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I think I am getting too greedy

Recently I have been opening up alot of credit cards. I opened my very first one for citibank with $500 limit. 

Last year I opened up Amazonstore card $800 (I never used the amazon, i want to cancel it?) and Wells Fargo $800

 

 

This year I applied for Amex everyday $1000, also Regular gold and was accepted for both. 

(Before I did the Amex, I tried to apply for CSP but was not instantly approved, need to wait to hear the result in mail)

 

I actually meant to open premier gold not regular gold, so i called the CS and canceled the regular gold right away, applied for PRG and was accepted instantly. 

 

My credit score is 695, also last night I got my citibank CLI increased to $1300. 

 

Now I want to apply for Citi Premier thank you card, and cancel my old citi and amazon ? or is that bad idea. or is it bad idea to apply for more credit card for now haha

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Anonymous
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Re: I think I am getting too greedy

Once you are on the game, you just cannot stop it... No problem!

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takeshi74
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Re: I think I am getting too greedy

It depends on a number of factors including what your credit profile can support, what you need/want and what you can responsibly manage, among other considerations.  The low limits should indicate to you that creditors do have concerns with your credit profile and that your credit profile will be limited in how many new accounts you can add.

 

If you're just applying for the thrill of the approval, just to get more credit, etc then you may want to step back and reconsider your strategy.  You should start with your needs/wants and use that to select specific cards that suit you.  Some things you should be considering:

 

  • Where is your major spend going?  What are your major spend categories?  How much noncategory spend do you have?  Are you using this information to find rewards cards that maximize rewards for your spend?  Don't just look at earn rates.  5% on very little spend is very little rewards.  Find where your money is going and maximize rewards on that spend.
  • Are you running the numbers for your spend for any rewards card that you're considering?  For rewards programs like Membership Rewards (Gold, PRG & Everday), Ultimate Rewards (CSP), Thank You (Citi Prestige) do you have sufficient spend to redeem rewards in a timely fashion or is it going to take you years to accrue enough points to redeem?  What methods of redemption can use you use with each rewards program and how does it impact the value of rewards?
  • Are you considering total cost/benefit (again, running numbers for your spend) or just looking at AF's?
  • Do you have sufficient spend for multiple rewards programs like MR, UR and TY?  Just one of these typically takes a large amount of spend.

That's not an exhaustive list by any means.  Make sure you have a strategy and that each card you app for serves a specific purpose.  Don't just app and don't expect to be able to continually app.  Don't just app until denied.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

 

My credit score is 695

 

Where is this score from?  What model?  What CRA?  You don't have just one score.  There are many scoring models used by creditors.  For most models you have a score with each of the 3 major CRA's.  You cannot rely on just one score.  The score that matters is the score that a given creditor will pull for you so you need to consider the relevance of a particular model & CRA for a given creditor.  If a creditor uses a TU FICO 8 then you need to pull a TU FICO 8 if you want to know what number they will be looking at.  Any other model and/or CRA will not be relevant to that creditor.  You cannot use a score generated by one model to determine a score generated by a different model.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

Now I want to apply for Citi Premier thank you card, and cancel my old citi and amazon ? or is that bad idea. or is it bad idea to apply for more credit card for now haha


Even without more information I'd say it's a bad idea.  As for closing cards, take a look at the Closing Credit Cards thread linked in the Helpful Threads sticky in the Credit Cards subforum.  You need to be much more careful with apping.  Even if you close right away you've already reduced your AAoA, incurred a hard pull and added a new account.  These are all risk factors that add up quickly for a credit profile like yours.

 

Before apping for anything else, read up and educate yourself so you can spot these red flags before you get yourself in trouble instead of after.

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myjourney
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Re: I think I am getting too greedy


@Anonymous wrote:

Recently I have been opening up alot of credit cards. I opened my very first one for citibank with $500 limit. 

Last year I opened up Amazonstore card $800 (I never used the amazon, i want to cancel it?) and Wells Fargo $800

 

 

This year I applied for Amex everyday $1000, also Regular gold and was accepted for both. 

(Before I did the Amex, I tried to apply for CSP but was not instantly approved, need to wait to hear the result in mail)

 

I actually meant to open premier gold not regular gold, so i called the CS and canceled the regular gold right away, applied for PRG and was accepted instantly. 

