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lonelyisland
Frequent Contributor

Re: Apprehensive to ask for Amex CLI


@NoNonsense wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

 So, it MAY be that if you ask for 3x at a certain level, you will get a 4506-T, which you wouldn't have if you had asked for 1.5x.   Or you get rejected with no counter offer if you ask for 3x whereas a 1.5 would have been granted.    Or not.   But statemnets like "ALWAYS counter" are just wrong.


 

Yep, I have a very similar suspicion.  It's very easy for a Third Party to yell, "go for it" "What do you have to lose?"  Well, certainly the third party has nothing to lose.  But, the OP ends up an involuntary subject of a credit experiment.  

 

Maybe it is because I have a distaste for over-blown CLs, which many others in MyFIico are rather addicted to, but I like to take CLI slow and to a point.  I don't NEED the 25k Amex limit right now, frankly, I don't need the 18k initial limit they gave me, but I can live with that I guess.  The thing is, like in many other areas of life, some like to move slowly, gradually, enjoying the ride, while others want it all over before it starts...


I think there's some great advice in here, but to me, it came off somewhat condescending, if trying to help people, a different delivery could be quite powerful. 

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Apprehensive to ask for Amex CLI

It's a SP, so nothing ventured, nothing gained, right? I'd say go for it.

Message 22 of 37
wacdenney
Valued Contributor

Re: Apprehensive to ask for Amex CLI


@TeeGee wrote:

@wacdenney wrote:

 

My BCE started at 2k and went to 6k after my 31st day.  The 3X boost has been a major blessing as it put me in a different range of limits.  At the time I was granted the 3X from AMEX, most of my limits were in the 2k range, now most of the newer ones at least are starting in the 5k range.  I owe that entirely to AMEX.  They have been a MAJOR help in my journey and I will definately be going for 18k in October.  Even if they countered with 8 or 9 I would be thrilled!!


I'm confused....I thought it was the 61st day, not the 31st day?


Correct, my bad.  I'm not sure what I was thinking there.  typo or brain fart one or the other.

Message 23 of 37
PrimeRate
Frequent Contributor

Re: Apprehensive to ask for Amex CLI

As others have said, it's an SP either way. You have nothing to lose. If they balk at 24k, they will give you a counter offer. 

 

Keep us posted!

☮ & ❤
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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Apprehensive to ask for Amex CLI


@PrimeRate wrote:

As others have said, it's an SP either way. You have nothing to lose. If they balk at 24k, they will give you a counter offer. 

 

Keep us posted!


Or, as I said, you may not get a counter offer and you may have something to lose.  We don't know.

Message 25 of 37
wacdenney
Valued Contributor

Re: Apprehensive to ask for Amex CLI


@Anonymous wrote:

@Creditaddict wrote:

@chrisw1968uk wrote:

I guess im just afraid of a HP in the event of a decline - Approvals are SP's and Denials are HP's right? I shouldnt really be worried because i do not have high HP's and don't plan on apping for anything else soon


you are confusing your things with amex.

ONCE you have an amex ALL CLI are ALWAYS SP rather they are approved or denied and the system will ALWAYS counter if you do not ask for more than 3x and you qualify for something.


There have been cases here (and indeed this happened to my daugher earlier this year) where there is no counter.   I think some of this advice, while it may be true, may also be simplistic.    The assumption is that asking 1.5X, 2X or 3X (for example) always leads to the same outcome, via counter.   We don't know if that is true (and it's very hard to test!).

 

So, it MAY be that if you ask for 3x at a certain level, you will get a 4506-T, which you wouldn't have if you had asked for 1.5x.   Or you get rejected with no counter offer if you ask for 3x whereas a 1.5 would have been granted.    Or not.   But statemnets like "ALWAYS counter" are just wrong.


The point is that it doesn't hurt anything to ask and you have no idea what you would be approved for if you don't ask.  No, there are no absolutes obviously.  The likely outcomes are  1.) they approve the full 3X CLI   2.) they counter  3.) they deny

 

Sure, I suppose it's possible they could request documentation at 3X especially if 3X puts you over 25k.  I would certainly be mindful of exceeding that threshold.  It is even totally within their right to request documentation if you do not exceed 25k.  In which case you can simply provide it or not.  If you do not want to provide documentation you would likely be denied. 

And...  Sure, assuming 1.5X and 3X both fall below the 25k threshold, maybe if you had only asked for 1.5X maybe they wouldn't have asked for documentation.  At this point, however, you are engaging in rank speculation not supported by the majority of available evidence.  You can beat yourself to death with what ifs and I assume that's what's happening here or you can request the 3X and see what happens. 

 

There's really nothing to be afraid of.  It's not a scary experiment.  There is plenty enough reference data available to predict likely outcomes.

 

If you have no desire to maximize your available credit then there's nothing wrong with that at all, but if you have decided to request the CLI, there's no good reason that I can think of not to request the full amount  Having the limit available doesn't mean you have to use it.

Message 26 of 37
PrimeRate
Frequent Contributor

Re: Apprehensive to ask for Amex CLI


@Anonymous wrote:

@PrimeRate wrote:

As others have said, it's an SP either way. You have nothing to lose. If they balk at 24k, they will give you a counter offer. 

 

Keep us posted!


Or, as I said, you may not get a counter offer and you may have something to lose.  We don't know.


LTL, I wasn't belittling your post. I've seen(both here and at other forums) counter offers or full 3x happen for everyone who had the income to back the request(some who didn't!) and low util. The OP has the low util. As long as his income supports the request(in case of FR), the CLI should be his to claim. There is no pull here, so I stand by my 'nothing to lose' statement - even if he was to get flat out denied.

☮ & ❤
Message 27 of 37
Creditaddict
Legendary Contributor

Re: Apprehensive to ask for Amex CLI

Just happened to be with a friend last night and saw her swipe an Amex Sky and I said when was the last time you asked for an increase (her response was never)

later I asked her to log in and walk her through the steps of CLI

Her credit line was $6,800 so she requested $20,400 and she got not counter... The entire thing was instantly approved!

 

I would say fine if you are nervous about going over $25k or $30k drop your 3x request down than but if you are only thinking about asking for $2k or $4k which isn't even 1x your current limit I think you are wasting what amex designed for it's customers

Message 28 of 37
NoNonsense
Established Member

Re: Apprehensive to ask for Amex CLI


@Creditaddict wrote:

I would say fine if you are nervous about going over $25k or $30k drop your 3x request down than but if you are only thinking about asking for $2k or $4k which isn't even 1x your current limit I think you are wasting what amex designed for it's customers


The way you word it, you make it sound like we would be doing Amex a favor by asking for the full 3x!...you are something else... LOL!

Message 29 of 37
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Apprehensive to ask for Amex CLI

I didn't think I would get any kind of increase when I tried but they countered and offered me 2k more which surprised me.
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