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Vinjints
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Re: Fidelity Rewards Visa Signature Card


@portlandmusician wrote:

@Wavester64 As @CreditCuriosity said, once you have one, and treat it well, others will come - especially a second one. But, use can use the pre-approval to "test the waters," if you will. My first U.S. Bank card was instantly approved. The second, third, and fourth all got the 7-10 day notice, but then were approved when it went to underwriting - usually in 2-3 days.

 

I stopped pressing my luck after 4 personal cards (Altitude Go, Connect, Cash+, and Shield), and now I use the pre-approval before applying, but each time I get a 7-10 day notice and then get a letter in the mail that I'm at the max credit extended. I put in a pre-approval every 6 months just trying, since I want the Fidelity Visa (especially with the SUB and zero APR). With the elavated sub on the Cash+ ($250, not $200), I've tried to pre-approve that, too. But, I'm at my max with Elan and U.S. Bank, I guess.

 

Point being... don't worry. Try for that second card. But, feel free to use the pre-approval link. From what I've gathered, they're pretty solid.


This is interesting. So the USB cards and any Elan issued cards are definitely considered to be in the same bucket for total exposure, even if other FIs are involved?

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CreditCuriosity
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Re: Fidelity Rewards Visa Signature Card


@Vinjints wrote:

@portlandmusician wrote:

@Wavester64 As @CreditCuriosity said, once you have one, and treat it well, others will come - especially a second one. But, use can use the pre-approval to "test the waters," if you will. My first U.S. Bank card was instantly approved. The second, third, and fourth all got the 7-10 day notice, but then were approved when it went to underwriting - usually in 2-3 days.

 

I stopped pressing my luck after 4 personal cards (Altitude Go, Connect, Cash+, and Shield), and now I use the pre-approval before applying, but each time I get a 7-10 day notice and then get a letter in the mail that I'm at the max credit extended. I put in a pre-approval every 6 months just trying, since I want the Fidelity Visa (especially with the SUB and zero APR). With the elavated sub on the Cash+ ($250, not $200), I've tried to pre-approve that, too. But, I'm at my max with Elan and U.S. Bank, I guess.

 

Point being... don't worry. Try for that second card. But, feel free to use the pre-approval link. From what I've gathered, they're pretty solid.


This is interesting. So the USB cards and any Elan issued cards are definitely considered to be in the same bucket for total exposure, even if other FIs are involved?


Yes, same bucket as Elan/US Bank. US Bank is still the lender and is simply partnering with other banks in many cases so they can offer credit products, likely sharing profits with smaller FIs, etc. My assumption is the majority of the risk still sits with Elan/US Bank.

With that said, even if “max exposure” is the response, there have been reports of successful recons after denials for that exact reason. Data points such as being a good customer for X years, income, FICO scores, and overall profile strength can help support a reconsideration request. There have been past cases where US Bank/Elan overturned denials after recon for this reason.

Personally, I take pre-approvals with a grain of salt and don’t put much weight into hard pulls since they are usually only a few points depending on the profile. For example, I have never been pre-approved for cards from Citi, yet I’ve still been approved and now have around 100k in exposure with them. Same goes for Chase, etc. I’m not opted out either, and my CRAs were unfrozen when I applied.

No two credit profiles are the same, so direct comparisons are difficult. That said, there are still some general guidelines you can take from trends, such as Chase’s 5/24 rule, although even that has exceptions like the Amazon Chase card being exempt. The same applies to exposure limits — people often mention Chase capping exposure around 50% of income, but some profiles are approved at much lower thresholds while others are approved closer to 80% of income. With many lenders, nothing is completely set in stone, and exceptions can absolutely be made depending on the overall profile and circumstances.

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portlandmusician
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Re: Fidelity Rewards Visa Signature Card

@Vinjints 

Elan Financial Services is essentially the “behind-the-scenes” credit card division of U.S. Bank (more precisely, of U.S. Bancorp, U.S. Bank’s parent company).

