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Re: GEMB Accounts



haulingthescoreup wrote:
OK, I just spent 10 minutes on the Credit Education tab on this site, looking for the part that says that FICO wants at least one retail or gas card, and I can't find it! Smiley Surprised

And yet I see this repeated constantly, along with the one about FICO doesn't like personal finance installment loans. Can't find that either.

How much of this is left over from that somewhat-outdated FICO Scorecard powerpoint deal that surfaces periodically? Do we really know that a retail or gas card is still important to scoring in late 2007?

Because I'm like you --I regard store cards with deep suspicion. Other than Nordstrom (none within 300 miles of where I live) and Best Buy (really don't need any more electronics), I can't think of any that I might want.

Well, OK, maybe Kohl's, I'd forgotten about them. For my two shopping trips there every year! Smiley Very Happy

 
Ok you made me have to go look.  It doesn't specifically say store, gas charge but what is taken into consideration are types of credit used, ie credit mix:

Types of Credit Used

  • Number of (presence, prevalence, and recent information on) various types of accounts (credit cards, retail accounts, installment loans, mortgage, consumer finance accounts, etc

Some of these are positive influencessome are not.  Stay away fron CFL they will ding you.


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haulingthescoreup
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Re: GEMB Accounts


@Anonymous wrote:

Ok you made me have to go look. It doesn't specifically say store, gas charge but what is taken into consideration are types of credit used, ie credit mix:

Types of Credit Used

  • Number of (presence, prevalence, and recent information on) various types of accounts (credit cards, retail accounts, installment loans, mortgage, consumer finance accounts, etc
Some of these are positive influences some are not. Stay away fron CFL they will ding you.


See, that's what is confusing to me. They list retail in there, but they also list those undesirable consumer finance accounts. So this doesn't look like a list advising us to get 1 of each. Maybe retail accounts are good, maybe neutral, maybe bad. A head-scratcher.
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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@haulingthescoreup wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Ok you made me have to go look. It doesn't specifically say store, gas charge but what is taken into consideration are types of credit used, ie credit mix:

Types of Credit Used

  • Number of (presence, prevalence, and recent information on) various types of accounts (credit cards, retail accounts, installment loans, mortgage, consumer finance accounts, etc
Some of these are positive influences some are not. Stay away fron CFL they will ding you.


See, that's what is confusing to me. They list retail in there, but they also list those undesirable consumer finance accounts. So this doesn't look like a list advising us to get 1 of each. Maybe retail accounts are good, maybe neutral, maybe bad. A head-scratcher.

 
I think the amount and typeof influence varies which each product.  Retail cards don't have as great of a positive affect as bankcards.  CFLs are definitely a nono, look at it like this, if any one can ge it, its probably a bad thing,.

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haulingthescoreup
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@Anonymous wrote:
CFLs are definitely a nono, look at it like this, if any one can ge it, its probably a bad thing.


I got rescued by a WFF offer in the mail several years ago --came just when I needed it (whew), and I paid it off in 7 months.

Are they just sort of tacky on your credit report, or would it be a good idea to ask WFF to stop reporting it? It won't affect my history, and it's 7 months of perfect payment, how rare is that with me, but I wonder if it's just sort of sitting there, being neutral, or if it's actively pulling down my scores.
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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@Anonymous wrote:


@haulingthescoreup wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Ok you made me have to go look. It doesn't specifically say store, gas charge but what is taken into consideration are types of credit used, ie credit mix:

Types of Credit Used

  • Number of (presence, prevalence, and recent information on) various types of accounts (credit cards, retail accounts, installment loans, mortgage, consumer finance accounts, etc
Some of these are positive influences some are not. Stay away fron CFL they will ding you.


See, that's what is confusing to me. They list retail in there, but they also list those undesirable consumer finance accounts. So this doesn't look like a list advising us to get 1 of each. Maybe retail accounts are good, maybe neutral, maybe bad. A head-scratcher.

 
I think the amount and typeof influence varies which each product.  Retail cards don't have as great of a positive affect as bankcards.  CFLs are definitely a nono, look at it like this, if any one can ge it, its probably a bad thing,.



 
Nah, I'm leaving mine helpsthe age of my file but I hate to see the factors hurting my score being a CFLSmiley Sad  Perfect payment as well but hurting the score

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haulingthescoreup
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@Anonymous wrote:
Nah, I'm leaving mine helpsthe age of my file but I hate to see the factors hurting my score being a CFLSmiley Sad Perfect payment as well but hurting the score


Do you get a remark about it on your reports? I've never gotten a specific comment about having a CFA, at least not on the FICO's. Experian on my (shhh) TrueCredit reports says that I have too many personal finance accounts:
There are too many personal finance accounts on your credit report. [Experian] Having too much available credit can sometimes harm your credit score. Lenders may feel that you have the ability to spend more than you could potentially pay back. You might want to consider closing a few accounts or asking to have your credit limits reduced. Avoid closing too many accounts - especially the oldest accounts on your credit report - because it could harm your credit score. Closing the oldest accounts can damage your score by making the length of your credit use appear shorter.
But that's incredibly vague and on a FAKO score report besides. (My newspaper horoscope is more precise and accurate than FAKO comments!) hmmmm...
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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Anonymous
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Yep I get it on my FICOs cause there aren't a whole lot of reasons beside sthe BK
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Anonymous
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I have where it says neg cuz of ONE CF loan- ticks me off cuz it was great history- of course I paid it off in 12 mos before the interest kicked in!!! Might have even been six mos now that I think of it...
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I have 7, count em 7, back when I thought a loan was a loan and hoping to build my score
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Brammy wrote:
I have 7, count em 7, back when I thought a loan was a loan and hoping to build my score


Who knew? I think it was Hauling who posted the very same thing I affirmed that was told to me when I was 18- go to a furniture store and buy a piece of furniture. Then do it again. Then get a store card?
 
Who knew?
 
Of course, what was then is different from now, but that is why when I have kidlets- aka. little munchkins I will remain w/ the times to make sure whatever I "educate" (haha- for real though) them about credit and financial responsibility will be on par w/ how the markets work in the future.
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