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The following quote is found at Credit Karma. Here is what he/she has to say:
Question has been answered numerous times below. [Thread is solved]
Can someone explain what he is trying to say clearer? This paragraph seems wordy for a credit card nub such as myself. I guess the second paragraph is just general ranting and that I should focus on the first paragraph.
My guess is he means you have to pay for charges after they already posted to your account, not before. If you pay before, you are not actually paying for those charges, but it may be considered as you having a positive credit. Not sure if that makes sense.
The payment hold issue I believe it's about the source of those payments and whether Citi trusts it. DW has been with Citi for years, her bank account is on file and has been used many times to pay for charges and they post quick.
The other tricky thing with Double Cash is to redeem rewards to your bank account, NOT as statement credit, or you may run into that same issue mentioned above (positive credit) or Citi not counting that as a payment (we only redeem to checking account, so not completely sure about this). So far, everything has been accurate for us.
This user from the same web page communicates better:
"Fact: 1% Cash Back on Purchase, no caps
Fact: 1% Cash Back on Payments, even if you choose not to pay the entire balance. (But do the math for your spending and paying habits; the extra 1% could be thwarted if you carry a balance.) If you pay your current balance before your current statement close date, you get the full 2% in the same statement. Otherwise, you will get the 1% Payment Reward on the following billing cycle.
Fact: Redemption methods are statement credit , gift card and check. You can redeem at a minimum of $25.
Fact: Rewards will expire if you do not earn any rewards for 1 year. Basically if you stop using your card for 12 consecutive months, your rewards will expire.
Fact: You do actually speak with a person immediately when you call. I have only had to call once when I was unable to active my card online. "
From what I read from the previous author is that it seems he/she is saying that if you pay to early, you do not earn the extra 1%. Of course, I will not, or can not pay if the merchant's charge is still in pending?
I have the Citi Double Cash card. I pay my bill as my charges post, usually once a week, I don't wait for the statement to cut and I have always received my full 2% cash back.
You can only pay 7.5% above the current balance so most of the time I can't pay for pending charges, and I never do. Even though I pay before the statement cut, I get the full 2% at the end of each billing cycle.
The Purchase Tracker only shows on the statement, internally Citi does keep track in real-time. That means that as soon as a purchase leaves pending mode and shows as actual charge it becomes eligible for the full 2%.
I have never had my payment held for 5 days, my available credit immediately updates (except for gas and hotel holds) and my balance updates one business day after.
I too have the CapOne Quicksilver. The biggest difference is that the CapOne 1.5% shows up immediately, instead at end of billing cycle, and you can redeem immediately in any amount. CapOne does make it easier to earn and redeem, but I'm fine with waiting until I have a sizable chunk before redeeming so CapOne's ease of use does not factor in.
I have had my DC for five months now and I've never experienced any discrepancies or inconvencies.
Hope this helps, any questions reply.
@Anonymous wrote:I have the Citi Double Cash card. I pay my bill as my charges post, usually once a week, I don't wait for the statement to cut and I have always received my full 2% cash back.
This is good to know. The quotation from the first post sounds like he/she is saying that you get penalized for paying early and that you will not receive the extra 1%. I do the same, I pay as soon as the charge has posted.
You earn 1% cash back at purchase and the other 1% as you make payments on your purchases. I always pay after each purchase so I'm not really sure what the poster meant. If you PIF every month then you will earn the full 2% every month. If you carry a balance, then you will earn the other 1% as your payments post.
I always redeem my cash back in check form so I can't speak to statement credits. I was told by CS that the only account you can direct deposit your cash back earnings into is an account that has been used to make a payment. It sucks and is kind of annoying but it's a small inconvenience for me.
I have never had a problem with payments posting. I can make a payment right now on either of my Citi credit cards and my balance will immediately update. The balance updates right after you submit the payment. It may take 24 hours for the available credit to update but it has never been a problem for me.
@Anonymous wrote:The following quote is found at Credit Karma. Here is what he/she has to say:
"Initially excited 2% cash back is a great reward. However, the details matter. You don't get the 1% of purchase as you make them - only after the billing statement closes. You MUST pay attention to when you pay the bill -> if you pay the balance too early, [you] don't get the 1% back on of payments. The payments must be captured on a "purchase tracker" -> which can be much later than when you make the charges.
But what really annoyed me -> they "hold" payments for up to 5 business days. The payment will show as posted..but will not increase your available balance. They claim this is to make sure the "funds" clear -- but then why show the payment as posted? It should remain at the status of pending. Also, it doesn't not take 5 business days to clear an online electronic payment, especially when the money is withdrawn from bank account within 2 business days!
I prefer the capital one card 1.5% - it is truly no hassle. Earn cash back immediately, payments that post immediately increase availble balance!"
Can someone explain what he is trying to say clearer? This paragraph seems wordy for a credit card nub such as myself. I guess the second paragraph is just general ranting and that I should focus on the first paragraph.
Don't pay any attention to that ill-informed review. The reviewer is clearly an ignoramus or a Capital One apologist, likely both. It's hard to lend much credence to a review like that when there is so much misinformation there meant to mislead people. The "Annonymous" name should be a dead giveaway that it's probably not authentic and not made in good faith. There are also several posters on this site (who don't even have DC cards and have absolutely no idea how it works, I will add) who love to reference that review to try and dissuade people from applying for the Citi Double Cash.
This recent thread should address any concerns, as it has actual DC cardholders who confirm that they receive their full 2% back, even when paying before the statement cuts: http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Question-for-those-with-Citi-Double-Cash/td-p/4139586
If you pay your credit card bills (surprise!), then you have nothing to worry about with the DC.
I am a newer Double Cash customer of just a few months, and my payments reflect in the balance right away. Never had any issues and I love my card.
@Sharingan wrote:
Don't pay any attention to that ill-informed review...
It is unfortunate that 67 out of 72 users voted the anonymous users review as useful so that it is the first review that people see for the Citi Double Cash Back card.