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I have a chase freedom. I barley got it with a $500 SL. I bank with chase and when I saw the pre-approval I took advantage before a new account I just opened for a bed, posted that I had spent $680 of the $1000 limit. I had just opened this account 5 days before the chase pre-approval in credit journey.
That account with synchrony for a bed is now down to $193 and I'm only at 8% total credit. I figure if all other cards report $0, I can make the monthly payment minimum since I have 12 mo. 0% apr. To make sure it's paid off, before but slow the large payments down and let that card report a balance and just pay it off slowly. And keep all the others @ $0.
With my chase freedom- I have had it for less than a month. But already earned my bonus $200 for spending $500. I use this for my everyday purchases and have already charged over $1200 on this account. I use it to make purchases and pay it off right away. Sometimes before the balance even posts.
My questions is, is this good for me to do in hopes that they will give me a CLI because of all of the activity after 6mos. Is this a bad idea?
I am new to credit and to this forum in general and love all of the points, since I'm spending that money anyway. So if I don't get an automatic CLI after 6 mo. Is it good for me to charge a lot of money to this account that I pay off right away to prove usage? Or will this somehow backfire? Because I pay it down right away they always post my utilization at 0.
I just want to make sure I'm not making some kind of mistake by charging way more per month than my $500 limit.
But I've read on here a good way to get CLIs with chase is to prove you use it. Is this right? Is there a different way to do this to make sure I get a CLI? Should I be waiting for the balance to post before paying? It usually take a few days, but I don't want to get behind on it so I just do it right away. Just want to make sure I'm not doing this wrong.
Thanks for your help.
There's been a lot of mixed results (as far as growth goes) for Chase CCs that were marginally approved.
You can try dedicating a good portion of your spend to see if that nudges an automatic CLI within a 6-12 month timeframe, but there's no guarantee. You'll see a variety of members who have reported a disappointing growth pattern on low SL Chase accounts. Potentially, if you want a higher limit, there'll be a HP involved but success stories are hit or miss depending on your overall profile, income and other factors.
Aside from the Freedom card and the recent SYNCB account, what does the rest of your profile look like? Any negatives?
So I have only had a cap1 secured for 9 months. Then got a credit one with an AF just to get the credit rolling. Have had that for 5 months. Then got they synchrony home and chase 5 days apart less than 1 month ago, about 3 weeks. My fico for experian is at 712 have to wait 42 more days to pull the other 2 I pay for experian credit works.
I have 2 negatives from child support from 2013. I had posted about it asking about getting negs removed early. I disputed them and EX dropped one of them, so did TU, the next one I have to wait until next year for it to fall off. It was closed as a "charge off" because of a hardship I didn't have to repay that. there were 2 accounts, So there is only one left on EX &TU They fall of in 3/21 and 6/22 on EQ. TU AND EX dropped the one that was about to fall off when I disputed it. So I still have 1 that will drop off 6/22. EQ is of course still showing both and won't remove them early. So that's what I have as far as negs. Do you think I will have more luck w chase once it falls off completely? Thanks for your help
Also edit to add anual income was 89,000 and this year will probably be around 94,000. But I've never had credit before 9 months sgo. Just the old child support I'm waiting to fall off.
Whether it would be a good idea to charge "a lot of money" to your Chase card would depend on whether those charges are organic or not. Even with issuers like Capital One that are known to have a favorable CLI response to high usage, it's not really rational to spend a lot of money now in a way you normally wouldn't in the hopes of being able to borrow a little more at a high interest rate in the future. With Chase this is even more the case in that, so far as I can tell, the relationship between usage and CLI underwriting doesn't seem to be anywhere as simplistic as Cap1's algos. It's been a long time since I've had a low-limit Chase card, but they seem to more be a lender that gives you as much limit as they are comfortable with up front and CLIs only come down the road if and when your profile grows in such a way that they are willing to give you more.
That said, there's not a reason not to run as much of your organic spend through the Freedom as you want to, since showing usage on the card wouldn't hurt. You don't need to pay your charges down right away like a debit card, just make sure you're paying them down frequently enough not to go overlimit and that you don't let high utilization post to the bureaus. Whether you should let a balance report at all depends on whether you have another bankcard reporting and whether you need to put polish on your profile for an upcoming app. But as long as you're using and paying responsibly, charging more than your limit each month shouldn't matter; it's kind of what you have to do when you're starting out and have a low limit on your daily driver.
