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Drifter73
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Offshore Personal Credit Cards available to U.S. Citizens

I wasn't able to find a dedicated topic to offshore credit lines for U.S. citizens,  so I figured I would start one.

 

The majority I've looked at use the same payment networks (e.g. mastercard, Amex, visa), but are Geo fenced to specific country residents.

 

A few, open the doors to personal credit lines to citizens of other countries, effectively making them a technical offshore lender.

 

The 3 I'm looking at currently are:

 

HSBC Premier (UK)
RBC Rewards (CA)
Barclay AARP (UK)

 

There's more, but it seems the U.S. has the best cb and rewards programs.

 

Aside from the weak rewards using an offshore credit lender, the benefit (hypothetically) is that an offshore account may be an emergency option, even using the same payment networks. In the event the u.s. economy tanks and/or u.s. based credit lines become unstable (e.g. like what's happening with Comenity).

 

In that perspective, does it make sense to have a couple offshore credit cards (just in case)?

 

And if so, who are some other credit lenders offshore from the U.S. that cater to u.s. citizens that i didn't list above?

 

Note: There's lots for international business, but I'm only interested in Personal Credit lines, not business loopholes. 











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C6
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Re: Offshore Personal Credit Cards available to U.S. Citizens

I think you will be running into a wall trying to get a personal credit card issed by a reputable bank. There are many reporting requirements for US citizens and most banks don't want to deal with them. I still have credit and banking from when I was living offshore, and even then they were hard to get. If you're worried about the US failing buy gold and keep your cash under your matress. 

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Drifter73
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Re: Offshore Personal Credit Cards available to U.S. Citizens

A few of the larger lenders within the top 50 largest asset portfolios internationally, seem to not be too hard to set up a credit line with (e.g. Barclay's).

 

Others look like titanium plated walls to run into (agreed).

 

Just interested in 1 or 2 offshore credit lines (for piece of mind), which I can accomplish with what I found so far.

 

I suppose I was hoping there were some Expats/Nomads browsing that may have some dealings with lenders I missed in my initial research run to look at.











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core
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If things are that bad that NONE of your USA-based cards are working, I'm wondering if your UK-based Visa/MC will fare any better?  Plus, if things are really that bad, what are you planning on buying?  Seems a bad time to go out and buy a new color TV set, if all the banks in the entire country go Tango Uniform.

 

For your groceries/gas/clothing/essentials, you could always, you know, "pay for it"?  *gasp*

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Drifter73
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Re: Offshore Personal Credit Cards available to U.S. Citizens


@core wrote:

If things are that bad that NONE of your USA-based cards are working, I'm wondering if your UK-based Visa/MC will fare any better?  Plus, if things are really that bad, what are you planning on buying?  Seems a bad time to go out and buy a new color TV set, if all the banks in the entire country go Tango Uniform.

 

For your groceries/gas/clothing/essentials, you could always, you know, "pay for it"?  *gasp*


Yes, paying for it in full each transaction or statement is an essential key to credit building, however. I'm onto the next set of goals now.

 

Since I already pif (cash or credit), have Retirement accounts set up, multiple revenue streams coming in, multiple direct deposit sources automated, and generally stay well under 15% Utilization, next on my list is a PLOC (which should be in Feb 2023) and initiating offshore relationships that could grow or scale into something more meaningful.

 

I'm not suggesting an offshore credit line to avoid paying cash. But more for plan C contingency and relationship building.











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C6
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Re: Offshore Personal Credit Cards available to U.S. Citizens

The last time I checked HSBC would open an account if you were living offshore with a minimum deposit of 100 - 150k.

In the UK one could get an account at Lloyds but as I said it's for expats primarily.

DBS in Singapore use to require 1 million and the same is probably true for HK banks.

I had an account in HK but after China too over they cracked down and it was closed.

As far as getting a credit line be prepared to have a substantial deposit. It's not like in the US.

 

 

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Guyatthebeach
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Re: Offshore Personal Credit Cards available to U.S. Citizens

Drifter73,

 

Unless you plan on parking a large amount of money in a deposit, it will be very hard to get an offshore credit card. I contacted Dubai First about getting a MC(not the one with the diamond) with them, and I was told I would have to maintain a balance of $100,000 with them. I would also have to have UAE mailing address.

