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Does a lender frown upon you for constantly charging and PIF multiple times throughout the month just to avoid going over your UTI?
I find myself doing this quite a bit with my QS card since it only has a $500 limit... I know others say its ok to max it out and pay it off before it reports but I dont charge more than 20% EVER. I'll just pay it off then charge another 20% then repeat. Could this affect future CLI's?
I cant speak for any other lender but when my Cap one Journey had a 500 limit (first credit card) I charged it up multiple times and paid in full three times a month. I than got an auto CLI to 3k.
Thats good to know how much UTI would you put on it before PIF? Also how long did it take to get that Auto CLI?
@TheFate wrote:Does a lender frown upon you for constantly charging and PIF multiple times throughout the month just to avoid going over your UTI?
I find myself doing this quite a bit with my QS card since it only has a $500 limit... I know others say its ok to max it out and pay it off before it reports but I dont charge more than 20% EVER. I'll just pay it off then charge another 20% then repeat. Could this affect future CLI's?
I often wondered about this. I would think that they don't care, so long as you are using their card? BUT, I am wondering since I did this with Discover and Chase for a year and they won't give a CLI, it does make me wonder more. I would pay in full every two weeks, sometimes even in between. It was/is just the way I budget spending money more comfortably.
“Beware of little expenses. A small leak will sink a great ship” – Benjamin Franklin
Gardening since 3-26-15
@VirtualCuriosity wrote:
@TheFate wrote:Does a lender frown upon you for constantly charging and PIF multiple times throughout the month just to avoid going over your UTI?
I find myself doing this quite a bit with my QS card since it only has a $500 limit... I know others say its ok to max it out and pay it off before it reports but I dont charge more than 20% EVER. I'll just pay it off then charge another 20% then repeat. Could this affect future CLI's?
I often wondered about this. I would think that they don't care, so long as you are using their card? BUT, I am wondering since I did this with Discover and Chase for a year and they won't give a CLI, it does make me wonder more. I would pay in full every two weeks, sometimes even in between. It was/is just the way I budget spending money more comfortably.
It's seriously hard to predict how any lender will react to things in their data; however, they can and quite possibly will notice.
I'm not a fan of the multiple payments during a month (unless you're maxxing the card out multiple times, by all means PIF multiple times and badger the lender for a CLI while you're at it) as the vast majority of consumers simply don't do that.
That said, there's things that lenders hate a lot more, and I suspect this one is between somewhat and utterly trivial in comparison: maybe worth a *shrug* by an UW looking at it, but likely not much more than that though in an infinite universe and not knowing what their data shows, meh... I simply don't want lender attention and that's likely a peculiarity instrinsic to me: nothing to see here, exactly what you expect, move along!
Edit: on the plus side their data might show that you're at less risk of default, but if I had to guess, it probably is more indicative of paycheck to paycheck behavior.
I had a $2k secured card that I was running about $3-4k per month through. I was paying it frequently, sometimes twice per week because it reported right after all of my bills were due. I did this for a year, and then it became a partially secured card with $2,500, and a year after that it became fully unsecured with a $5k CL. Every time I asked for an increase, I stated my case that I wanted to show them I was responsible and always knew what was on my card since I was primarily using it instead of my debit card. It also helped me establish a better relationship with them because I made my payments in person. This was with a CU though, but paying multiple times per month and running as much as I could through the card did help me get where I am today.
To go along with what the OP was asking I have a spinoff question. I put as many auto pay options I could on my new cap 1 cards to show some action along with paying for everything with the plastic. Then each Monday I pay whatever the balance is down to $10 so the cards will report something. Is that a good philosphy? Or should I have them report more? The $10 is not even1% utilization, but it's something. So in all reality I'll be paying 4-5 times per month on each card. Thoughts?
@Revelate wrote:
@VirtualCuriosity wrote:
@TheFate wrote:Does a lender frown upon you for constantly charging and PIF multiple times throughout the month just to avoid going over your UTI?
I find myself doing this quite a bit with my QS card since it only has a $500 limit... I know others say its ok to max it out and pay it off before it reports but I dont charge more than 20% EVER. I'll just pay it off then charge another 20% then repeat. Could this affect future CLI's?
I often wondered about this. I would think that they don't care, so long as you are using their card? BUT, I am wondering since I did this with Discover and Chase for a year and they won't give a CLI, it does make me wonder more. I would pay in full every two weeks, sometimes even in between. It was/is just the way I budget spending money more comfortably.
It's seriously hard to predict how any lender will react to things in their data; however, they can and quite possibly will notice.
I'm not a fan of the multiple payments during a month (unless you're maxxing the card out multiple times, by all means PIF multiple times and badger the lender for a CLI while you're at it) as the vast majority of consumers simply don't do that.
That said, there's things that lenders hate a lot more, and I suspect this one is between somewhat and utterly trivial in comparison: maybe worth a *shrug* by an UW looking at it, but likely not much more than that though in an infinite universe and not knowing what their data shows, meh... I simply don't want lender attention and that's likely a peculiarity instrinsic to me: nothing to see here, exactly what you expect, move along!
Edit: on the plus side their data might show that you're at less risk of default, but if I had to guess, it probably is more indicative of paycheck to paycheck behavior.
Good points and yes, we purely speculate. I will however disagree with multiple payments being indicitive of pay to pay behavior. If there is notice to be taken at least in my case and many others I read about, I think you are right. But, I think the reason may be more related to them recognizing who is only gaining rewards and not showing them luv in monthly charges.
“Beware of little expenses. A small leak will sink a great ship” – Benjamin Franklin
Gardening since 3-26-15