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I did the unthinkable. I closed my Amex BCE

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: I did the unthinkable. I closed my Amex BCE

I can empathize Pizza: I am finally getting around to paring down some too. 

 

Paid off the Alliant loan even though it had a few months to possibly run on it, I have SD'd Fido, Barclays whatever it is now, my Penfed PLOC, and the Discover card until I get the "closed by credit grantor" which may not come anytime soon.  I am also going to be closing the Costco card before February when the membership comes due again, just never really used the Costco membership as much as I should've and given how busy my life is going to be working two gigs one of which still has me up in San Francisco every so often, well, don't see my kicking my restaurant habit anytime soon.

 

The BCE is seemingly held open by my $10 a month on the Zync (recurring donation to the local NPR station) and my occasional use of the biz SCP potentially, both of which I'm keeping anyway.

 

The USAA card has been SD'd for years but I don't think that's going anywhere given all my insurance is through them.

 

So 5 accounts either closed or in process of being closed/ignored till closed, and another couple permanently in the SD and if I lose it ain't no big thing.  Maybe I will get antsy and just close them all at the beginning of the new year... oh the First Tech card that I got for international incidentals via C+P (which exists nowhere in Asia that I found) has yet to be used not once and I'm not running out to use that either so that I suppose is another.

 

Sigh, all these useless accounts other than padding my aggregate CL, I should do better... just my entire relevant financial life is run through Chase now and I'm not really thinking diversification either at this point.




        
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barbaralee
Established Contributor

Re: I did the unthinkable. I closed my Amex BCE

Oldman87, it is no biggie. Much like opening it on a whim I closed it on a whim.
The card was also 3 months old, I would be surprised if they allowed me to reallocate. I thought for such things it usually has to be at least a year.
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Anonymous
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Re: I did the unthinkable. I closed my Amex BCE

So I normally try not to close cards mainly because my average age of accounts is on the thin side at just under 3 and a half years and my oldest card at just over 8 years. Playing the crest card points game recently hasn’t helped that - but it has kept me more aware of the situation. What is everyone’s view on balance between average age of accounts, keeping credit working for you and of course keeping score high.

For me having to close a 2.5 year old card because I hit AMEX’s max credit card limit is bitter sweet. Got the 70k miles and 10k MQMs for the reserve card, but lost the age.
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kdm31091
Super Contributor

Re: I did the unthinkable. I closed my Amex BCE


@Anonymous wrote:
So I normally try not to close cards mainly because my average age of accounts is on the thin side at just under 3 and a half years and my oldest card at just over 8 years. Playing the crest card points game recently hasn’t helped that - but it has kept me more aware of the situation. What is everyone’s view on balance between average age of accounts, keeping credit working for you and of course keeping score high.

For me having to close a 2.5 year old card because I hit AMEX’s max credit card limit is bitter sweet. Got the 70k miles and 10k MQMs for the reserve card, but lost the age.

Note that closing the accounts is not going to hurt your AAOA, at least not for 10 years. So that isn't a reason to keep them open - once closed, they will still age and add to your AAOA for the next 10 years.

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pizza1
Community Leader
Super Contributor

Re: I did the unthinkable. I closed my Amex BCE


@Revelate wrote:

I can empathize Pizza: I am finally getting around to paring down some too. 

 

Paid off the Alliant loan even though it had a few months to possibly run on it, I have SD'd Fido, Barclays whatever it is now, my Penfed PLOC, and the Discover card until I get the "closed by credit grantor" which may not come anytime soon.  I am also going to be closing the Costco card before February when the membership comes due again, just never really used the Costco membership as much as I should've and given how busy my life is going to be working two gigs one of which still has me up in San Francisco every so often, well, don't see my kicking my restaurant habit anytime soon.

 

The BCE is seemingly held open by my $10 a month on the Zync (recurring donation to the local NPR station) and my occasional use of the biz SCP potentially, both of which I'm keeping anyway.

 

The USAA card has been SD'd for years but I don't think that's going anywhere given all my insurance is through them.

 

So 5 accounts either closed or in process of being closed/ignored till closed, and another couple permanently in the SD and if I lose it ain't no big thing.  Maybe I will get antsy and just close them all at the beginning of the new year... oh the First Tech card that I got for international incidentals via C+P (which exists nowhere in Asia that I found) has yet to be used not once and I'm not running out to use that either so that I suppose is another.

 

Sigh, all these useless accounts other than padding my aggregate CL, I should do better... just my entire relevant financial life is run through Chase now and I'm not really thinking diversification either at this point.


