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jason0618
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Carrying balance on 0% or not?

I never carry balances on my cards, but I just was approved without applying for overstock.com on a purchase I was making anyway.
It offered me 0% for 12 months. Is there any reason to take advantage of that? I planned to just out the purchase on my discover and just pay it off as normal, but if there is any benefit in letting this carry a balance for 12 months, that's fine. Otherwise I'll just pay if off before the statement cuts and attempt a CLI
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kdm31091
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Re: Carrying balance on 0% or not?

There's no fee or anything but I also don't think you should carry a balance just to carry a balance. If anything happens later and you cannot pay it off, then you'll be stuck paying interest.

Don't finance things that you don't need to finance.
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Anonymous
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Re: Carrying balance on 0% or not?

If you can pay it off I say just do so.  I financed something once that I had no reason to finance... some furniture that I had the cash to pay for right at the time but the salesman somehow talked me into 0% for 18 months or something.  Long story short I somehow short paid the final payment by $2.93 and received a late payment on my credit report that I didn't realize.  I've been fighting for about a year to get it removed, which I'm very close to BTW, but it still knocked my scores down probably 50 points on average for about 2 years now.

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NRB525
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Re: Carrying balance on 0% or not?

The reason for taking advantage of the 0% APR would be to get some balance amounts showing on your historical credit report, with no cost in interest. You should pay it off in a couple of months, but I would not pay it off immediately.

 

The potential issue with never showing any balances except on one card with a very small amount is that over the long run, your credit report does not show that you actually ever borrowed anything. I subscribe to a school of thought which thinks that the bank algorithms check back on your "reported balance" history to get an indication of what kind of borrowing you can handle. Some banks would look at a low historical borrowing pattern, and if you start to show balances all of a sudden, their algorithms would throw up red flags and potentially take AA.

 

The term that has been used, to describe showing balances just to put them on your historical report, is "softening up the banks". Getting them comfortable with seeing balances on your report.

 

There is no way for me to prove this, except from the anectdotes by other members who think they are working on their credit OK by paying everything off, until they start showing a couple thousand in balances and Barclays or Chase or AMEX calls them up to see what is what. Or CLD without notice at all.

 

(I also would only start one thread on this topic Smiley Wink Congrats on the SCT )

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SouthJamaica
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Re: Carrying balance on 0% or not?


@Anonymous wrote:

If you can pay it off I say just do so.  I financed something once that I had no reason to finance... some furniture that I had the cash to pay for right at the time but the salesman somehow talked me into 0% for 18 months or something.  Long story short I somehow short paid the final payment by $2.93 and received a late payment on my credit report that I didn't realize.  I've been fighting for about a year to get it removed, which I'm very close to BTW, but it still knocked my scores down probably 50 points on average for about 2 years now.


+1


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newhis
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Re: Carrying balance on 0% or not?


@NRB525 wrote:

The reason for taking advantage of the 0% APR would be to get some balance amounts showing on your historical credit report, with no cost in interest. You should pay it off in a couple of months, but I would not pay it off immediately.

 

The potential issue with never showing any balances except on one card with a very small amount is that over the long run, your credit report does not show that you actually ever borrowed anything. I subscribe to a school of thought which thinks that the bank algorithms check back on your "reported balance" history to get an indication of what kind of borrowing you can handle. Some banks would look at a low historical borrowing pattern, and if you start to show balances all of a sudden, their algorithms would throw up red flags and potentially take AA.

 

The term that has been used, to describe showing balances just to put them on your historical report, is "softening up the banks". Getting them comfortable with seeing balances on your report.

 

There is no way for me to prove this, except from the anectdotes by other members who think they are working on their credit OK by paying everything off, until they start showing a couple thousand in balances and Barclays or Chase or AMEX calls them up to see what is what. Or CLD without notice at all.

 

(I also would only start one thread on this topic Smiley Wink Congrats on the SCT )


But the reports have a 'high balance' entry. Even if you pay your card down and report $0 every month, they will report the highest balance ever with the card, right?

 

I think a change in pattern (buying, paying, balance) will lead to red flags.

I will not use the 0% if I always report $0 on my cards but 1. Or at least not over 40% the limit.

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Carrying balance on 0% or not?


@jason0618 wrote:
I never carry balances on my cards, but I just was approved without applying for overstock.com on a purchase I was making anyway.
It offered me 0% for 12 months. Is there any reason to take advantage of that? I planned to just out the purchase on my discover and just pay it off as normal, but if there is any benefit in letting this carry a balance for 12 months, that's fine. Otherwise I'll just pay if off before the statement cuts and attempt a CLI

From a pure financial perspective (i.e. not having to conjecture about how banks may or may not make lending decisions) the time to make use of any financing is when you can do something more profitable with the money.    So, if you have something that will (almost certainly) give you 10% APR, it would make sense to take advantage of an 8% special financing.    If you are offered 0%, it is of course much easier to find something more profitable (e.g. put it in a 1% savings account).

 

However, this assumes that you WILL pay off the balance before the promotion ends AND that the other opportunity will provide the expected return.   For small amounts of money, and in the current interest environment, the slight gains may not be worth the slight risk.

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Anonymous
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Re: Carrying balance on 0% or not?

FICO score and individual Bank relationship are two different things. If you are looking to increase limits, paying the balance down to zero long before the term ends only be seen as favorable. As stated in the post right above me if you are paying interest elsewhere by all means pay the minimum on the 0% debt to throw more money at the interest-bearing debt, or if you're fortunate enough to have zero debt you can invest the extra money in the meantime.
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jason0618
Frequent Contributor

Re: Carrying balance on 0% or not?

Alright. Thanks for the thoughts. I'll let it ride and send payments in so that it's paid off in three months rather than 12. Over stock isn't a place i shop at regularly, but I do buy small stuff a few times a year, i.e. Towels, bed sheets, etc. This was my first furniture purchase, but with triplets I'll be buying a lot more furniture in the next couple of years. Might take advantage of 0% at that time when the balance is higher and I can make more difference with my money. $600 dresser isn't gonna make enough difference.
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Anonymous
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Oh wow triplets yeah spread everything out haha. I was around twins which wasn't a big deal but I can't imagine the third one popping off on a different sleep pattern lol
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