What is your reasoning in carrying the $198 balance on the Synch account? Ofc you're not paying any interest, so in that sense it's fine, but are you not able to pay it off? If so, I would definitely restrain spending on the Freedom so I could do that instead. Carrying a balance on the Synch, even for a relatively small amount, may not help your chances for a Chase CLI, given that your Freedom approval appears to have been borderline. More generally, what does the rest of your profile look like? You appear to have utilization under control, but if there are lates or other metrics holding your profile down, addressing those can help you look more favorable as a borrower to Chase.
It looks like youngness of overall file and the two CS negs are probably two things that held your SL down on the Freedom app. Iirc, Chase often doesn't even approve w/o a year of revolving history. I think your best path to improving your limit with Chase is just to use the card normally and pay responsibly while you let your accounts gain age and your negs age off.
@Slabenstein wrote:It looks like youngness of overall file and the two CS negs are probably two things that held your SL down on the Freedom app. Iirc, Chase often doesn't even approve w/o a year of revolving history. I think your best path to improving your limit with Chase is just to use the card normally and pay responsibly while you let your accounts gain age and your negs age off.
Thanks for the info. So I'm not spending more than I normally would, I am simply charging it to a CC instead of paying with debit. My thinking behind leaving the balance on synchrony is to let something report since there is a balance on there, instead of paying it off and then having a different card report a balance. Since it's at a managble number and under 8% for my total, but about 18% for that specific card, would it be a good idea to get that card to below 10% and then pay that balance slowly. When all my cards go down to 0 my fico drops like 20 points. So for AZEO I was thinking about just paying it down slower since all others report $0. I get that the balance should technically be below 10% but with a minimum of $25 payment due I would only have a balance for 4 months and then it would be paid off.
After I pay off the bed, whick card would I want to run a balance on and what % is optimum for AZEO. does it matter if it's 1% 2% 4%? I'm done applying for credit now and just want to let my accounts age and not be above 5/24 for a CLI in case I have to ask with chase and get a HP. If that makes sense. So that's why I'm carrying a balance on synchrony. Since it already has a balance and paying if off they would all be $0.
But after it is paid off what card would I run a balance on?
Cap 1 secured is $600 limit
Credit one is $300
Chase is $500
Synchrony is $1000, but it's a furniture account so not a good one for carrying a balance.
Would I just let the $13 charge on cap1 stay on it for AZEO? I just want to make sure I would be doing this right what do you recommend? Paying off synchrony and just letting the cap 1 report a $13 balance? Thanks for your help.
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@Slabenstein wrote:It looks like youngness of overall file and the two CS negs are probably two things that held your SL down on the Freedom app. Iirc, Chase often doesn't even approve w/o a year of revolving history. I think your best path to improving your limit with Chase is just to use the card normally and pay responsibly while you let your accounts gain age and your negs age off.
Thanks for the info. So I'm not spending more than I normally would, I am simply charging it to a CC instead of paying with debit. My thinking behind leaving the balance on synchrony is to let something report since there is a balance on there, instead of paying it off and then having a different card report a balance. Since it's at a managble number and under 8% for my total, but about 18% for that specific card, would it be a good idea to get that @
Ah, so it's meant as an AZEO anchor (and, I presume, to avoid the AZ penalty whenever your Chase balance zeroes out). Those util numbers are good for that, but your balance-reporting card should be a bankcard to avoid penalties across all bureaus. Is this a store card account or a full Synch bankcard?
It's a synchrony home I got it at mattress firm but can use it for other furniture only.
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@Anonymous wrote:
@Slabenstein wrote:It looks like youngness of overall file and the two CS negs are probably two things that held your SL down on the Freedom app. Iirc, Chase often doesn't even approve w/o a year of revolving history. I think your best path to improving your limit with Chase is just to use the card normally and pay responsibly while you let your accounts gain age and your negs age off.
Thanks for the info. So I'm not spending more than I normally would, I am simply charging it to a CC instead of paying with debit. My thinking behind leaving the balance on synchrony is to let something report since there is a balance on there, instead of paying it off and then having a different card report a balance. Since it's at a managble number and under 8% for my total, but about 18% for that specific card, would it be a good idea to get that @
Ah, so it's meant as an AZEO anchor (and, I presume, to avoid the AZ penalty whenever your Chase balance zeroes out). Those util numbers are good for that, but your balance-reporting card should be a bankcard to avoid penalties across all bureaus. Is this a store card account or a full Synch bankcard?
So it would be best to pay it off and report on cap 1? I'm concerned about synchrony closing accounts due to inactivity. Since it's only for furniture and when I pay it off idk when I would put another charge on it. I have never let chase report any type of balance. I always pay it off right away, and on the 5th when the statement drops don't use it for a few days to make sure it doesn't report a balance.