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Optimizing FICO score with a charge card?

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CBTS
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Optimizing FICO score with a charge card?

In order to optimize the FICO score, can I let only my charge card report a balance, and all the revolving cards with $0 balance? Or does the balance have to be on one of the revolvers?

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myjourney
Super Contributor

Re: Optimizing FICO score with a charge card?


@Anonymous- wrote:

In order to optimize the FICO score, can I let only my charge card report a balance, and all the revolving cards with $0 balance? Or does the balance has to be on one of the revolvers?


Works on either one you choose 

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Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
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CBTS
Frequent Contributor

Re: Optimizing FICO score with a charge card?

It's a bit confusing to understand how charge cards work with the FICO scoring system. I figured, if the charge cards don't have any impact whatsoever on utility, it might be a good idea to let a balance report on a revolver as well. Guess I was wrong.

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myjourney
Super Contributor

Re: Optimizing FICO score with a charge card?


@Anonymous- wrote:

It's a bit confusing to understand how charge cards work with the FICO scoring system. I figured, if the charge cards don't have any impact whatsoever on utility, it might be a good idea to let a balance report on a revolver as well. Guess I was wrong.


Even tho its a charge card in fico eyes its still revolving credit ....I know even tho you can't carry a balance you have 30 days to pay your bill

Before you app think...
Have you done your research of the CC?
Does it fit your spending?
Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
Can you afford the AF?
Do you know the cards benefits? Is it worth the HP?
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CBTS
Frequent Contributor

Re: Optimizing FICO score with a charge card?

After reading the countless threads on how charge cards affect the FICO score, it's pretty obvious that they don't have any effect on utlization at all. So, is it safe to say that a charge card reporting a balance of, say, $1000 and the revolvers of $0, equals to 0% utility? If this is in fact the case, wouldn't it be better, for scoring purposes, to show the 1-9% utility on one of the revolvers (in addition to the $1000 on the charge card)?

 

I think I might be reading too much into this. What's still unclear to me is how the charge cards don't affect the util. but they're still going to be counted as an account that I owe money on, hence lowering my score if I owe to 2 accounts versus just 1.

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wHiTeSoL
Valued Contributor

Re: Optimizing FICO score with a charge card?


@Anonymous- wrote:

After reading the countless threads on how charge cards affect the FICO score, it's pretty obvious that they don't have any effect on utlization at all. So, is it safe to say that a charge card reporting a balance of, say, $1000 and the revolvers of $0, equals to 0% utility? If this is in fact the case, wouldn't it be better, for scoring purposes, to show the 1-9% utility on one of the revolvers (in addition to the $1000 on the charge card)?

 

I think I might be reading too much into this. What's still unclear to me is how the charge cards don't affect the util. but they're still going to be counted as an account that I owe money on, hence lowering my score if I owe to 2 accounts versus just 1.


From what I understand it doesn't could towards utility BUT it does count towards having another card with a balance. The best was to optimize your Fico score is to only have 1 card (charge or not) reporting a balance of 1-9%

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ryanbush
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Re: Optimizing FICO score with a charge card?


@wHiTeSoL wrote:

@Anonymous- wrote:

After reading the countless threads on how charge cards affect the FICO score, it's pretty obvious that they don't have any effect on utlization at all. So, is it safe to say that a charge card reporting a balance of, say, $1000 and the revolvers of $0, equals to 0% utility? If this is in fact the case, wouldn't it be better, for scoring purposes, to show the 1-9% utility on one of the revolvers (in addition to the $1000 on the charge card)?

 

I think I might be reading too much into this. What's still unclear to me is how the charge cards don't affect the util. but they're still going to be counted as an account that I owe money on, hence lowering my score if I owe to 2 accounts versus just 1.


From what I understand it doesn't could towards utility BUT it does count towards having another card with a balance. The best was to optimize your Fico score is to only have 1 card (charge or not) reporting a balance of 1-9%


How do you make a charge card report a balance between 1-9%?