 

Here’s the relationship in plain English:

  • U.S. Bank operates its own consumer credit cards directly under the U.S. Bank brand.
  • Elan Financial Services is a subsidiary/division that specializes in running credit card programs for other financial institutions — especially community banks and credit unions.

So... regional banks and local credit unions use Elan Financial Services for their credit cards:

  • the card has that institution’s logo on the front,
  • but Elan/U.S. Bank is actually doing the operational work underneath.

That’s why people sometimes see “Elan Financial Services” on:

  • their credit report,
  • statements,
  • payment portals,
  • or the back of the card,
    even though they thought the card came only from their local bank.

What Elan actually does

Elan provides a turnkey (“white-label” or “private-label”) credit card platform for smaller financial institutions. That includes:

  • underwriting / approval decisions,
  • fraud monitoring,
  • transaction processing,
  • customer service,
  • statements and billing,
  • rewards systems,
  • compliance,
  • mobile servicing infrastructure,
  • and reporting to credit bureaus.

The smaller bank or credit union mainly provides:

  • the customer relationship,
  • branding,
  • marketing to its members/customers,
  • and sometimes input on card features.

Think of it like this:

Visible to customer Actually powered by
Local bank brandingElan / U.S. Bank infrastructure
Credit union relationshipElan underwriting & servicing
Community institution rewards cardU.S. Bank-owned processing platform

Why smaller banks use Elan

Running a credit card business is expensive and heavily regulated.

A small bank would otherwise need:

  • risk modeling teams,
  • fraud systems,
  • Visa/Mastercard network integrations,
  • call centers,
  • dispute management,
  • compliance infrastructure,
  • rewards technology,
  • and large balance-sheet capacity.

Most community banks and credit unions simply don’t have the scale for that.

 

Elan lets them offer “big bank”-style credit cards without building the machinery themselves.

 

That arrangement is often called:

  • agent issuing,
  • white-label card issuing,
  • or private-label banking services.

Are Elan cards basically U.S. Bank cards?

Very often, yes — structurally.

 

A lot of Elan products are extremely similar to U.S. Bank’s own cards because they’re built on the same underlying systems. Many of us MyFico'ers and Reddit people will tell you that Elan cards are “clones” or close cousins of U.S. Bank cards.

 

For example:

  • the Elan “Max Cash Preferred” products offered through many credit unions resemble the U.S. Bank Cash+ card closely,
  • and many rewards structures are template-based across partner institutions.

You’ll sometimes find:

  • the same rewards categories,
  • same servicing website,
  • similar underwriting,
  • similar app/backend behavior,
  • and similar credit bureau reporting.

But the branding and some terms may differ by institution.

Why this arrangement exists strategically for U.S. Bank

For U.S. Bank, Elan is a way to:

  • expand credit card volume nationwide,
  • earn interchange and interest revenue,
  • and grow card accounts, without needing every customer to become a direct U.S. Bank banking customer.

Instead of competing against every community bank, U.S. Bank powers many of them behind the scenes.

 

I've heard (and read) that Elan partners with roughly 1,200–1,400 financial institutions nationwide.

 

So... Elan acts almost like “credit-card-as-a-service” for community financial institutions.

Why consumers get confused

The confusing part is that:

  • the local bank’s name is prominent,
  • but Elan/U.S. Bank is usually the legal issuer and servicer.

So customers may:

  • apply through their credit union,
  • but log in through an Elan portal,
  • talk to Elan customer service,
  • and see “Elan Financial Services” on credit reports.

That’s normal for this model.

“Private label” vs “co-branded”

There are two related concepts here:

  • Co-branded card
    Example: airline or hotel cards where both brands are visible.
  • Private-label / white-label banking program
    The smaller bank’s branding is front-and-center, while Elan powers the backend invisibly.

Elan mostly operates in the second category for community banks and credit unions.

 

So when your local credit union offers a Visa rewards card:

  • it may look like the credit union created it,
  • but Elan/U.S. Bank may actually own and operate the credit relationship underneath.
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