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Help me understand this about payments...

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CreditScoreImprovement24
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Help me understand this about payments...

So, out of sheer curiosity (and as a newbie), I was curious about how minimum payments work.  I always pay in full just because my dad drilled it into me.

 

***Say for example....you have a credit card with NO intro period of zero apr (and minimum payment being the greater of 1% or $40).  If I max out the card to 100% utilization this cycle (2000 limit say so 2000/2000 used), and I have been paying in full all this time.......when the statement hits, the minimum payment will only be $40 right?  However, what happens after this $40 payment in regard to interest added etc?

 

***If I understand correctly, the first minimum payment will be a mere $40 but then the next statement will have a much larger minimum payment of $40 plus the interest on the $2000 balance?  ***So, the first minimum payment I make (provided I have been paying in full), will NOT have any interest at all, just $40, then next minimum payment will be $40+interest?  If so, do creditors do this as a TRAP essentially? 

 

The next statement balance will be over the limit?!?!  Because interest will be say $50 if for example you have a 30% apr.  So the next statement balance will be over the limit (1960 rolled over from last cycle + 50 = $2010)?  Would that be allowed by the creditor?  And just to make sure I understand how this works, the statement balance will be $2010 and the new minimum payment would go from $40 last time which was the "trap" to .... $40 + $50 = $90 .... $90 this time?!?

 

Thanks!

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Help me understand this about payments...

Minimum payments are set up so that (providing you made no more charges) you CAN pay off the entire balance just by paying minimums.  Each statement usually has a box demonstrating this, including the LONG time it would take.   So the balance never increases, but the issuer gets a lot of interest over time.

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Minimalist
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Re: Help me understand this about payments...

That's the key, it takes WAY longer to pay off than just a simple PIF would, years even.  There have been some times I've had to make minimums for a month or two, but I never prolong it.  PIF should really be the only option unless absolutely necessary.  If someone continues the minimum payment pattern long-term, I seriously question whether they should be using credit cards at all, and just stick to debit or cash.

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Thomas_Thumb
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Re: Help me understand this about payments...

Any balance not paid will be subject to apr fees that will get added to a subsequent months balance.

 

My understanding is the minimum due will exceed monthly interest by a token amount. Thus, if no more charges are put on the card, it will eventually get paid off just by making minimum payments. The payoff time frame might be 5 or more years.

 

Unfortunately, for a $2k balance, you could end up paying more than $2k in interest before balance is paid to $0. It all depends on apr %. Some issuers reportedly went as high as 34.9% apr.

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Kforce
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Re: Help me understand this about payments...

As others have said, most card issuers have a formula that will pay off the debt.

To aid those that need a low payment for a couple of months the minimum is usually at a threshold not much above the interest & fees.

It is very costly to only pay minimum numbers.

 

Your question is interesting in that with interest rates  > 24% many fixed 2% minimum payment cards would become upside down.

It use to be quite common for the grater of 2%  or a fixed $25-$50 dollar as a minimum.

 

I believe most have added a third clause to cove ever increasing interest.

Sample from one of my CU's

 

Min_Pmt.png

 

Your $2000 at current average APR of 29%  with this CU's high interest option (b).

Monthly interest would be 2.417% and with the extra 1% = (3.417 * balance) as minimum each month.

At month 55 you would then hit the $40 minimum threshold for remaining payments.

It would take 105 months and cost   ~ $2,891  in interest.

 

Starting Balance : 2000.000
Rate - Percent : 29.000 %
Minimum Payment : 68.340
Minimum Pmt Rate : 3.417
Lowest Minimum Pmt : 40.000

 

Payment           Principal               Interest                   Balance            yyyy/  #
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
68.34                   20.01                    48.33                         1979.99             2025     1
67.66                    19.81                     47.85                          1960.18              2025     2
66.98                    19.61                    47.37                           1940.57             2025     3
...................................................................................................................
40.52                   11.87                   28.65                              1173.85            2029    53
40.11                      11.74                   28.37                              1162.11             2029    54
40.00                   11.92                   28.08                              1150.19           2029    55
...................................................................................................................
40.00                 38.40                 1.60                                  28.00             2033   104
28.68                   28.00               0.68                                  0.00                2033   105
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Total              4890.76

 Interest       2890.76                          

Years/Mo    8.75y  / 105 months

 

 

 

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