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Bad Service!!! Citi begin to charge AF on my Citi Credit Card.

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Anonymous
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Re: Bad Service!!! Citi begin to charge AF on my Citi Credit Card.

I completely agree with Watchman.

 

When you apply for a credit card, you are agreeing to any CIT. As Watchmann stated, these banks are here for business, not to help out the consumers. If they're not profiting from accounts that are getting little to no use, then it would only make sense for them to charge an AF. That way, they can cover the cost of maintaining the account and make a little bit of profit. After all, they need to make-up for the credit card and mortgage losses. Basically, it's a take it or leave it situation.

Message Edited by YoungEntrepeneur on 02-19-2010 10:57 AM
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Anonymous
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Re: Bad Service!!! Citi begin to charge AF on my Citi Credit Card.

You talk like you worked for CITI, lol.

 

I'm a company ceo and I can tell you that what they are doing is really bad for their business. Also, please dont ask me what company I worked for. I would like to remain anonymous.

 

Closing customers account will only be bad for them because they will completely CUT OFF the relationship between their customers. This really offset or put in reverse all their advertising efforts. That one customer can spread the BAD NEWS to hundreds of other potential customers. Look at what Circuit City have done. They tried to save money and ended up going bankrupt because the ceo DOES NOT have any clue.

 

Our company have been in business over 20 years and each year there is positive revenue. You want to know why? Because we treat our customers like gold. Having our customer service spending 2 hours talking to a customer that doesn't really do any business with us result in a lost. That is because we have to pay that customer service 2 hours worth of salary.

 

For the company to stand out, it doesn't matter whether or not you make money out of each customer. It's the overall image you gave them that counts.

 

If CITI continues to run their business this way, I can almost guarantee you none of their customers will be happy. NOT to mention their investors. Say bye bye, citi.

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Anonymous
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Re: Bad Service!!! Citi begin to charge AF on my Citi Credit Card.

 

Not to mention that they cannot forecast the future of any one customer.

 

Can CITI predict that this credit card holder is likely to do a new mortgage finance or refinance with them in the future? I can almost guarantee if Citi decides to close the customer account, that customer will most likely NOT work with Citi in the future for any loans, whether an auto or mortgage loan.

 

If the relationship is CUT OFF between the bank and the client, it will only result in a lost for citi.

 

 

 

There was this one time where Bank of America decides to change the terms on us. Guess what? We didn't need their service. There are hundreds of banks out there fighting to get our business. We completely cut off with BoA and moved our entire company asset to SunTrust. If SunTrust decides to play games with us, we can move somewhere else. If the company needs business, DO NOT force their customers to do what they don't like.


 

Message Edited by vankenn on 02-19-2010 11:30 AM
Message Edited by vankenn on 02-19-2010 11:37 AM
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Anonymous
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Re: Bad Service!!! Citi begin to charge AF on my Citi Credit Card.

I got the letter, and called to cancel the card. They waived the fee without my asking and I agreed to keep it open. I know I spent no more than 1K on this card in the past year. I'd spend 2,500 per year  with the card if I could, but I just don't have the need to. I'm not a big spender, and I live modestly. If all creditors start charging an annual fee, I will probably only carry 1-2 cards tops. Credit is just not a neccesity for me. YMMV as always
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Anonymous
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Re: Bad Service!!! Citi begin to charge AF on my Citi Credit Card.


@Anonymous wrote:

You talk like you worked for CITI, lol.

 

I'm a company ceo and I can tell you that what they are doing is really bad for their business. Also, please dont ask me what company I worked for. I would like to remain anonymous.

 

Closing customers account will only be bad for them because they will completely CUT OFF the relationship between their customers. This really offset or put in reverse all their advertising efforts. That one customer can spread the BAD NEWS to hundreds of other potential customers. Look at what Circuit City have done. They tried to save money and ended up going bankrupt because the ceo DOES NOT have any clue.

 

Our company have been in business over 20 years and each year there is positive revenue. You want to know why? Because we treat our customers like gold. Having our customer service spending 2 hours talking to a customer that doesn't really do any business with us result in a lost. That is because we have to pay that customer service 2 hours worth of salary.

 

For the company to stand out, it doesn't matter whether or not you make money out of each customer. It's the overall image you gave them that counts.

 

If CITI continues to run their business this way, I can almost guarantee you none of their customers will be happy. NOT to mention their investors. Say bye bye, citi.


 

Never worked for citi... but I am a customer of theirs, begrudgingly.  Once I have repaid them, I will no longer be a customer.  This is a business decision on my end, because I don't like the way they do business and how they have treated me as a customer.  That is how the business world works, and as a CEO I expect that you understand that.

