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Is high utilization acceptable when you have low limits?

I've been away for work and I missed my statement closing dates.  I just had several notifications that my statements were ready and I owe over $700 on my $1000 limit Citi DC.  I paid it today and it wasn't due until Feb 15 but every one of my cards reported with high utilization.  

 

Nothing is late, but people still freak out over high utilization.  I'm supposed to work out a 6 month and 1 year plan according to a financial class and around June/July I want to try for a Citi CLI.   It's a bit confusing because credit card issuers like to see more swipes but lower utilization.  I was told to use the Citi DC for my everyday spend instead of my debit card, gas, groceries, eating out, etc. and pay it off before the closing date but that's always been a dangerous game and I missed it again.  I'm really not sure how I'm supposed to use WalMart and Amazon each with a $200 CL so I threw them in the SD. 

 

The best information I can get, my FNBO card was opened 1 year, 10 months ago but it seems like I had it longer.  According to Credit Karma, my current AAOA is 8 months after adding several new cards. 

 

My big question is, would it be better to use the Citi card like normal even if utilization is a bit high or just make a token purchase and SD the card for the rest of the month?   The 1% when you use the card and 1% when you pay is decent as I get 0% when I use my debit card.  FNBO also gives me 0% CB.  

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Anonymous
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Re: Is high utilization acceptable when you have low limits?

This is my opinion based off of what I know. It is important, but payment history is obviously more important. My utilization is now 1-3%, I am a year and 6 months or so into the credit game. If you are new, build up slowly and you will surely overcome it. I have a fairly reasonable credit line now and I am just taking care of it. If you can, use it like a debit card. Pay it off right away, that's my recommendation if you can.

 

Can you setup automatic payments? Set a reminder on your phone, that's my number one priority. I check my bank accounts everyday, my cards, pay, repeat.

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Anonymous
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Re: Is high utilization acceptable when you have low limits?

No, it is not acceptable for FICO purposes.  70% utilization is extremely high and will drop your FICO scores for sure.  If many accounts are over 68.9%, your scores will drop massively.

 

You say you missed your statement date again, how can that be?  You find your next statement dates, put it on a calendar you hang on the door you leave your home through, and mark a big red X on today.  If there is a statement date coming tomorrow, you pay off the card unless it's your AZEO card (see my 11 rules link for AZEO).

 

If you use up all your limit, you can pay it down multiple times in a month.  I could put 70% of all of my charges on a $200 card by charging one or two purchases and paying it off right away and repeating.

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SouthJamaica
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Re: Is high utilization acceptable when you have low limits?


@Anonymous wrote:

I've been away for work and I missed my statement closing dates.  I just had several notifications that my statements were ready and I owe over $700 on my $1000 limit Citi DC.  I paid it today and it wasn't due until Feb 15 but every one of my cards reported with high utilization.  

 

Nothing is late, but people still freak out over high utilization.  I'm supposed to work out a 6 month and 1 year plan according to a financial class and around June/July I want to try for a Citi CLI.   It's a bit confusing because credit card issuers like to see more swipes but lower utilization.  I was told to use the Citi DC for my everyday spend instead of my debit card, gas, groceries, eating out, etc. and pay it off before the closing date but that's always been a dangerous game and I missed it again.  I'm really not sure how I'm supposed to use WalMart and Amazon each with a $200 CL so I threw them in the SD. 

 

The best information I can get, my FNBO card was opened 1 year, 10 months ago but it seems like I had it longer.  According to Credit Karma, my current AAOA is 8 months after adding several new cards. 

 

My big question is, would it be better to use the Citi card like normal even if utilization is a bit high or just make a token purchase and SD the card for the rest of the month?   The 1% when you use the card and 1% when you pay is decent as I get 0% when I use my debit card.  FNBO also gives me 0% CB.  


You're conflating "utilization" for FICO scoring purposes with utilization in the generic sense.

 

Utilization for scoring purposes is a very narrow concept: it's based, with few exceptions, on statement balance. If you pay off all your cards before the statements cut, you will have 0% utilization.

 

Example:

Joe has 3 cards, with $1000 credit limits, and spends $500 each month on each card. He pays in full the day after the statement cuts. His scoring utilization is 50%.

 

Sam has 3 cards, with $1000 credit limits, and spends $500 each month on each card. He pays in full a week before each statement cuts. His scoring utilization is 0%.

 

For FICO scoring purposes, optimum utilization would be to have all but one of your revolving accounts reporting a zero balance, with the one account reporting at less than 10%.

 

As far as utilization in the generic sense you can have as many swipes as you want during the month. If your card has a $500 limit but you spend $750 throughout the month, consistently paying it down, your lender will love you. And will probably increase your limit one of these days.


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Anonymous
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Re: Is high utilization acceptable when you have low limits?

OP, do you have exactly 3 credit cards?  A Citi with a $1000 limit and two $200 limit Synchrony accounts (WalMart, Amazon)?  If so, you have $1400 in total limits so with $700 reported you're at 50% aggregate utilization.  This is not a good look.  If you have the ability to PIF every month, set up autopay on your DC card to PIF your total balance (not just your statement balance, as that won't include new charges) and select a date that's 3-4 days before your closing date.  Another option would be to make at least 1 extra payment per month.

