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Thank you! I guess I was looking at it from the standpoint that if I pay those down first and make minimum on the other two. Once the CO are paid off, then I can pay what I was paying on the first two to the remaining two. Hope that made sense...it did in my head. Lol. I feel a little better now that I have those two below $1000 and the utlization under 60% because they both were much higher (at least 85%). Thanks for your advice. It makes sense and after reading this comment, I can see where I'm not making a lot of progress because Merrick and Discover still have high balances.
Hi OP and welcome to myFICO
Next time, please use some returns to create paragraphs and do not bold all your text. This will make your post easier to read.
If I were you, I wouldnt apply for a CC or a CLI until you get those 4 high UT CCs to <8.9%. And nope, Disco will not give you a CLI when you're almost at 98% UT. TBH, I think you should count your blessings that they haven't closed the CC. This is just not the climate to run up charges on CCs or carry maxed out balances. It makes CCCs nervous and view this as risky behavior.
So, IMHO, since your DTI is only 8%, now is a perfect time to pay down those balances.
GL2U
@CreditInspired Sorry, typing this from my phone. If it was in bold then it's because I accidentally hit the bold key.
Well, the balance on the Discover card has been high for a long time, so it isn't something that just happened. Of course, this pandemic certainly hasn't helped due to the financial crisis that it has created. I've read some other forums where people have posted about their CL being reduced or the cards canceled. It is definitely a concern for me. I am fortunate that my job is an essential job and I've been working this entire time, so that hasn't been an issue. But after reading other posts, it does make me worried that they'll close my card or reduce my limit. I hope that doesn't happen.
While my DTI is low, I have other expenses that I contribute to, I'm trying to build up my savings, and while my oldest is now healthy, she still has follow up care that I pay out of pocket for. It's a hard balance. I want to put a good chunk towards my cc balances, but it seems like every time I come up with a plan, I end up having $1500-2500 in medical expenses to pay out of pocket every year and it always comes at inopportune times.
It will take me forever to get to less than 8.9%. Definitely want to be there, but it seems like it will never happen.
Thanks for the advice!
>> It will take me forever to get to less than 8.9%. Definitely want to be there, but it seems like it will never happen.
A plan may be helpful if it seems like forever (which it isn't).
Step 1: As previously mentioned, stop using your credit cards, immediately. Don't let fear rule your actions, you are only hurting yourself by doing so. Choose wisely.
Step 2: Figure out how to pay these down. Don't count on $1500 miracle money being available at some future date, just pay more every month, find a way to do it. Live with less, don't eat out, make your lunch or coffee at home, whatever it takes. It doesn't take much, and it adds up.
For example (simplified, without taking into account interest).
Discover $9297/$9500, $187/mo payment (~2% of balance).
Can you up that to $250/mo payment, consistently?
$250 x 12 = $3000 paid down every year. Do that for 1.5 years and you're under 50%. 3 years and its paid off (roughly speaking).
It may also be helpful to see how much money you are throwing away in interest, as I know that's a big motivator for me. Let's say your Discover is 20% APR. 9297 x .20 = ~$1850year, ~$154/mo in interest. Most of that $187/mo you're paying on discover is just paying the monthly accrued interest, which is one of the reasons why the balance isn't moving. Up that payment, and you'll pay down principal, resulting in less interest being charged next month, and more of your (over)payment next month will thus go towards principal. It's a virtuous cycle, and likely the only practical way you'll get this debt under control.
I agree with a plan. I do suck at making plans/lists and sticking with them. Clearly evident by the fact that I have all this debt that I am barely chipping away at over the last decade or so.
Step 1: As previously mentioned, stop using your credit cards, immediately. Don't let fear rule your actions, you are only hurting yourself by doing so. Choose wisely. Minus a few small items (maybe two of less than $20 each), I have not put anything on my cards in the last few weeks. I added those charges because I was afraid if I didn't use them, especially Discover, it would throw a flag and they would close the card.
Step 2: Figure out how to pay these down. Don't count on $1500 miracle money being available at some future date, just pay more every month, find a way to do it. Live with less, don't eat out, make your lunch or coffee at home, whatever it takes. It doesn't take much, and it adds up. I've been teleworking a lot since March 17 and until the last two weeks, our state was still in Phase I, with take out/delivery only. I live in a rural area, so restaurant options are limited unless we travel 30-60 minutes. So, eating out has dropped significantly; however, since my kids were home earlier than anticipated due to school closures, I feel like I was spending more at the grocery store. I did do grocery to go orders, which allowed me to be more aware of what I was buying and I could see what I was spending before I hit the confirm button. I wish there was miracle money! I did put my stimulus check in savings because I felt that having an emergency stash is important.
Can you up that to $250/mo payment, consistently?
$250 x 12 = $3000 paid down every year. Do that for 1.5 years and you're under 50%. 3 years and its paid off (roughly speaking).
