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Is this going to haunt me?

I just got my rejection letter in the mail from Bank of America... and my Chase Freedom, so it balanced out. Okay first the good news, it says my Experian on May 10, 2012 was 718. That's pretty much dead inline with what USAA says right now (don't worry, I know not to think it will stay that way). Pretty stoked about that.

 

The bad news. I was denied for Too many inqs in last 12 months, Length of time revolving accounts have been established, and .... this one, Proportion of loan balances to loan amounts is too high. I've managed to take a huge bite out of the principal on my auto loan, but my student loan is a horrendous beast. The original loan went from 30k to 45k thanks to interest accruing while we attempted to focus on my wife's medical bills. So now I'm 15k over the original loan amount and it could be 3-5 years minimum (we plan on putting our tax returns almost solely back into our student loans) before I even get within site of the principal. Could even be longer if we plan on saving to buy a house.

 

If the other two problems weren't there, do you think they would have overlooked that and just given me a lower limit? It obviously hasn't barred me from Amex or Chase. You'd think there could be some leeway given that it's a student loan and only a very few very financially smart people pay off their interest as they go... and those people are usually smart enough not to accept a student loan in the first place. Anyways... what do you all think about this monkey on my back?

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Anonymous
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Re: Is this going to haunt me?

A lot of rejection letters just take fico reasons on why your score is lower. What does the wording say before giving you the reasons? If I am right, you should take the reasons with grain of salt as it just may represent an automated response and may not represent why they really rejected you. As for the student loan, it is a real problem. Been a while since I have dealt with student loans. So I am not sure if this is still possible. If possible, consider reconsolidating your student loans which would reset the loan amount and take you back to 100%
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Re: Is this going to haunt me?

I have to agree with Crash.  Many times lenders will just stack up reasons on people that have low or borderline scores.  Year or two down the road you will have better established credit, older AAoA, etc...  If your student loans are not consolidated you should consider doing so for several reasons.  Even if you lose a lower rate on some balances, you will gain on others.  Also there are regulations that base what your max payments can be based upon your income.  This does increase the term and interest, but the lower payments will make creditors feel that you are safer.

 

Personally I would consolidate my loans, but I am still working on a few more degrees and my loans are deferred.  Until recently all my loans were subsidized, so I saw no increase in interest.  This year I found out that my stock portfolio is too large to get subsidized loans, so now future ones will not be so.  If I combine them I am pretty sure they lot will no longer be subsidized, so I am waiting till I am done with my education. 

 

Of course the disclaimer must be included that this is ihmo and ymmv

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Re: Is this going to haunt me?

You're both right, the wording prior to the list of reasons isn't "This is why we denied you", it is instead "The key factors that adversely affected your credit score are". I think the one that concerned them the most was length of revolving accounts in this particular case. When I attempted to recon that was the only reason they mentioned, and they mentioned it consistently.

 

Now, the definition of consolidation roots itself in 'combining'. I only have the one. Maybe I can convince somebody the principal and interest are two seperate loans and they need to consolidate the two together for me? Smiley Tongue Or is consolidation a loose term in this case given that 99% of the time it's used for multiple loans but can also be used to essentially refinance a single loan?

 

This is veering away from credit card discussion so if a mod wants to move it, I'll completely understand.

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Revelate
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Re: Is this going to haunt me?

BOFA is notoriously conservative, even compared to lenders like Chase.

 

Your issue is simply a matter of time and money.  You have the scores to justify a mortgage, if you have enough income to justify your DTI on the mortgage app, and enough cash or assets for a reserve you'll be fine.

 

That's a long way from haunting, assuming you maintain your increase your income as time goes on, you'll be OK.  Just work on reducing your debt which is never a bad thing to do regardless.  Frankly, you're in with Chase and Amex, what do you need BOFA for anyway?  Current credit offerings, if I had those two lender's cards in my pocket, I'd pretty much be done for 99% of my credit needs from a rewards perspective... and I suspect even most people cover between 90-95% of their spend between products offered by those two.  

 

Really, unless they change the old student loans and kick up the interest rate, it's not as if you've done anything wrong to date: without a mortgage, those are probably still the cheapest money you've ever been lent from an APR perspective... those are the loans you're supposed to make minimum payments on compared to a more expensive revolving or auto loan balance.

 

 

 

 




        
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Re: Is this going to haunt me?


@Anonymous wrote:

You're both right, the wording prior to the list of reasons isn't "This is why we denied you", it is instead "The key factors that adversely affected your credit score are". I think the one that concerned them the most was length of revolving accounts in this particular case. When I attempted to recon that was the only reason they mentioned, and they mentioned it consistently.

 

Now, the definition of consolidation roots itself in 'combining'. I only have the one. Maybe I can convince somebody the principal and interest are two seperate loans and they need to consolidate the two together for me? Smiley Tongue Or is consolidation a loose term in this case given that 99% of the time it's used for multiple loans but can also be used to essentially refinance a single loan?

 

This is veering away from credit card discussion so if a mod wants to move it, I'll completely understand.


Forget the words and call someone about it and see if it is eligible
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@Revelate wrote:

 

That's a long way from haunting, assuming you maintain your increase your income as time goes on, you'll be OK.  Just work on reducing your debt which is never a bad thing to do regardless.  Frankly, you're in with Chase and Amex, what do you need BOFA for anyway?  Current credit offerings, if I had those two lender's cards in my pocket, I'd pretty much be done for 99% of my credit needs from a rewards perspective... and I suspect even most people cover between 90-95% of their spend between products offered by those two.  

 


Oh I'm super happy to be in with them. I got giddy when Amex approved me, and I think I actually made an unearthly noise when I saw the Chase instant approval as well. If I could play the night over again I wouldn't app for BoA or CapOne, but that's easy to say what with 20/20 hindsight.... I just figured that since I took the inquiry I might as well play it out as far as I could. Smiley Happy

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Anonymous
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Re: Is this going to haunt me?

You just let the moment get away from you Smiley Wink

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