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Gmood1
Super Contributor

Re: Chase AA

They don't have to be on his Chase accounts. If his other lenders report to TU and EX. It's easy for them to pull up and look for patterns. Especially if those lenders report in detail. The current balance, minimum payment needed, actual payment and remaining balance.
Message 11 of 28
Credit-hoarder
Valued Contributor

Re: Chase AA

His total exposure across 5 cards was only $12K ($500 more than mine across 3 cards) and more than likely those were going to be his limits and long as he had those cards b/c CLIs are very rare with Chase---so I say good riddance. If his total exposure was say $60K or more with those 5 cards that would be a different story IMO. That's 5 more slots he can fill in due time with better lenders who WILL possibly give him better CLs.

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Message 12 of 28
bourgogne
Valued Contributor

Re: Chase AA

$16K across 25 cards and income is $56K? if yes his chase accounts are history and he will not get them back.  chase likes clean, they don't like games and exposure.  imo.

Message 13 of 28
Anonymous
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Re: Chase AA

What do you mean by Chase likes clean and doesn't like games?

Message 14 of 28
bourgogne
Valued Contributor

Re: Chase AA


@Anonymous wrote:
What do you mean by Chase likes clean and doesn't like games?


25 cards is a game, plain and simple.  16/56 debt to income.  everything in credit is risk.  you know all this, I think we all do.  not judging but collecting cards or credit limits seem a bit boring to me vs getting some actual utility out of the situation.  again just my .02. 

Message 15 of 28
BurgeoningHope
Frequent Contributor

Re: Chase AA

They seem to like people like my mother and my sister. "Real" people. A couple of majors, a couple of store cards, occasionally something kind of dedicated, like the Amex/Visa/MC for a warehouse store, and maybe a gas card. They pay their balances when they get their bills, and seldom carry a balance. Chase is rumored to like their card/s to be near the front of the wallet. They like relationships.

 

Like good BBQ, low and slow.

 

To the OP: I have more new accounts than I think they'd really like, but that includes AUs - not sure how they count that. FWIW, I'm working with an income 3x your brother's, with total outstanding debt 1/10 of his, and number of cards 1/4 of his (again, depending on how you count AUs - could be fewer).

 

It may be worth making an appointment at a branch and talking to a human, face-to-face, and ask if they'd help you guys create an action plan for getting back in their good graces.


Message 16 of 28
SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Chase AA


@bourgogne wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
What do you mean by Chase likes clean and doesn't like games?


25 cards is a game, plain and simple.  16/56 debt to income.  everything in credit is risk.  you know all this, I think we all do.  not judging but collecting cards or credit limits seem a bit boring to me vs getting some actual utility out of the situation.  again just my .02. 


You say that the OP's brother was playing a game by having 25 credit cards, and that it's boring, and that he wasn't getting utility out of the cards... but you're not judging?


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




Message 17 of 28
Anonymous
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Re: Chase AA


@bourgogne wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
What do you mean by Chase likes clean and doesn't like games?


25 cards is a game, plain and simple.  16/56 debt to income.  everything in credit is risk.  you know all this, I think we all do.  not judging but collecting cards or credit limits seem a bit boring to me vs getting some actual utility out of the situation.  again just my .02. 


I would not say 25 cards is a game everyone is different. 

As far as owing 16k with 56k income I imagine that is pretty good compared to the national average. Perhaps the OP has financed a large useful purchase. 

 

I am sorry to hear about your brother OP, Chase does seem to be picky 

Message 18 of 28
NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Chase AA

Sorry to hear this happened OP. Through mergers Chase ended up with several of my CC, with balances, from other banks. I think I had four in Chase at one time. They closed one, I closed one in 2014, and that left me with two. I carefully got Marriott and Hyatt in Dec 2014, Jan 2015 but I was leery and havent asked for anything since. The proximate cause of my AA was high balances. 

 

Hopefully the Freedom can be salvaged, and longer term your brother is able to get something useful. 

 

AA is not the end of the world, but it is nerve wracking until you go a few months past it.  Smiley Happy

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
Message 19 of 28
Anonymous
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Re: Chase AA

This is starting to make a little more sense to me.  Remember, Chase can see the entire report.  They're concern doesn't end with only their accounts.  They can track credit limits, balances, monthly balance changes(payments vs new charges), inquiries, new accounts. They see everything you can see on myFICO, actually even more.  

 

$16k debt

$160k TCL

$56k income

25 cards

Recently seeking more credit

 

I mean, could be a lot worse, but you can't claim they had no cause for concern.  

 

Did he have any other debt?  House? Car? Or other non-revolving accounts?  

 

I'm sorry that this happened to him.  Has to really suck after the holidays.  

Message 20 of 28
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