It may also be helpful to see how much money you are throwing away in interest, as I know that's a big motivator for me. Let's say your Discover is 20% APR. 9297 x .20 = ~$1850year, ~$154/mo in interest. Most of that $187/mo you're paying on discover is just paying the monthly accrued interest, which is one of the reasons why the balance isn't moving. Up that payment, and you'll pay down principal, resulting in less interest being charged next month, and more of your (over)payment next month will thus go towards principal. It's a virtuous cycle, and likely the only practical way you'll get this debt under control. That's pretty close to my interest on my Discover card. I think the amount to interest is around that figure, maybe a couple dollars higher. I can pay atleast $250 a month towards Discover. For many reasons, I would like to be able to pay it down faster than that. 1) I'm tired of it hanging over my head and being obligated to pay for stuff I bought a decade ago (so depressing); 2) I want to save more; 3) I will at some point need another car, definitely need a new sofa and work done on our house. So, with that said, this accumulated debt is hindering my ability to put this money towards other things, whether it be savings, the house, a vehicle, etc. I can definitely pay a higher amount. I think I was caught up in paying down the two smaller balances first, then tackling the next smallest (Merrick), then Discover. Since I have the CO cards below $1,000 balance, I was thinking about making a bigger payment (about $287) to Merrick, which is due in 3 days, which will get the utlization down on that card to less than 89%. I've already made one small payment to Merrick's minimum monthly payment, so the rest of the minimum owed by 6/18 is about $54.00. I obviously want to pay more than the minimum, since most of that goes to interest. Would it make more sense to pay the rest of the minimum plus a little extra, and then make a bigger payment toward Discover? I'm kinda torn.
***I just checked my Discover statements. My interest rate is 19.9%. Seriously shocked that it isn't higher. Amt to interest last month was $154.97. Since January, the amount of my payment that has gone to interest has dropped by almost $20. Minimal progress, but I have paid a lot in interest since January. I'm really kicking myself for not being invested, sooner, in reducing this debt.
Thanks for the advice! Definitely taking all of this into consideration, as it is very helpful.
A note on the interest thing, DO NOT put another cent in savings until you pay these cards off. Unless your savings account is giving you 20% interest, you're literally losing money by saving right now. Keep what you have in savings and divert that money to cc payments. You're bleeding money.
Additionally if you've got enough savibgs to pay all these off, do it now! You'll be saving over 20% interest and be in black ink immediately. Then take what your collective minimum payments were. PLUS your normal savings amount and put that away every month. You'll be in much better shape.
>> Don't let fear rule your actions
>>>> I added those charges because I was afraid
I know, I called that out. I'm suggesting you stop doing that.
>> Would it make more sense to pay the rest of the minimum plus a little extra, and then make a bigger payment toward Discover? I'm kinda torn
There is no best way, in my opinion. Or, rather, I can't tell you the best way. Here's a couple of different ways to approach it: https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/avalanche-vs-snowball-which-repayment-strategy-is-best/
What is most important is that you choose some way. Whatever that way is, it should almost certainly involve not using credit cards anymore. I suspect you may be a good candidate for physically cutting your credit cards in half and/or shredding them until you've got your debt under control. Don't get stuck in analysis paralysis. Consider your options, make a plan, stick to it as best you can. Car, couch, and house will have to wait unfortunately. Only you know your emergency fund requirements. Just know that every extra dollar you pay to any one (or all) of your cards every month will reduce the amount of interest you pay the next month, effectively "saving" you money.
Edit to add:
My posts can come off as a bit terse, so I just want to add this. You're brave for coming on this forum and sharing your situation. You're in good company. Practically everyone here has been where you are, or are there currently, and many of us are worse off. Many struggle with making plans, and sticking to them. Credit cards are so easy to use, nearly all of us have gotten into trouble with them. It's normal, it's human, and we're all human. What the experiences on this board show, and what I know from my own personal experience, is that it's fixable. Your debt numbers aren't out of control, they are totally fixable. It just takes a plan and some commitment on your part. If you're not good at doing that, nows the time to get good. You can do this, it's totally within your power and ability to achieve.
Couple of points.
The amount of interest you are paying dropped by about $20 due to recent changes in the prime rate. You have a variable APR, and since the prime rate changed your APR decreased.
The previously mentioned payoff strategy definitely did not account for interest. Paying just $50-75 more than the minimum will still require many years to pay the balance off.
You don't need to make new charges to prevent an account from being closed for inactivity if there is payment activity. My BoA Travel Rewards card hasn't seen a swipe since about 2006, but it's seen consistent payments most of those months while balances have been paid down (it's one of my primary balance transfer cards). With Discover, my card has not seen a charge in at least a year; but again payments on a promotional balance transfer keeps it open.
Definitely agree that anything you have in savings should be applied to the balances immediately. Just by paying down some of the balances you have a fair chance of being approved for more credit in the future if desperately needed, and possibly for a balance transfer card or loan with a lower interest rate than your cards.
Anything that can be done to stop the bleeding on interest alone should be done.
@dogmeat Thanks! I do appreciate the advice. I know what works for one may not work for others. I think I had a moment of panic the other week, when reading posts about accounts being closed. In all honesty, that's out of my control if it happens.
I always have great plans of how much I'll pay, and then something crazy happens. Never fails...every time!
I think it is easier to post on here and share with those who have been in or are in same/similar situations. Less judgment than it would be having this conversation with people I know. If I'm being honest, I've had some debt, whether small or large, since I turned 18, so maybe that's part of the reason why I wasn't stressing over getting paid it off. Hindsight is 20/20.
@K-in-Boston I obviously had no idea that you could keep a card open that long without putting charges on it. Learn something new every day I suppose! Honestly, once I get these balances paid down, I do have concerns about adding additional credit. I think those concerns come from where I'm at now and not knowing how many cards is too many, even if balances are $0 or super low. Is it better to have as much available credit? I know that's a long way off, but I want to have a plan and know that I'm in a good financial position.