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Brief history: 12-15 30/60 day lates on an auto loan that was paid off/closed in March 2017. No other baddies on EX. 1 medical CO on EQ and TU each, roughly 4 years ago. AAOA is 3.5-4 years. Scores are 641 on EX, 650 TU, 660 EQ. Here are my open accounts:
CapOne QS $400 limit, basically 0% utilization - 9 months old
Merrick - $550 limit, basically 0% utilization - 6 months old. Wish I never got this POS
NFCU $1,600 limit 10% utilization but it is my daily card so depends on when it's reported. I try to pay it off twice a month. - 2 months old
AmEx PRG 0% utilization (not reporting yet) - 1 week old
AmEx Delta $1,500, 0% utilization (not reporting yet) - 1 week old
And I'm an AU for a Discover with $9,000 limit, 100% utilization. 18 year history. I go back and forth about getting this removed. It is great for my AAOA but kills my Utilization. It is my ex wifes account, and suposedly going to be paid off this month (very high income, dumb to carry a balance but whatever). Confident I can remove it immediately with CRA and may do so before my next app.
So, if you've read this far thanks! My question is, should I apply for anything before I head to the garden? I have around 6-8 inquiries. I know my utilization is high, should I get off that card and app or keep it on and app? Or not app at all? Would love to get in with BOA, Citi, Chase etc. I know once thos AmEx cards hit my report Chase is out of the question for a while. Anyway, any and all advice is welcome. Thick skin here so don't hold back! Thanks guys.
For the most part, Chase won't accept you because of the 5/24 rule. You opened 5 new credit card accoutns in 24 months, so you won't be able to get most of the chase cards. Some of the co-branded cards might work. I would work on getting that Discover card paid off or removed as an AU. The 100% utilization is definitely hurting your credit score. I would also work on getting those credit limits increased before applying for anything. It will help your utlization and show lenders that you're responsible with higher credit limits. That should help you get a higher starting limit when you decide to app for new cards.
If you have your heart set on a Chase card, I would get it now. But I wouldn't be surprised to get a training wheels limit if you're approved. Otherwise I would hold off for anything new for a while. Give those cards a year to cool off (but aggressively go for SP CLIs) and as long as the util on that Discover card comes down to earth you should be golden. Because the other accounts are so new I don't think the util on the Discover is hurting you as bad as you may think, although it does hurt.
Does the Merrick have an AF or other fees? Is it one of the Double Your Line cards? If it has a fee, certainly try to get it waived or just close once the Discover balance comes down. This early on, it won't really hurt to close. My rule of thumb these days is to try to keep anything open older than my AAoA but I made a number of exceptions the last 2 years and will likely do a few more.
ETA: reward_hunter, OP is currently 3/24 for Chase purposes and probably has a good 4-6 weeks before the Amex cards report. Hence my "I would get it now" advice.
Thanks to you both for the reply! Which Chase card should I go for with my situation...Freedom? Should I get the Discover off my reports then apply or keep it on? How would BOA and Barclays view an application? From what I gather Citi would tell me to take a hike with me having 60 day lates within the last year. Feel like I'm up against a clock to when the AmEx cards report and when they do I'll be gardening for a year as I try to get my NFCU/AmEx cards (way!) up.
Thanks again guys!
If you really want a Chase card, I'd go with whatever fits your spoending the best. I don't think a CSP or CSR is a viable option. If the Freedom 5% categories fit your spend I would go for it. Again, approval would be iffy and the limit will likely not be staggering. However, Chase offers that go to existing cardholders bypass 5/24 (I got my CSP and Slate that way), so if you are looking for one of the premium cards that may come in handy in a year.
Barclays likely wouldn't touch you with the new accounts and/or the maxed Discover. BOA could be hit or miss but could grow huge in the future as your profile improves; try the preapproval page for BOA and Citi and see what comes up?
Thanks everyone for the replies. I forgot to add I was approved earlier this month for NFCU CLOC for the full $15,000, which was VERY surprising. Must admit I danced a jig upon seeing that immediate approval! Thinking I may wait to apply for anything else until that CLOC reports, hopefully before AmEx starts to report my 2 cards with them, then go after Chase. If anybody has other ideas/tips I'd welcome them.
Also, I may call and close the Merrick. It's doing nothing for my score and won't hurt my AAOA as far as I can tell. Rather not have the miniscule CL on my reports. At least I know CapOne will increase my limit over time, doubtful Merrick will.