 

You made a great point about paying customer service to stay on the phone with customers being a waste.  If you are spending two hours on the phone with their customer service reps, why would they want you as a customer unless you made it worth their while by providing them with a profit?  Hopefully, as a CEO, you can also relate that to maintaining not only a huge customer service base to service 200 MILLION accounts, but also the infrastructure necessary to provide security/fraud, underwriting, advertising, management, sales, and materials necessary to service those customer accounts.

If, at any time, a customer COSTS you more money than they provide, it would be stupid of you to continue servicing that account for a loss.

 

In your limited scope with relatively few customers (compared to a major bank), you may see an advantage to having an image that you care about your customers.  That is how many Credit Unions are currently outgrowing larger national/multi-national banks.  However, if you had a MILLION customers costing you money everyday to service, and they provide no income in return, I think you would be smart enough as an anonymous CEO to know that you need to drop those customers, or find a way of at least breaking even on them.

 

I don't expect the gas station to give me free gas just to make them look good.. do you?

 

As for how Citi runs its business... They seem to be doing okay for the last 198 years, with assets approaching $2,000,000,000,000.  When you are CEO of a company with similar success and size, the world will take your "guarantees" about the future of their business more seriously.

 

 

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@Anonymous wrote:

 

 

There was this one time where Bank of America decides to change the terms on us. Guess what? We didn't need their service. There are hundreds of banks out there fighting to get our business. We completely cut off with BoA and moved our entire company asset to SunTrust. If SunTrust decides to play games with us, we can move somewhere else. If the company needs business, DO NOT force their customers to do what they don't like.

 

Message Edited by vankenn on 02-19-2010 11:30 AM


Bank of America certainly feels the loss of your business and needs to learn how to create better revenue at your behest... 

 

Stock Price History Beta: 2.6 52-Week Change: 304.07% S&P500 52-Week Change: 42.08%

 

 

Also, the 99% of Fortune 500 companies and 83% of Fortune Global 500 companies that use them are dumb.  Fight the power!

 

(Statistics from Wikipedia and Yahoo Finance, though 74.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot) 

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jj10939
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Re: Bad Service!!! Citi begin to charge AF on my Citi Credit Card.

First off, I love the letter Smiley Very Happy to Citi.  I personally like my Citi Diamond Rewards card, but if they charged an annual fee, I would probably close my account. I converted to the Diamond Rewards from my Student Platinum Select Dividend card and so far have not received an increase in APR as others have stated.  (knock on wood)

 

As to what watchman was saying about banks needing to recover from mortages, etc.  It was the banks decision to issue mortgages to people with bad credit when the housing market was strong and like all business decisions there are either positive or negative conseqences for the decision and the company needs to be ready.  We as consumers should not be punished for the stupid decision the banks made, period.

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Anonymous
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Re: Bad Service!!! Citi begin to charge AF on my Citi Credit Card.


@jj10939 wrote:

 

As to what watchman was saying about banks needing to recover from mortages, etc.  It was the banks decision to issue mortgages to people with bad credit when the housing market was strong and like all business decisions there are either positive or negative conseqences for the decision and the company needs to be ready.  We as consumers should not be punished for the stupid decision the banks made, period.


JJ, how exactly are you being punished, again?  I haven't been able to follow this logic, yet.

 

If I understand correctly, Person A voluntarily requests to enter into a business relationship with Bank B.  Bank B presents terms for the relationship, based on the fact that Person A wants to borrow money from Bank B (out of convenience or necessity), and Bank B has the means to provide the requested credit.  Bank B is a business, answering to owners and shareholders, and established with the intent to profit from its efforts.  When a mutual agreement reached between A and B, both parties get what they want.  If at any time, A or B is no longer benefitting from the relationship, both or either has the ability and right to discontinue the relationship with no fees or penalties.

 

How does this relationship lend itself in any way to punishment?  Walk away.

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Anonymous
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Stock price was downhill in '08 for most businesses, the climb in '09 just rarely make it back to where they started. It does NOT mean they make money.

 

As for $2t asset, these are money from businesses and individuals, NOT citi money. Look at their stock price today. A mere $3.40 compared to almost $55 a couple of years ago. CITI is having big big loses. If they continue their business this way, they will bankrupt for sure.

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Anonymous
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Re: Bad Service!!! Citi begin to charge AF on my Citi Credit Card.


@Anonymous wrote:
I got the letter, and called to cancel the card. They waived the fee without my asking and I agreed to keep it open. I know I spent no more than 1K on this card in the past year. I'd spend 2,500 per year  with the card if I could, but I just don't have the need to. I'm not a big spender, and I live modestly. If all creditors start charging an annual fee, I will probably only carry 1-2 cards tops. Credit is just not a neccesity for me. YMMV as always

Great!!  Good for you!   I am planning to call them by end of March anyway, will see what they say to me.  I am like you, I don't spend that much of money.

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