If you're successful with Discover, BofA and Amex. I'd skip Citi. Give it 180 days before touching them.
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Anonymous
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Re: Application order/timing strategy?

First, thank you guys, I appreciate the positive reactions and feedback to my strategy Smiley Happy.


@HeavenOhio I am aware of Citi's 6/6 rule which is 6 hard pulls in the last 6 months. But there could be more to it than that that's not widely known. Thanks for the tip on the 3 ficos for $1, I'll keep it in mind!

@gmood Hm so youd actually suggest skipping Citi for later cuz they're so sensitive. I was actually thinking it would be better to do them before the other cards for that very reason, but perhaps my strategy is too aggressive? Honestly, Citi is kinda the least critical one anyway: no sign up bonus on the prestige now, and while the AAdvantage card does have a 60k bonus rn, it seems to have been around a good bit by now, AA miles seem kinda limited now anyway so not a huge loss if I only get the 30k bonus, and the initial reason to get the card is to downgrade to dividend in year 2 - it's more of a "why not sounds pretty sweet" card than one that's really critical to my overall strategy - the Citi dividend is decidedly one of the less useful 5% cards with its "meh" categories.

Min spend wise, I have til late April to spend $4.5k more right now, and wouldnt apply for anything with a min spend til I'm done with this, so it won't be for at least 2 maybe 3 more months anyway. I should be at 5 inquiries in the last 6 months now, and come June, it should be 3 - well within Citi's 6/6 rule. Of course if the prestige has no sign up bonus still idk - and now knowing Citi is sensitive about all this, I'm thinking maybe I should apply for the prestige before the AAdvantage regardless, since the prestige is a more critical card. Maybe I should save the AA card for the end, after the other cards.
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bondsandloan
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Re: Application order/timing strategy?

I think others can advise on the app strate better. 

 

But I would not get the Prestige when there is no sign up bonus. If you don't mind the $450 AF, the CSR is far superior unless you have a lot of 4 night stays in the year. 

 

I calculated that we would have 2 4 night stays in 2018, but we still decided to cancel/ product change Prestige. Will be getting the CSR in later half of the yr.

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