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@NRB525 wrote:EX, EQ, TU, and ... what is your fourth credit bureau?
According to banks.com, the fourth major one is Innovis. To me personally, Sage Stream seemed substantial because of Synchrony being pretty widespread and using them. Of course, Synchrony can be avoided by people with very good credit, but people who are rebuilding credit seem to get their store cards and then their credit cards.
It actually might be worth getting your Sage Stream credit report. It's bizarre and looks for things that don't appear on the others -- like accounts with utility companies and the like.
I was denied credit cards a few years ago from US Bank because these guys reported too many utility companies -- never mind that I moved around to 3 different states for my employer (and had properly terminated leases). By their cockeyed metrics, that fact alone severely dinged their version of a "credit score." They should really be outlawed (along with this others....) or at the very least, forced to comply with the truth in lending laws which require disclosure by lenders when a CRA hard-pulls a consumer report, resulting in denial. Somehow, they manage to avoid doing this. They must be classified in a manner which allows evasion of this requirement.
Anyhow, you can find them on the web, either under Innovis or Sage Stream (forgot which is their current incarnation) and obtain your file. You can also ask them to lock your report; that would only affect the (hopefully) small number of lenders that surreptitiously use Sage Stream. I suspect Marcus/Goldman Sachs uses them, as I was denied credit several times, with the explanation that my TU account was locked -- it wasn't but Sage Stream's was.
@FinStar wrote:
@MrDisco99 wrote:Chase and Amex business cards don't report to personal credit reports... unless there's delinquency.
OP was asking about personal cards in their op.
Yep... my bad.























Don't get me revved up about SageStream. They dinged me because my Atlanta area code cell phone didn't match my Florida home address. They suck.
@practical1 wrote:It actually might be worth getting your Sage Stream credit report. It's bizarre and looks for things that don't appear on the others -- like accounts with utility companies and the like.
I was denied credit cards a few years ago from US Bank because these guys reported too many utility companies -- never mind that I moved around to 3 different states for my employer (and had properly terminated leases). By their cockeyed metrics, that fact alone severely dinged their version of a "credit score." They should really be outlawed (along with this others....) or at the very least, forced to comply with the truth in lending laws which require disclosure by lenders when a CRA hard-pulls a consumer report, resulting in denial. Somehow, they manage to avoid doing this. They must be classified in a manner which allows evasion of this requirement.
Anyhow, you can find them on the web, either under Innovis or Sage Stream (forgot which is their current incarnation) and obtain your file. You can also ask them to lock your report; that would only affect the (hopefully) small number of lenders that surreptitiously use Sage Stream. I suspect Marcus/Goldman Sachs uses them, as I was denied credit several times, with the explanation that my TU account was locked -- it wasn't but Sage Stream's was.
Folks, let's not stray from the original discussion. The topic isn't about Innovis, SageStream or any other third party reporting agencies.
The topic of discussion is... Are there cards that don't report?
If you want to discuss items related to third party reporting agencies, there are active threads in the General Credit Topics section. Thank You.