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fastalkintn
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Earning points

The dw and I are starting to do the points thing for a trip later in 2018. She was just approved for an American airline card through Barclay and I did capital one Venture, both choices for the sub. My question is with these cards do you earn points for everything or just retail purchase? Will paying all my bills such as mortgage, utilities, cell phone etc earn points? I’m sorry if this has been asked a million times, I tried searching but couldn’t find any good answers.
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Anonymous
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@fastalkintn wrote:
The dw and I are starting to do the points thing for a trip later in 2018. She was just approved for an American airline card through Barclay and I did capital one Venture, both choices for the sub. My question is with these cards do you earn points for everything or just retail purchase? Will paying all my bills such as mortgage, utilities, cell phone etc earn points? I’m sorry if this has been asked a million times, I tried searching but couldn’t find any good answers.

If the "merchant" takes a credit card, then it will earn points, the exception being, in some cases, if it is seen as a substitute for a cash advance, in which case you won't get points and will get charged an extra fee and interest.    But this is for cases where you (should) know you are doing something a little different.

 

Of your three listed examples, cell phone is the easiest, most carriers will accept credit card payment with no extra fees, and some cards give extra points on these things.

 

Utilities vary, most will also accept credit cards but might charge an extra fee, either flat or %.   In most cases the % is higher than the reward, so no point.   If you are lucky enough to have a flat or no fee, you can certainly come out ahead, including by prepaying a few months for one flat fee.

 

Mortgages are the hardest.   Generally, you won't find a company that will take credit card payment and workarounds, like Plastiq, are also now not allowing payments to mortgage companies.

 

But in general bills are like purchases, it doesn't matter whether you pay in the store or from home!  Just look out for recurring bills where they may be an extra charge for using credit, just as there can be now in certain states at a store.

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K-in-Boston
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Anything that counts as a purchase will earn points, which includes everything you listed. However, mortgages can be difficult to pay with a credit card if not outright prohibited and are generally more cost-prohibitive than any rewards you would earn. Only things like balance transfers, fees, interest, etc. would not count as purchases.
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fastalkintn
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Thanks for the replies. I guess mortgage was a bad example. Glad to know everything else will work. We plan on trying to maximize our travel rewards this year, Jamaica here we come!!!!!
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MrDisco99
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I used plastiq to pay my mortgage with a credit card for a few months.  They charge a 2.5% fee, so it's really only cost effective if you are doing spend towards a bonus or some promotional high earning spend.  Otherwise it's hard to make it worth it.  Also, they only take MC for most mortgage lenders now since Amex and Visa have raised objections.

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Anonymous
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@MrDisco99 wrote:

I used plastiq to pay my mortgage with a credit card for a few months.  They charge a 2.5% fee, so it's really only cost effective if you are doing spend towards a bonus or some promotional high earning spend.  Otherwise it's hard to make it worth it.  Also, they only take MC for most mortgage lenders now since Amex and Visa have raised objections.


Yes, just because you CAN get points doesn't mean it is cost effective.   It's easy to tell with your cards, as these are straight cash-back.   If the fee for paying utilities say is above 2%, then it isn't worth it (except perhaps for meeting a bonus spend and there is no cheaper way)

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