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wHiTeSoL
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Re: Optimizing FICO score with a charge card?


@ryanbush wrote:

@wHiTeSoL wrote:

@Anonymous- wrote:

After reading the countless threads on how charge cards affect the FICO score, it's pretty obvious that they don't have any effect on utlization at all. So, is it safe to say that a charge card reporting a balance of, say, $1000 and the revolvers of $0, equals to 0% utility? If this is in fact the case, wouldn't it be better, for scoring purposes, to show the 1-9% utility on one of the revolvers (in addition to the $1000 on the charge card)?

 

I think I might be reading too much into this. What's still unclear to me is how the charge cards don't affect the util. but they're still going to be counted as an account that I owe money on, hence lowering my score if I owe to 2 accounts versus just 1.


From what I understand it doesn't could towards utility BUT it does count towards having another card with a balance. The best was to optimize your Fico score is to only have 1 card (charge or not) reporting a balance of 1-9%


How do you make a charge card report a balance between 1-9%?


You dont but lets hope this clears it up

 

Scenerio 1

1. Revolver $100 balance $2000 limit = 5%

2. Revolver 0 Balance $1000 limit = 0%

3. Charge $50 balance NPSL

 

Total 3% Utl 2 cards reporting balance

 

 

 

Scenerio 2

1. Revolver $100 balance $2000 limit = 5%

2. Revolver 0 Balance $1000 limit = 0%

3. Charge $0 balance NPSL

 

Total 3% Utl 1 card reporting balance

 

Scenerio 2 will yeild you a better Fico score.

 

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DaveSignal
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Re: Optimizing FICO score with a charge card?

I could be wrong, but I don't think that the score boost is specifically from having util at 1-9%.    It is actually the combination of having one card show use (you have active accounts) AND you have extremely low utilization.  If you have extremely low utilization, but are not showing use (all accounts are at $0), then it appears as though you are not actively using your credit.

 

An NPSL charge card showing a balance (any balance) and 0% util on your credit cards accomplishes the same goal.

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CBTS
Frequent Contributor

Re: Optimizing FICO score with a charge card?


@wHiTeSoL wrote:

@ryanbush wrote:

@wHiTeSoL wrote:

@Anonymous- wrote:

After reading the countless threads on how charge cards affect the FICO score, it's pretty obvious that they don't have any effect on utlization at all. So, is it safe to say that a charge card reporting a balance of, say, $1000 and the revolvers of $0, equals to 0% utility? If this is in fact the case, wouldn't it be better, for scoring purposes, to show the 1-9% utility on one of the revolvers (in addition to the $1000 on the charge card)?

 

I think I might be reading too much into this. What's still unclear to me is how the charge cards don't affect the util. but they're still going to be counted as an account that I owe money on, hence lowering my score if I owe to 2 accounts versus just 1.


From what I understand it doesn't could towards utility BUT it does count towards having another card with a balance. The best was to optimize your Fico score is to only have 1 card (charge or not) reporting a balance of 1-9%


How do you make a charge card report a balance between 1-9%?


You dont but lets hope this clears it up

 

Scenerio 1

1. Revolver $100 balance $2000 limit = 5%

2. Revolver 0 Balance $1000 limit = 0%

3. Charge $50 balance NPSL

 

Total 3% Utl 2 cards reporting balance

 

 

 

Scenerio 2

1. Revolver $100 balance $2000 limit = 5%

2. Revolver 0 Balance $1000 limit = 0%

3. Charge $0 balance NPSL

 

Total 3% Utl 1 card reporting balance

 

Scenerio 2 will yeild you a better Fico score.

 


So how about a scenario 3 with :

 

1. Revolver $0 balance, $2000 limit = 0%

2. Revolver $0 balance, $1000 limit = 0%

3. Charge $1000 balance, NPSL.

 

Will this necessarily have the exact outcome as Scenario 2?

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