@Revelate, I dont like it when you work 2 contracts !! But, I understand, gotta strike while the $$$$$ is hot, like you need it though, LOL. Sure miss you! Smiley Wink

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: I did the unthinkable. I closed my Amex BCE


@pizza1 wrote:


@Revelate, I dont like it when you work 2 contracts !! But, I understand, gotta strike while the $$$$$ is hot, like you need it though, LOL. Sure miss you! Smiley Wink


*hug*  Worst case you know where to find me Smiley Happy.

 

Not at walk away money yet my friend and so while I don't need it immediately ostensibly, I do need it longer-term; however, decided to be a good boy and not buy the Tesla Model 3 and instead first pay off the residual CC expenses, then airstrike the languishing HELOC balance, and if the market is still awkward just start throwing free cash flow at the mortgage.

 

It's simple finances I guess, but when I get to the point I don't have a housing payment which might be sometime in the next 3-4 years if I really hardcore start paying down my mortgage while just maxing out the 401k and the traditional IRA (even if not deductible) as far as long term savings go, this all gets really easy from a financial perspective as it doesn't look like I'm going to have a massive burn rate increase and that literally drops nearly 2k/month straight to my bottom line, which cuts my monthly expenses nearly in half.

 

Being utterly out of debt though is still like ~240k away (post-tax) and that happens a lot faster at 80 hours per week than 40, long as I can keep my poop in a group at any rate but I think I can manage both of these together fairly easily, only real pain point is the travel up to SF occasionally but what the hell, might take the Medellin marketing approach and as long as I'm doing well at the one that wants to be my one and only (the lower income and ostensibly more work of the two), just make more upside for them than the downside heh.

 

Course now the one in SF has an SVP sniffing around as to what it would take to get me to move to the Bay Area... I know, first world problems hahaha.




        
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DaveInAZ
Senior Contributor

Re: I did the unthinkable. I closed my Amex BCE


@pizza1 wrote:

So, Ive been in one of those moods lately.....the one where I clean house in the CC section, and noone is safe when that happens.  I gave it some thought, and I closed my Amex BCE tonight. I got no scuff about closing it, nor did I get sent to retentions, lol (wasn't expecting too).  I barely got the card back in June anyways, SL $500, and the acceptance of the card was with no offers.  I also did not get their version of "credit steps" email either.  

 

Every time I applied for a CLI on the card, the system automatically denied it for "BK on credit reports", just like it did when I would apply before. I also know the rules of CLI with amex61/91/6mo. The CSR's dont understand at all what I try to tell them about the auto declines and that Im past their "5yr BK policy", and asked for MR of my account to be sent to the UW, and it fell on deaf ears. When I closed it tonight I got an american who I explained in great detail my story, and she was just as confused about the CLI denials, and opened up a complaint for me. I said, sure, whatever. Close it anyway, too much of a hassel and headache for me.

 


Well, sure can't blame you, I have no patience with low CLs and no CLIs, but to my surprise Amex has been the opposite for me. I didn't get pre-qual approvals until 6 years post BK7 discharge, Amex not included. But they sure made up for that, my BCE approval was for $15k SL April 2017, I almost fell out of my chair! I've never requested a CLI because the SL was so generous for my income (under $50k), and I'm mindful of a financial review request where they ask for that form to get your tax returns because I won't do it, a mortgage app gets my tax returns, not a common credit card. And since my 1 yr. anniversary I've had a standing offer to upgrade to Preferred with $250 SUB. Not going to happen, I'm very adverse to CCs with AFs and my BCE is barely useful as it is - 1% "all other" rewards doesn't cut it, and for my rural area Walmart is much cheaper & better for groceries. My BCE gets a swipe once or twice a month at most, when I stock up on wine at a chain grocery, Safeway, so it's maybe once or twice a year when I hit the magic $25 level in rewards.

My BCE is a keeper for me for the CL and occasional 3% grocery rewards, but it gets no lovin' from me.

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Anonymous
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Re: I did the unthinkable. I closed my Amex BCE

Dave, 4506T request associated with Amex CLI is just an income verification request, not a financial review, it can be ignored without consequences unlike FR. If BCE is strictly for UTI padding, feel free to request CLIs with confidence, if you trigger the IV request just back tab the browser and enter a slightly lower figure ($1k less is a good number) and repeat until approval without IV, then you can shred all IV request snail mail when they arrive in few days.
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