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How to build personal credit, so that I can get unsecured cards ????

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How to build personal credit, so that I can get unsecured cards ????

Hello Everyone, 

 

I would like to get some advice on my credit. Let me give you some history real quick... 

 

I am a 21 year old student/self - employed. 

 

Early August 2010  - I tried applying for someone credit cards to help out in  but was denied, because lake of credit history.   CREDIT SCORE - 0

 

End of August 2010 - I finally spoke to BAO and opening a secured credit card with $1,000 limit. ( Increased it to $10,000 secured by sept.) CREDIT SCORE - 689

 

Mid Sept - Care credit $1,000 

 

Late Sept - I opened a CITI secured card for $5,000.  - CREDIT SCORE - 619  the score fell so much do to 80% utilization 

 

I also got approved for a Capital one for -$ 500. 

 

Recently I got some store cards for personal use  - Lord& Taylor - $1100 & Bloomingdales - $1000 

 

I tried applying for Business Credit cards and its not working, Chase Slate & Sapphire denied for Lake of history, credit increased too fast, current use ratio....and so on. 

 

Amex - Gold card = denied 

Amex - Blue = denied 

 

discover - denied back in Sept 

 

I PAY OFF ALL MY CREDIT CARDS IN FULL BEFORE THE DUE DATE !!!! 

 

I am planning on opening another secured card next week from wells fargo, initial credit limit $7500 and then raise it to 10K by Jan. 

 

I need advice though, how can I build my credit to high unsecured limits ???   Credit score as of today : 699  - I would like high limits so that in the event that I do charge 20-30K some months, my debt-income ratio doesnt go overboard. 

 

Also I am planning to buy a car consigned with a family member in sept 2011. If I get approved, god willing !!!!! -  A member had stated earlier that I should get a cosigner for car, from my experience I feel that bmw financial will not approve me due to various reasons i.e. age, income, length of credit, debt-income ratio, and the fact that I have never bought a car.  

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: How to build personal credit, so that I can get unsecured cards ????

 


@Anonymous wrote:

Hello Everyone, 

 

I would like to get some advice on my credit. Let me give you some history real quick... 

 

I am a 21 year old student/self - employed. 

 

Early August 2010  - I tried applying for someone credit cards to help out in  but was denied, because lake of credit history.   CREDIT SCORE - 0

 

End of August 2010 - I finally spoke to BAO and opening a secured credit card with $1,000 limit. ( Increased it to $10,000 secured by sept.) CREDIT SCORE - 689

 

Mid Sept - Care credit $1,000 

 

Late Sept - I opened a CITI secured card for $5,000.  - CREDIT SCORE - 619  the score fell so much do to 80% utilization 

 

I also got approved for a Capital one for -$ 500. 

 

Recently I got some store cards for personal use  - Lord& Taylor - $1100 & Bloomingdales - $1000 

 

I tried applying for Business Credit cards and its not working, Chase Slate & Sapphire denied for Lake of history, credit increased too fast, current use ratio....and so on. 

 

Amex - Gold card = denied 

Amex - Blue = denied 

 

discover - denied back in Sept 

 

I PAY OFF ALL MY CREDIT CARDS IN FULL BEFORE THE DUE DATE !!!! 

 

I am planning on opening another secured card next week from wells fargo, initial credit limit $7500 and then raise it to 10K by Jan. 

 

I need advice though, how can I build my credit to high unsecured limits ???   Credit score as of today : 699  - I would like high limits so that in the event that I do charge 20-30K some months, my debt-income ratio doesnt go overboard. 

 

Also I am planning to buy a car consigned with a family member in sept 2011. If I get approved, god willing !!!!! -  A member had stated earlier that I should get a cosigner for car, from my experience I feel that bmw financial will not approve me due to various reasons i.e. age, income, length of credit, debt-income ratio, and the fact that I have never bought a car.  

 

 


 

At this point I believe your immediate goal of having a credit grantor giving you $20 - $30k in unsecured credit is totally unrealistic.  Most likely, from what you have written, any creditor today would view you as an accident waiting for a place to happen.  Here's why:

 

1.  Not counting any possible inquiries from your auto purchase, it looks like you have approximately 15+ relatively fresh inquiries -- all within a 6-month period.  This is a huge red flag.

 

2.  Still not counting any possible new auto loan, you have 7+ new accounts (tradelines) reporting -- all opened within the past 6 months.  This is another big red flag.

 

3.  You stated your utility is at about 80%.  That might as well be the kiss of death.

 

The most intelligent course of action would be to stop applying and start taking care of the tradelines you do have now.  Let the inquiries age for at least a year at which point many lenders start to worry less about them.  Let your current accounts age.  Many lenders count accounts as "new" until they are at least two years old.  Do not let creditors report showing that you are anywhere over -- at most -- 10% of your available limit. 