 

My credit score is 695, also last night I got my citibank CLI increased to $1300. 

 

Now I want to apply for Citi Premier thank you card, and cancel my old citi and amazon ? or is that bad idea. or is it bad idea to apply for more credit card for now haha


I'll be honest and you may not want to hear it but its the truth...

Just look at the highlighted sections and read how it displays 

!st thing I see is you need to garden a LONG LONG TIME

 

2nd thing I see is what the CCC's are showing you......

A) you're borderline with low CL's approvals and or denials 

B) you have no history with 5k limits but you want and IMHO the waste of good HP's CSP and premier

 

3rd thing I see is you don't do research on what suits your needs you just apply.....(Amazon)

 

I'm sorry but sometimes people need to sit on their hands and do nothing but 

Age accounts

Pay bills 

And most importantly research before pulling the trigger

 

Before you app think...
Have you done your research of the CC?
Does it fit your spending?
Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
Can you afford the AF?
Do you know the cards benefits? Is it worth the HP?
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Anonymous
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Re: I think I am getting too greedy

Get on chat with amazon and request 25k CLI asap. Last april I had the same credit limit, in 90 days it was at 3-6k easily.  There is something with your profile that is spooking the lenders. I would figure out if there is anything on there.  How many inquiries do you have ?

 

 

Good info in the above posts.  Make sure the card makes you money.  Dont give in to the looks and such and apply thats what banks want you to do. And if I were a betting man, Id gamble you arent even transferring your MR points from your ED to delta, and if you arent, then that card is really not worth it.

 

I would review your spending in about 6 months or a year and find the best cash back cards from the link in my signature.

 

Also when you amex is at least a few months old request a 3x CLI if approved repeat 6 months later. Gotta build your limits you have so you dont keep getting such low limit cards.

 

Credit union may be the best place to go to in about 6 months.

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Anonymous
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Re: I think I am getting too greedy


@Anonymous wrote:

Recently I have been opening up alot of credit cards. I opened my very first one for citibank with $500 limit. 


For Citi CLIs, Be careful, and look for it to say that it will not be a hard inquiry. In my opinion, Citi CLI is not worth a hard pull.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

Last year I opened up Amazonstore card $800 (I never used the amazon, i want to cancel it?) 

 


Try never to apply for cards that aren't beneficial to you. Call Credit Solutions for Synchrony bank and request a $25,000 CLI. It will be a soft pull.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

 

(Before I did the Amex, I tried to apply for CSP but was not instantly approved, need to wait to hear the result in mail)

 


CSP is a Visa Signature and requires a minimum $5,000 CL. Your other cards don't support them giving you a $5,000 limit, so it's likely a denial.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

 

 

Now I want to apply for Citi Premier thank you card, and cancel my old citi and amazon ? or is that bad idea. or is it bad idea to apply for more credit card for now haha


All of your credit is very new, and you have a lot of inquiries now. You really need to garden and let your current accounts age and build up soft pull only CLI's. Why do you want these new cards? If there's no perks or specific value in getting them, you should hold off as you'll be borderline approval and get the highest APRs.

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: I think I am getting too greedy

You have a good start, some good cards from good CCC.

 

Stop apping for a long while.

 

Keep the Citi card open. Work it hard, pay in full, and watch the Citi pre qualification tool. Only consider applying if you get a single APR, not a range, on the Premier, and even then you probably want to wait until that APR improves even more.

 

Read up on the AMEX 3X CLI steps, you will need to wait for a while before starting that, but it can grow your CL.

 

Dont close no-AF cards until you have several years of credit history, and even then only after thinking three times about why you might want to close it. 

 

If if you want the CSP, read up on the Chase 5/24 rule. You can't have 5 new cards in the last 24 months and get instant approval (perhaps not any approval) so it is another motivator to stop apping, to not even app for the Citi Premier until after CSP.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: I think I am getting too greedy

What's your annual income? I'm asking coz you have toy limits and your score is not bad enough to get such low limits. Also, just chill like others said and age the accounts. No point in applying for cards when the limits are so low. See what's holding you back and change your app strategy.

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Anonymous
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Re: I think I am getting too greedy


@takeshi74 wrote:

It depends on a number of factors including what your credit profile can support, what you need/want and what you can responsibly manage, among other considerations.  The low limits should indicate to you that creditors do have concerns with your credit profile and that your credit profile will be limited in how many new accounts you can add.