 

I personally would stay away from HBSC and Barclay. If they aren't good over here, I doubt they will be better offshore.  RBC may be an option.

 

Keep us posted.

 

Guyatthebeach 

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Anonymous
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Re: Offshore Personal Credit Cards available to U.S. Citizens


@Drifter73 wrote:

I wasn't able to find a dedicated topic to offshore credit lines for U.S. citizens,  so I figured I would start one.

 

The majority I've looked at use the same payment networks (e.g. mastercard, Amex, visa), but are Geo fenced to specific country residents.

 

A few, open the doors to personal credit lines to citizens of other countries, effectively making them a technical offshore lender.

 

The 3 I'm looking at currently are:

 

HSBC Premier (UK)
RBC Rewards (CA)
Barclay AARP (UK)

 

 


Where do you see Barclays AARP in the UK?   They certainly do offshore banking, with US being covered, but needs the GBP 100K minimum.

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Drifter73
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Re: Offshore Personal Credit Cards available to U.S. Citizens


@Anonymous wrote:

@Drifter73 wrote:

I wasn't able to find a dedicated topic to offshore credit lines for U.S. citizens,  so I figured I would start one.

 

The majority I've looked at use the same payment networks (e.g. mastercard, Amex, visa), but are Geo fenced to specific country residents.

 

A few, open the doors to personal credit lines to citizens of other countries, effectively making them a technical offshore lender.

 

The 3 I'm looking at currently are:

 

HSBC Premier (UK)
RBC Rewards (CA)
Barclay AARP (UK)

 

 


Where do you see Barclays AARP in the UK?   They certainly do offshore banking, with US being covered, but needs the GBP 100K minimum.


Barclay's is headquarted in London, which technically makes them a UK based institution. The AARP Travel Rewards card is the only one in their lineup that interests me and other than being a technical offshore lender for me. I liked the 3% travel category that covers campgrounds and rv parks.

 

Though I'm starting to hear more people suggesting to avoid Barclay's. So may dig deeper into RBC Canada and scan a few other countries with long lasting treaties with u.s.

 

Here's a direct link to the Barclay's AARP I was referring to that you requested to see: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/banking/cards/aarp-travel-rewards-mastercard/











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Anonymous
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Re: Offshore Personal Credit Cards available to U.S. Citizens


@Drifter73 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Drifter73 wrote:

I wasn't able to find a dedicated topic to offshore credit lines for U.S. citizens,  so I figured I would start one.

 

The majority I've looked at use the same payment networks (e.g. mastercard, Amex, visa), but are Geo fenced to specific country residents.

 

A few, open the doors to personal credit lines to citizens of other countries, effectively making them a technical offshore lender.

 

The 3 I'm looking at currently are:

 

HSBC Premier (UK)
RBC Rewards (CA)
Barclay AARP (UK)

 

 


Where do you see Barclays AARP in the UK?   They certainly do offshore banking, with US being covered, but needs the GBP 100K minimum.


Barclay's is headquarted in London, which technically makes them a UK based institution. The AARP Travel Rewards card is the only one in their lineup that interests me and other than being a technical offshore lender for me. I liked the 3% travel category that covers campgrounds and rv parks.

 

Though I'm starting to hear more people suggesting to avoid Barclay's. So may dig deeper into RBC Canada and scan a few other countries with long lasting treaties with u.s.

 

Here's a direct link to the Barclay's AARP I was referring to that you requested to see: https://cards.barclaycardus.com/banking/cards/aarp-travel-rewards-mastercard/


OK, so that's the standard card from Barclays US, which really isn't an offshore account in the usual meaning.  (Barclays PLC bought a US issuer and rebranded it Barclays US, and this could be sold to another US issuer just as easily)  Barclays really does offshore banking for US residents, but as noted, it needs a lot of money!

 

Take Barclays (or indeed almost any issuer) complaints here with the usual grain of salt.  They have had some GREAT cards which they nerfed, but a number of rival issuers have never had such great cards at all, so which is worse!   Yes, people have experienced closures for the usual "no reason!!!!!!" but a number of us are happy with them

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