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CSP almost 1 year old - worth the AF?

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Anonymous
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CSP almost 1 year old - worth the AF?

Hi. My card is ready for its first AF and I am wondering if I should downgrade. It is my only real travel card of my 7 and I used it extensively for 4 trips last year. I eat out frequently and use it but I have discover and nfcu cash rewards that have no fee. I received the bonus last year and more than obtained additional points to offset the fee. I plan more travel this year. My only other fee card is a $55 Amex senior gold card that has 24 years of backdated history and occasional good offers. My card apping is done indefinitely-last one was in June 2015 for a low limit high interest discover that has grown. I also have an old freedom with a small line of $1200. CSP is 8k.

Opinions? Thanks.
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manyquestions
Established Contributor

Re: CSP almost 1 year old - worth the AF?

It wasn't worth it for me, but you probably want to calculate out your expected spend and see if using the CSP vs. your other cards will give you more benefit than the annual fee amount.

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Anonymous
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Re: CSP almost 1 year old - worth the AF?

You will have to crunch some numbers. Does the AF outweigh the cost of the rewards you are earning. Can you do better on another card, based on your spending habits. Very subjective as only you can make that determination.

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Mattopotamus
Frequent Contributor

Re: CSP almost 1 year old - worth the AF?

Also remember that if you book travel through ultimate rewards there is a 20% discount. That alone can cover the AF with just a couple of trips.
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bch238
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Re: CSP almost 1 year old - worth the AF?

What other have said, depends on what your spending habits are.  Do you eat out a lot?  Do you travel a lot?  Lots of useful point transfer partners, Southwest among them.  Chase c/s is the best there is, IMO.  You call, a human being answers and knows who you are.  Citi has recently become a close second.  Amex has slid to trash level in the past two years with uninformed and disinformative reps.

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takeshi74
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Re: CSP almost 1 year old - worth the AF?

You can't poll to determine if something is worth it to you.  Worth is always highly subjective, regardless of topic.  My CSP is worth it to me but that doesn't mean anything to you unless your spend, redemptions, etc are similar enough to my own.

 

For any rewards card you should be crunching the numbers for your spend.  For rewards cards like the CSP you also need to consider how the redemption methods you're using are impacting your rewards value.  If you cannot or will not perform this sort of analysis, cash back cards are much easier since it's just a matter of spend * cash back rate.

 


@Mattopotamus wrote:
Also remember that if you book travel through ultimate rewards there is a 20% discount. That alone can cover the AF with just a couple of trips.

Carefully compare.  Better value is generally attained by transferring but it really depends on the specifics.

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jawbrkr
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Re: CSP almost 1 year old - worth the AF?


@takeshi74 wrote:

You can't poll to determine if something is worth it to you.  Worth is always highly subjective, regardless of topic.  My CSP is worth it to me but that doesn't mean anything to you unless your spend, redemptions, etc are similar enough to my own.

 

For any rewards card you should be crunching the numbers for your spend.  For rewards cards like the CSP you also need to consider how the redemption methods you're using are impacting your rewards value.  If you cannot or will not perform this sort of analysis, cash back cards are much easier since it's just a matter of spend * cash back rate.

 


@Mattopotamus wrote:
Also remember that if you book travel through ultimate rewards there is a 20% discount. That alone can cover the AF with just a couple of trips.

Carefully compare.  Better value is generally attained by transferring but it really depends on the specifics.


I have heard in the past people say there us a no AF version of the CSP that one can downgrade to. How true is this? Anyone know? I have to consider whether i want to keep my CSP and pay the annual fee or downgrade to the regular CS. If they do in fact allow a downgrade to that, I might consider it. I use the CSP as my main card and spend mostly on it but my spend at the moment is definitely not enough to warrant paying Chase $95 every year. 



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Anonymous
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Re: CSP almost 1 year old - worth the AF?

you can downgrade the chase sapphire preferred to a sapphire. You'll lose out on the 20% discount when using points on travel. The no FTF. The 1:1 point transfer for travel programs.

I looked at a flight on ultimate rewards recently and it's the same on the site as it is on there but with UR I got 20% off using the points--it's a domestic trip so I opted to use my miles on delta instead (have a lot) and it was 35,000 miles when the face value of the tickets were around 300$

So you can see it's a bit helpful, if you really look and wait you can get even better deals, which is why I opt not to use it just yet--I have a colleague who booked tickets to HK for free basically with his points. The deal was pretty good, better than if he paid cash with the carrier direct.

Is it worth it to me? Better then Amazon prime.

Is it worth it to you? You'll have to do the deciding Smiley Wink
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CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: CSP almost 1 year old - worth the AF?

Don't forget about primary renter insurance coverage a benefit that is overlooked on this card alot which can pay the AF there alone

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red259
Super Contributor

Re: CSP almost 1 year old - worth the AF?


@CreditCuriousity wrote:

Don't forget about primary renter insurance coverage a benefit that is overlooked on this card alot which can pay the AF there alone


This is worth it to some people but to people who do not have a car it doesn't make a difference. To OP whether or not the card is worthwhile depends on your spending habits and how you value the benefits. Since I have the ink card I didn't need to keep my CSP so I downgraded to a CS which has no AF but allows me to still get the dining bonus and I use the card quite a bit. If I did not have the ink card then I would have paid the AF on the CSP, because I want the ability to transfer to chase travel partners and I tend to earn a decent amount of them through my various spend with Chase. If you are not earning enough Chase URs for worthwhile redemptions with Chase (or you are not interested in redeeming with a Chase travel partner) then the is likely not worth it after the first year. If you have upcoming travel it is nice have a no FTF card and the CSP gives extra points for travel. On a side note I just learned today that visa charges an extra percentage point on the foreign coversion rate vs what mastercard/amex charge. So for visa you pay an extra cent for every dollar spent. Its a small increase but can add up if you are spending significant amounts overseas. 

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