@FICOdawg wrote:
@Realist wrote:It's not hard guys. Just because you can't, doesn't mean others can't. It just goes to show you that some people aren't ready, and quite frankly, I don't think I've been known to be dishonest on these forums. It does make me question why even attempt to help anyone here - when they outright show some hostility back. I'd like to think I put quite a bit of time into my posts, posting much information for other peoples benefit. I don't even have to waste that time. But, I am not going to hand hold either.
You can acquire two nights for 95,000 points per night at peak times per year, and two more rooms using the free certs. Each room is approximately valued at $750-$780 per night, plus you toss on fees and tax. $3500. This location is driveable within the US. There are many locations just like it all across the US. Obviously it's not Hawaii or Maldives, or any other exotic location you can't drive to. The flight alone would make the trip null, and wipe out the valuation entirely.
I LIVED in a Marriott branded property in Asia for 4 straight years. I'm pretty sure I've figure out how hotel programs function by now.
Of course you can take low season point values or use a cert but there is no mysterious secret code to this.
You first have to earn the points to use them. That's the kicker. In my case I travel a lot and pay attention to deals like a bonus every 2 nights stay so I make the effort to change hotels to maximize the points. It really adds up over a year and worth effort.
Hey @FICOdawg thanks for the input, missed your reply as others chimed in. I can appreciate anyones input without having to stand in opposition. Clearly you have unique experiences others don't. Some lean more Hilton, some Marriot, some Wyndham, Sonesta, Choice, Hyatt, and some - all of the above. I think I don't hold a Hyatt or Choice account - yet. Different experiences are going to warrant different responses. Every response should be considered.
Have you figured out the valuation and strategies that differ from Hilton and Marriot? I'll ask one simple question, it's important. Are you allowed to hold two of the same Marriot cards simultainously? The short answer is yes. The correct answer is not to employ much of a strategic opportunity.
This question, is why I won't disclose certain information. I'm speaking plainly, not directed at you.
Do people feel they are entitled to run up at 99% of the race, to sit in on the last 1%, and gain all the glory and benefits the entire race provides? Yeah I don't play that game either.
@Realist wrote:No more hand holding on this. There is a reason why I'm not providing certain information. That information excels well beyond just understanding this stuff. I mentioned about complex strategies. You guys aren't even ready for this, so I'm not disclosing any of that. That's the stuff I keep close to my chest.
Three or four people in this thread knew with absolute authority, that this wasn't possible, and yet, I've shown it clearly is. Most people don't understand, which is why most people don't enjoy these kinds of opportunities. Start with the basics, grow and learn with time. You don't get to run to the finish line and expect to simply know. That's not a plan, nor is it progression. You skip over the entire part called growth and learning.
Someone else can chime in if they want, because I know someone may have come across this image at some point in time on their Hilton searches. It's a heck of a place to stay. Very enjoyable. The timeframe was late July, peak timeframe. Take your pick, east coast, west coast, or down south, these opportunities are all over. There's a few a drive away from you.
You cannot use free night certificates for suites, strictly prohibited, they are only for standard rooms. Plus, no condos because timeshare resorts are restricted.
So that stay will cost you 380,000 points and that's a .007 redemption rate, smart guy.....How much do you have to spend to get the extra 195,000 points or what does the standard rooms cost in dollars and points to use the certificates?
Yes, getting two cards in a row for the sub can work but you are one and done because you will need to spend $30,000 for an extra night with the Aspire card or only get one night for spending $15,000 on the Surpass card and for standard rooms.
Hilton really doesn't offer a value proposition after using the subs. Also, who wants to stay in a standard room for 4 days 😁
I know, everyone is watching.
@redpat wrote:So how much did you spend to accumulate 380,000 or 180,000 additional points if you didn't or did burn your sub points and also, were you moved to a standard room for the sixth night? If you were moved to a standard room how much was it?
I suspect that moving rooms every day or so (essentially making multiple bookings) may be part of his strategy. No big deal if that's true, but I don't get why he isn't willing to share. Perhaps he even moves to different hotel properties mid trip. Also, I'm guessing he may use free certs for Friday & Saturday nights and points for Mondays and Tuesdays. Those days of the week tend to be cheaper at a lot of hotels. But, again, why won't he share his strategies?