 

Once you have aged your accounts, gotten the inquiries off your credit report and brought your utilization down to an acceptable level, your secured cards would probably have unsecured by then and you could probably start seeing either decent CLIs and / or new creditors who are willing to extend $20k credit lines.  Heck, some generous credit unions might even go higher.

 

Another thing to consider is being self-employed.  Many creditors look suspiciously at those who are self-employed so you might want to be prepared for requests for IRS tax transcripts.  If you say you earn, for example, a million dollars a year and the IRS transcript backs this up, you're in a very good position to ask for higher credit limits.  If, however, the IRS transcript shows you earn less than you claim, you're probably lucky if they give you a $100 limit.

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: How to build personal credit, so that I can get unsecured cards ????

Wow:

 

Unless by "college student" you mean Harvard, and by "self employed" you mean Created Facebook- you are really at a disadvantage (unless your family has money and will co sign you.)

 

You are 21, do not have a degree and are a student and self employed. Sorry but you need to accept the fact that you have a challenging building credit future, unless you can get a family member or "partner" with an established credit history.

 

The fact that your score is near 700 is ONLY due to the fact of your young age. You still lack credit experience and credit history and that will trump any FICO score, (unless you have a job and a contract making 100K+ a year)

 

As has been suggested you need to step back from applying and manage what you have.

 

If your business is "legit" as in your filing all your paperwork and stuff after you have some type of history with it proving income and profitability, you may want to go to your local bank or credit union, preferably the one you have your business accounts with to see about help through them. You should try to position yourself now in banking relationships with institutions that will help you and work with you.  If you currently do not have any Business accounts for your business- well thats a problem in itself.

 

Also- assuming you need credit for growth/expansion, you should look into the SBA and see if they can help you.

But  come on you are 21 years old, you are not getting $25k in lines of credit.

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Anonymous
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Re: How to build personal credit, so that I can get unsecured cards ????

Just a thought here and probably worth about 3 cents.

 

Why not take the money you want to use to open another secured card and just pay down the debt you have? 

 

IMO if your self employed business is doing well enough then the need for credit is really obsolete at the present time. Let the few lines you have age and pay cash for any other expenses that arise for now. Your approach of applying for new credit is actually hurting you more then helping you. The more you keep rushing and applying the longer it will take to establish yourself and your business. 

 

Good luck with your business and I wish you many years of wealth, health and happiness.

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Creditaddict
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Re: How to build personal credit, so that I can get unsecured cards ????

few things that i think.

1. Stop applying for credit, when you get declined for a charge card from Amex, you don't go and apply for a credit card version from amex, they are harder to get.

But if I was you it would be my goal to get a charge card from Amex, Maybe even Zync would be approved now if your util is under 10%

2.  instead of opening yet another secured card, add the 7500 to your current largest secured card if they will let you go higher

3. Navy Fed might be a great option to look into for a larger CL credit card, but at this point the INQ are probably going to burn your chances

4. going to the bank that holds your business accounts would be a great option if they are small enough to look at the bigger picture

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Anonymous
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Re: How to build personal credit, so that I can get unsecured cards ????

STOP APPLYING AND JUST PAY YOUR BILLS ON TIME.  you cant force credit to happen.  it will happen over time.  trust me i know.  ive tried applying for everything.  not a good strategy.  and i dont think you need more than 1 secured card with a 10k limit.  so if you are planning on another just dont.

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smc733
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Re: How to build personal credit, so that I can get unsecured cards ????

Also, high CL secured cards won't fool creditors into thinking you have high CLs.  I started my credit with a $500 secured card, which was good, because it ended up reporting as "Secured Credit Card".  (BankAmericard Secured)

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laz98
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Re: How to build personal credit, so that I can get unsecured cards ????

 


@smc733 wrote:

Also, high CL secured cards won't fool creditors into thinking you have high CLs.  I started my credit with a $500 secured card, which was good, because it ended up reporting as "Secured Credit Card".  (BankAmericard Secured)


not all cards report that way.

 

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Anonymous
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Re: How to build personal credit, so that I can get unsecured cards ????

OP:  If you "PAY OFF ALL MY CREDIT CARDS IN FULL BEFORE THE DUE DATE !!!!" how do you have an 80% util rate?

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MarineVietVet
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Re: How to build personal credit, so that I can get unsecured cards ????


@Anonymous wrote:

OP:  If you "PAY OFF ALL MY CREDIT CARDS IN FULL BEFORE THE DUE DATE !!!!" how do you have an 80% util rate?


This can happen because utilization is calculated by the balances showing on the monthly statement. If a person pays the balance down before the statements post the utilization is easier to control.

 

 

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