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Re: JCB Card Quick Question


@Anonymous wrote:

This card should be accepted anywhere that takes Discover, right?


In the same way that Discover is accepted anywhere in Japan that takes JCB, yes.  (My favorite is 7-11 - it's well-known that 7-11 has one of the few Japan ATMs that accept foreign cards such as Discover/Pulse, yet all the 7-11 checkout terminals reject Discover.)

Message 21 of 28
hiro905
Valued Member

Re: JCB Card Quick Question


@Revelate wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

This card should be accepted anywhere that takes Discover, right?

 

Also, having to mail a paper app probably means you have to mail paper checks to them (or have your bank's bill pay do so for you) I'm betting. I don't know how I feel about that.


It's not; in person transactions work OK depending on area, online is terribly hit or miss as apparently it's not a default option to turn on for the usual Discover merchant account settings, or otherwise some were setup before the reciprocity agreement was established and then never updated.  

 

FT had a good writeup or two on it if you're willing to search for it.

 

As for bill pay to pay it, for me I don't have a problem with that, and at least where I'm at JCB acceptance should continue to gain ground.  Figure whenever I get to the point I have to zealously micromanage my balances again, worst case I just leave that card as the balance reporter.  

 

After reading some of the approval stats from other people going to take a swing at this post mortgage; other than the mortgage inquiries looks like I match what they're looking for score and income wise, and if it's manually underwritten, they'll look at the inquiries and know what's up rather than some automated systems which frankly may have a suck implementation Cat Tongue

 

Apparently can't pay Federal taxes with it though Smiley Happy.


 

Revelate is correct in acceptance of the card, its generally hit and miss, more miss.  IMO card is over hyped.  Poor earning structure, poor acceptance, poor online management of card, and low limits.  

Message 22 of 28
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: JCB Card Quick Question


@hiro905 wrote:

@Revelate wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

This card should be accepted anywhere that takes Discover, right?

 

Also, having to mail a paper app probably means you have to mail paper checks to them (or have your bank's bill pay do so for you) I'm betting. I don't know how I feel about that.


It's not; in person transactions work OK depending on area, online is terribly hit or miss as apparently it's not a default option to turn on for the usual Discover merchant account settings, or otherwise some were setup before the reciprocity agreement was established and then never updated.  

 

FT had a good writeup or two on it if you're willing to search for it.

 

As for bill pay to pay it, for me I don't have a problem with that, and at least where I'm at JCB acceptance should continue to gain ground.  Figure whenever I get to the point I have to zealously micromanage my balances again, worst case I just leave that card as the balance reporter.  

 

After reading some of the approval stats from other people going to take a swing at this post mortgage; other than the mortgage inquiries looks like I match what they're looking for score and income wise, and if it's manually underwritten, they'll look at the inquiries and know what's up rather than some automated systems which frankly may have a suck implementation Cat Tongue

 

Apparently can't pay Federal taxes with it though Smiley Happy.


 

Revelate is correct in acceptance of the card, its generally hit and miss, more miss.  IMO card is over hyped.  Poor earning structure, poor acceptance, poor online management of card, and low limits.  


I just want to ride the free trolley through Waikiki with the cute Japanese chicks... Smiley Very Happy

Message 23 of 28
UncleB
Credit Mentor

Re: JCB Card Quick Question


@hiro905 wrote:

@Revelate wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

This card should be accepted anywhere that takes Discover, right?

 

Also, having to mail a paper app probably means you have to mail paper checks to them (or have your bank's bill pay do so for you) I'm betting. I don't know how I feel about that.


It's not; in person transactions work OK depending on area, online is terribly hit or miss as apparently it's not a default option to turn on for the usual Discover merchant account settings, or otherwise some were setup before the reciprocity agreement was established and then never updated.  

 

FT had a good writeup or two on it if you're willing to search for it.

 

As for bill pay to pay it, for me I don't have a problem with that, and at least where I'm at JCB acceptance should continue to gain ground.  Figure whenever I get to the point I have to zealously micromanage my balances again, worst case I just leave that card as the balance reporter.  

 

After reading some of the approval stats from other people going to take a swing at this post mortgage; other than the mortgage inquiries looks like I match what they're looking for score and income wise, and if it's manually underwritten, they'll look at the inquiries and know what's up rather than some automated systems which frankly may have a suck implementation Cat Tongue

 

Apparently can't pay Federal taxes with it though Smiley Happy.


 

Revelate is correct in acceptance of the card, its generally hit and miss, more miss.  IMO card is over hyped.  Poor earning structure, poor acceptance, poor online management of card, and low limits.  


I agree, but I think there's several things about it that make it desirable to many folks. 

 

It's a bit 'exclusive' since they don't advertise, they restrict new applications to just a few states, and they manually underwrite all applications, making it unavailable to many people.  Also, since it's seldom seen 'in the wild', it's likely to generate conversation when it's used, unlike most cards.  Heck, if nothing else, in most places a JCB cardholder will likely have to explain to many cashiers (if not most) that it swipes as a Discover, and some people enjoy this interaction.  And, the rewards are rather good, if a cardholder is able to get by with a low credit limit, at least relative to many other card issuers.