 

As for your Synchrony accounts, I'm certain that you can increase those $200 limits with SP CLIs to make those cards more useful.  The first thing you'll want to do is take down that 50% aggregate utiization though by ensuring that your Citi card reports a far lesser balance next cycle.  Ideally, you'd want this balance to be in the $3-$80 range.  Once that reports, you then want to make sure that the Synchrony accounts SP you so that they see the new lower balance on your Citi account.  I believe most Synchrony accounts provide you a monthly FICO score.  If so, check that score and see the date that it updates.  You'll want to wait until the first time that score updates after the new (lower) Citi balance reports.  This will give yourself a much more favorable look with requesting a CLI through those Synchrony accounts.  With single-digit reported aggregate utilization, I wouldn't be surprised if Synchrony increased your credit limits to $1000-$3000 on each of those accounts. 

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NRB525
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Re: Is high utilization acceptable when you have low limits?


@Anonymous wrote:

I've been away for work and I missed my statement closing dates.  I just had several notifications that my statements were ready and I owe over $700 on my $1000 limit Citi DC.  I paid it today and it wasn't due until Feb 15 but every one of my cards reported with high utilization.  

 

Nothing is late, but people still freak out over high utilization.  I'm supposed to work out a 6 month and 1 year plan according to a financial class and around June/July I want to try for a Citi CLI.   It's a bit confusing because credit card issuers like to see more swipes but lower utilization.  I was told to use the Citi DC for my everyday spend instead of my debit card, gas, groceries, eating out, etc. and pay it off before the closing date but that's always been a dangerous game and I missed it again.  I'm really not sure how I'm supposed to use WalMart and Amazon each with a $200 CL so I threw them in the SD. 

 

The best information I can get, my FNBO card was opened 1 year, 10 months ago but it seems like I had it longer.  According to Credit Karma, my current AAOA is 8 months after adding several new cards. 

 

My big question is, would it be better to use the Citi card like normal even if utilization is a bit high or just make a token purchase and SD the card for the rest of the month?   The 1% when you use the card and 1% when you pay is decent as I get 0% when I use my debit card.  FNBO also gives me 0% CB.  


First off, utilization is a snapshot, and $700 is likely not a chore to pay off, so in isolation, any "score impact" from the DC reporting 70% utilization is temporary. As a one-off it is not worth worrying about, and in isolation, the heavy use of that card should lead to a nice (relative to Citi) CLI in a few months of continued heavy usage. The main thing, as everyone will agree, is to pay on time.

 

However the rest of your post leads me to wonder how many cards you have. One we know is 70% utilization on the last statement. Two more are in the SD? One you might be using but gets zero rewards.

 

You mention you need to create a financial plan. Is that just for planning your next steps in general, or are there other debts you are trying to manage?

 

Can you list out all your cards, their limits, last statement balances,  and how much you use each card in a month (estimated). Any other debts like student loans, car, or mortgage?

 

I would use the DC heavily also, since the 2% is actual cash back, a tangible benefit. If the Amazon and Walmart cards have rewards and you are shopping there anyway, it makes sense to use those cards nearly up to their limit, then pay in full. Any concerns about FICO score are temporary, and easily managed by anticipating the statement date and paying down the balance ahead of that. Ultimately, the only person who cares about your FICO score is you, and the bank you are applying at today. Yesterday that bank did not care at all because you weren't applyling for credit. (If someone has lates, then more banks care)

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: Is high utilization acceptable when you have low limits?

I've made some scew ups in the past few months so my parents are making me take this class, it's not just a plan to pay your bills but they want you to plan your future goals and stick to the plan.  I applied for a WalMart card because I needed new tires for my car but I only get a $200 CL so I get a maxed out card that didn't cover the whole bill.  The lesson here is never apply for a retail card at the register.  I applied for Amazon back to back with WalMart because I could save $40 on a purchase and I was able to get a jump starter pack for next to nothing when Amazon had their Black Friday sales.  The following week I get a pre-appoved mailer for Citi DC, I broke the rules and applied for it.  Obviously, you can't apply for every junk offer that comes in the mail but this was a chance to get in with Citi.  

 

Menards Big Card, I have a $4,600 CL and I have $56 on it this month.  Overstock, never used it had a $750 CL and they bumped it up to $1,000 when I tried to cancel it.  FNBO $600 CL and I put about $400 on it this month.  Cap1 QS $850 CL and I put about $600 on it.  None are late, just accidently let the balances report.  

 

Following the pattern, I should be able to get a SP CLI from Menards around March.  I've been getting around $1,000 every time I request one.  Not really sure what it does for me since it's a retail card but it can't be wrong to ask for more, can it?  Citi is the big one, I want the best CLI I can get around June/July.  It's questionable how much the QS will grow since in started as a Platinum rebuilder card with a $300 CL and they gave me a few $100 CLI's and they gave me the last one just after I was approved for the Citi DC.  Maybe get another $100 CLI in June if I'm lucky, $0 if I'm unlucky.  Getting a CLI from FNBO has been like pulling teeth.  I asked for a CLI after the card unsecured and was denied, asked for $1,000 a year later and they gave me $300.  Not sure if I should ever ask for more or not.

 

My plan is to just stop using WalMart and Amazon because of the low limits and I don't want to mess with them.  Stop using FNBO since it has no rewards.  I'm going to leave applying for another card off my plans, but who knows what my credit scores are going to be in 6 months.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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tcbofade
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Re: Is high utilization acceptable when you have low limits?

It sounds like you're going to be just fine.

 

Your Fico scores might drop a bit (quite a bit) when those cards report the higher utilization...but the good news is that utilization has no memory.  Just be sure to pay them down before the next statement cuts, and your scores will rebound when they do.

 

Keep learning, you're off to a good start.  Smiley Happy

Fico 8 7/01/25: EX 800, EQ 805, TU 792.
Fico 9: EX 812 04/15/25, EQ 804 04/08/25, TU 792 02/15/25.

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