 

If you're just applying for the thrill of the approval, just to get more credit, etc then you may want to step back and reconsider your strategy.  You should start with your needs/wants and use that to select specific cards that suit you.  Some things you should be considering:

 

  • Where is your major spend going?  What are your major spend categories?  How much noncategory spend do you have?  Are you using this information to find rewards cards that maximize rewards for your spend?  Don't just look at earn rates.  5% on very little spend is very little rewards.  Find where your money is going and maximize rewards on that spend.
  • Are you running the numbers for your spend for any rewards card that you're considering?  For rewards programs like Membership Rewards (Gold, PRG & Everday), Ultimate Rewards (CSP), Thank You (Citi Prestige) do you have sufficient spend to redeem rewards in a timely fashion or is it going to take you years to accrue enough points to redeem?  What methods of redemption can use you use with each rewards program and how does it impact the value of rewards?
  • Are you considering total cost/benefit (again, running numbers for your spend) or just looking at AF's?
  • Do you have sufficient spend for multiple rewards programs like MR, UR and TY?  Just one of these typically takes a large amount of spend.

That's not an exhaustive list by any means.  Make sure you have a strategy and that each card you app for serves a specific purpose.  Don't just app and don't expect to be able to continually app.  Don't just app until denied.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

 

My credit score is 695

 

Where is this score from?  What model?  What CRA?  You don't have just one score.  There are many scoring models used by creditors.  For most models you have a score with each of the 3 major CRA's.  You cannot rely on just one score.  The score that matters is the score that a given creditor will pull for you so you need to consider the relevance of a particular model & CRA for a given creditor.  If a creditor uses a TU FICO 8 then you need to pull a TU FICO 8 if you want to know what number they will be looking at.  Any other model and/or CRA will not be relevant to that creditor.  You cannot use a score generated by one model to determine a score generated by a different model.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

Now I want to apply for Citi Premier thank you card, and cancel my old citi and amazon ? or is that bad idea. or is it bad idea to apply for more credit card for now haha


Even without more information I'd say it's a bad idea.  As for closing cards, take a look at the Closing Credit Cards thread linked in the Helpful Threads sticky in the Credit Cards subforum.  You need to be much more careful with apping.  Even if you close right away you've already reduced your AAoA, incurred a hard pull and added a new account.  These are all risk factors that add up quickly for a credit profile like yours.

 

Before apping for anything else, read up and educate yourself so you can spot these red flags before you get yourself in trouble instead of after.


+1

 

OP, You should thoroughly research what product you want/need before you app. Opening new CC's should be done so with careful consideration and thought. It's not something that should be taken lightly. While adding new trade lines should help your util (assuming your debt stays at or around the same), your CS will take hits for the inquiries and AAoA.

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Anonymous
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Re: I think I am getting too greedy


@myjourney wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Recently I have been opening up alot of credit cards. I opened my very first one for citibank with $500 limit. 

Last year I opened up Amazonstore card $800 (I never used the amazon, i want to cancel it?) and Wells Fargo $800

 

 

This year I applied for Amex everyday $1000, also Regular gold and was accepted for both. 

(Before I did the Amex, I tried to apply for CSP but was not instantly approved, need to wait to hear the result in mail)

 

I actually meant to open premier gold not regular gold, so i called the CS and canceled the regular gold right away, applied for PRG and was accepted instantly. 

 

My credit score is 695, also last night I got my citibank CLI increased to $1300. 

 

Now I want to apply for Citi Premier thank you card, and cancel my old citi and amazon ? or is that bad idea. or is it bad idea to apply for more credit card for now haha


I'll be honest and you may not want to hear it but its the truth...

Just look at the highlighted sections and read how it displays 

!st thing I see is you need to garden a LONG LONG TIME

 

2nd thing I see is what the CCC's are showing you......

A) you're borderline with low CL's approvals and or denials 

B) you have no history with 5k limits but you want and IMHO the waste of good HP's CSP and premier

 

3rd thing I see is you don't do research on what suits your needs you just apply.....(Amazon)

 

I'm sorry but sometimes people need to sit on their hands and do nothing but 

Age accounts

Pay bills 

And most importantly research before pulling the trigger

 


+1

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