 

And finally, the Marukai version of the card is quite attractive... it definitely stands out in a crowd.  Smiley Happy

Message 24 of 28
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: JCB Card Quick Question


@hiro905 wrote:

@Revelate wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

This card should be accepted anywhere that takes Discover, right?

 

Also, having to mail a paper app probably means you have to mail paper checks to them (or have your bank's bill pay do so for you) I'm betting. I don't know how I feel about that.


It's not; in person transactions work OK depending on area, online is terribly hit or miss as apparently it's not a default option to turn on for the usual Discover merchant account settings, or otherwise some were setup before the reciprocity agreement was established and then never updated.  

 

FT had a good writeup or two on it if you're willing to search for it.

 

As for bill pay to pay it, for me I don't have a problem with that, and at least where I'm at JCB acceptance should continue to gain ground.  Figure whenever I get to the point I have to zealously micromanage my balances again, worst case I just leave that card as the balance reporter.  

 

After reading some of the approval stats from other people going to take a swing at this post mortgage; other than the mortgage inquiries looks like I match what they're looking for score and income wise, and if it's manually underwritten, they'll look at the inquiries and know what's up rather than some automated systems which frankly may have a suck implementation Cat Tongue

 

Apparently can't pay Federal taxes with it though Smiley Happy.


 

Revelate is correct in acceptance of the card, its generally hit and miss, more miss.  IMO card is over hyped.  Poor earning structure, poor acceptance, poor online management of card, and low limits.  


Out of curiosity I wrote something to generate the amount of cash back earned for both the Marukai card and the Double Cash based on annual spend. Both cards give the same CB at the $5000 mark once the former card's AF ($25 assuming you don't already have a membership) is taken into account. DC earns more below $5k in spend while the Marukai card earns more above $5k. Of course, the other disadvantages still hold.

Message 25 of 28
Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: JCB Card Quick Question


@Anonymous wrote:

@hiro905 wrote:

@Revelate wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

This card should be accepted anywhere that takes Discover, right?

 

Also, having to mail a paper app probably means you have to mail paper checks to them (or have your bank's bill pay do so for you) I'm betting. I don't know how I feel about that.


It's not; in person transactions work OK depending on area, online is terribly hit or miss as apparently it's not a default option to turn on for the usual Discover merchant account settings, or otherwise some were setup before the reciprocity agreement was established and then never updated.  

 

FT had a good writeup or two on it if you're willing to search for it.

 

As for bill pay to pay it, for me I don't have a problem with that, and at least where I'm at JCB acceptance should continue to gain ground.  Figure whenever I get to the point I have to zealously micromanage my balances again, worst case I just leave that card as the balance reporter.  

 

After reading some of the approval stats from other people going to take a swing at this post mortgage; other than the mortgage inquiries looks like I match what they're looking for score and income wise, and if it's manually underwritten, they'll look at the inquiries and know what's up rather than some automated systems which frankly may have a suck implementation Cat Tongue

 

Apparently can't pay Federal taxes with it though Smiley Happy.


 

Revelate is correct in acceptance of the card, its generally hit and miss, more miss.  IMO card is over hyped.  Poor earning structure, poor acceptance, poor online management of card, and low limits.  


Out of curiosity I wrote something to generate the amount of cash back earned for both the Marukai card and the Double Cash based on annual spend. Both cards give the same CB at the $5000 mark once the former card's AF ($25 assuming you don't already have a membership) is taken into account. DC earns more below $5k in spend while the Marukai card earns more above $5k. Of course, the other disadvantages still hold.


Sounds about right, I just keep this thread bookmarked Smiley Happy.

 

http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Cards/Cash-Back-credit-card-charts/td-p/4004725




        
Message 26 of 28
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: JCB Card Quick Question

Online payments are easy once you set them up. It takes a few weeks for your bank info to be added to the site which goes through a manual verification process. Everything is manual with this card. The online experience is similar to other cards with most of the same functions, however, the interface is very different. JCB is interesting in that you can use it for more global type transaction without first having to call the bank to approve. I used it for an international purchase recently and when other cards were denied due to automatic fraud protection my JCB went through. In another 2 months I am going to see about a CLI and I'll let the forum know how it goes.
Message 27 of 28
UncleB
Credit Mentor

Re: JCB Card Quick Question


@Anonymous wrote:
Online payments are easy once you set them up. It takes a few weeks for your bank info to be added to the site which goes through a manual verification process. Everything is manual with this card. The online experience is similar to other cards with most of the same functions, however, the interface is very different. JCB is interesting in that you can use it for more global type transaction without first having to call the bank to approve. I used it for an international purchase recently and when other cards were denied due to automatic fraud protection my JCB went through. In another 2 months I am going to see about a CLI and I'll let the forum know how it goes.

This is interesting to know.  I have found Capital One to be the same (yes, that Capital One).

 

The first time I made a foreign purchase, I did a secure chat to let them know I was going to make a purchase from a Canadian web site, and they CSR seemed genuinely confused as to why I was contacting them.  I went ahead and made the purchase, and it went though with no problem.  Since then, I've made a few purchases from an Australian company (months apart, and even on different Capital One cards), which went through seamlessly without me contacting them. 

 

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