How much is your bonus spend requirement on the AMEX Delta and PRG combination? Are you able to meet those two with regular spend?
A Chase card might be approved, but those often come with their own bonus spend requirements. If you add such a card, does that cause issues in your budget?
EDIT: I decided to put this at the top in case you dont wish to read all of this, but I dont think Ive seen a CLI attempt mentioned in the thread for Capital One? I'll edit to say that would be my FIRST(immediate) move, even before the "sit" with the ex, and hopefull close that I encourage later. Like with that, this only helps once it hits the reports, so best to try ASAP if you haven't. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Credit Pulls Database(tm), but it might help you decide on whether you pull the trigger on the Freedom. If you do a decent amount of Amazon shopping, the Chase Amazon Visa is another card that may have approval success in the same range as the Freedom. Also, the Chase Amazon Visa does not fall under the 5/24 rule, so you could save that as a backup plan, if you really want in with chase. If you get your Freedom(tm), you may also consider the Amazon store card if you do enough shopping. It can give pretty decent limits. Before I combined my 2 Cap1 cards, it had a higher limit than any of my non-store cards. Just something to consider for help in available credit/utilization....and if you shop on Amazon, the 5% back is a nice bonus.
Ok, here was my original post....for some reason I felt inspired to dish out some ideas for you to consider, as well as to encourage you to "close" :
First off, welcome to tbe board!!!! I love your name, awesome musicians! Saw Roger very recently, amazing!
You seem to be on the right track, so I want to offer congratulations. Others have said a lot, and I'd rather not repeat too much. The Chase Freedom might be a good goal. As someone mentioned, you may want to look at your 3 bureas and consider which would look the most or least appealing. The credit pulls database seems to show them pulling from all 3 bureaus. If you arent automatically accepted, read up on recons. Chase seems quite susceptible to recons in the right circumstances, including bankruptcy.
As was already noted, you have some time, but you want to make sure you do it before the Amexes report.
That reminds me...if you have any influence over the ex and can get any amount of that Discover AU paid down, it has the potential of greatly helping your score. With it's age and credit limit, I think getting rid of it would be more harmful than helpful, especially if you can get the ex to pay however much of it off. Of course even if that happens, it will take time to report, so you may wish to make your efforts at persuasion ASAP...as in very close to now. Waiting for that will probably answer your question about whether you should wait for the CLOC to report.
Of course, hopefully those things can/will get done before the AMEXes report, which has to remain the main focus. Even if you decide to garden like some folks like to(I'm a proud member of Wild Growth(tm) after Fertilization(tm), and have never gardened), it would seem getting that AU paid down ASAP would be the most beneficial thing you could do for your score...ASAP!!!(yes, I am trying to motivate you...I have no idea what kind of terms you are on with your ex, but apparently not enough spite to kick you off of it, unless she just forgot about it).
The movie Glengarry Glen Ross has the "ABC: Always Be Closing" scene. This is what you want to motivate yourrself. I do NOT mean closing the card, I mean closing your ex!!(on paying the Discover down, especially since you daid money is not a concern!! Let her know it will help HER score a great deal as well, which can get her CLIs, lower interest rates, etc, even if she isnt currently fiending over her credit score like so many of us FICO junkies on here do. Again, I want to encourage you to CLOSE her ASAP!!!(if possible). Hopefully the card reports soon, and you can expose your scores to Chase! Here is the epic Glengarry Glen Ross scene that I use to help motivate people to close! (if you are sensitive to cussing, I would skip it...otherwise it is a mix of laugh out loud humor, and despair, the life of a salesman. Of course we are ALL in SALES, and your biggest prize would be closing one ASAP! Please let us know how your sit goes, and if you were able to close! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elrnAl6ygeM Shine on!!!
EDIT 2: The post above me talks about your spend and meeting requirements for bonuses. I'm not sure if youve heard of "Plastiq", that lets you pay rent/mortgage and other bills by credit card? I think I remember reading a mod saying we cant post links like that, but you can find it in a search engine. That, or radpad, etc are good ways to help meet spending requirements quickly, especially if you have multiple bonuses to make. Anyhow, I know this post was long, I only expect you(the OP) to read all of it, but that's fine by me. I'm hoping there will be something useful in here to help expedite your journey to the promised land, even if there are many words to sift through.