Per DoC Citi DC “points” transfer to TYP

[Anonymous]

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@K-in-Boston wrote:

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@ToxikPH wrote:

My main thing is the transfer partners, are there any good transfers for domestic travel? Also, doubt I could personally get much use out of it as Amex has me covered on almost all fronts.

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Just using Delta as an example, I mentioned Flying Blue (KLM/Air France) and Virgin Atlantic earlier.  The caveat with Virgin Atlantic is that if it's not a direct flight, the value might not be as good since there is a per-segment number of miles needed.  I'll pick a transcontinental example using two Delta hubs: BOS and SEA.  Keep in mind that FlyingBlue and Virgin Flying Club are transfer partners of every major points program, in addition to being very close Delta partners.  Just picking a 1 week round-trip in the first week of January as an example:

Delta $456 in Main Cabin or $1450 in First

• Booked with MRs through Amex portal: 45,600 Main (1.00 cpp) or 145,000 First (1.00 cpp)
• Booked with TYPs through Citi portal with Premier: 36,480 Main (1.25 cpp) or 116,000 First (1.25 cpp)
• Booked with URs through Chase portal with CSP: 36,480 Main (1.25 cpp) or 116,000 First (1.25 cpp)
• Booked with URs through Chase portal with CSR: 30,400 Main (1.50 cpp) or 96,667 First (1.50 cpp)
• Booked with SkyMiles: 33,500 Main (1.36 cpm) and 112,500 First (1.29 cpm)
• Booked with FlyingBlue via Air France: 29,000 Main (1.57 cpm) and 72,000 First (2.01 cpm)
• Booked with Virgin Flying Club: 25,000 Main (1.82 cpm) and 45,000 First (3.22 cpm)

As you can see, for Delta award fares on direct domestic flights Virgin and Air France/KLM are often the way to go.  I'm a SkyTeam person, but I am sure among the other alliances there are also sweet spots with TYPs.

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Im a skyteam guy too, but do be aware of the price variations among different airlines.

e.g., the same trip can be had for $300 (Jan 5-11) on Jetblue. Thats 20733 UR on CSR, if using 456 as assumed fare, that comes to be 2.19cpp.

When you live near a large hub, the loyalty value to an airline is somewhat reduced.

[Anonymous]

newest info is if you dont have premier or prestige or chairman (not sure what this one is), you can transfer to jetblue at 1:0.8.

[Anonymous]

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@Anonymous wrote:
Doc now reporting it's 1:1.

This is a massive game changer, DC will be ahead of cfu, ppmc, nfcu.

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Caution ... can't imagine Citi giving us more real benefits. Seriously doubtful

Actually hard for me to be negative on Citi Bank as they were the first real lender to give me a start after the big bad one and they offered me lots of card opportunities when everyone else hesitated! Today, it seems they have lost the competitive spirit or the others are just running harder for the lead?!

[SouthJamaica]

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@FieryDance wrote:
What would be a good Citi Trifecta? I am thinking Premier and Rewards+ and Double Cash.

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We can't say until Citi finally unveils what the thankyou points from the DC will be worth.

Also, Citi isn't equivalent to Chase in all respects. Citi won't always give you SUB if you open a new card in the TYP universe. I would like the Rewards+ card, but I can't get the signup bonus until 24 mos. after my Premier card was opened.

[SouthJamaica]

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@Anonymous wrote:

newest info is if you dont have premier or prestige or chairman (not sure what this one is), you can transfer to jetblue at 1:0.8.

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Here's what it is at present:

I don't know how the DC points will factor into this. And I don't know if there's a way to eliminate the 2nd class status of certain points by pooling with them with 1st class points.

[Anonymous]

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@FieryDance wrote:
What would be a good Citi Trifecta? I am thinking Premier and Rewards+ and Double Cash.

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Don't know why there has to be a Trifecta.  After all, if there was a single card giving say 40% cashback on all purchases, we probably wouldn't be discussing what card to pair with it.   OK, on myfico we would!

[wasCB14]

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@Anonymous wrote:

newest info is if you dont have premier or prestige or chairman (not sure what this one is), you can transfer to jetblue at 1:0.8.

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It's a card for Citi private banking customers. There is limited public information about it, as the card went through a few changes (MC and Amex versions with different features) and most of the threads discussing it are from 2008-2011.

[coldfusion]

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@Anonymous wrote:

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@FieryDance wrote:
What would be a good Citi Trifecta? I am thinking Premier and Rewards+ and Double Cash.

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Don't know why there has to be a Trifecta.  After all, if there was a single card giving say 40% cashback on all purchases, we probably wouldn't be discussing what card to pair with it.   OK, on myfico we would!

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That would depend upon the TYP payout on the DoubleCash. Something like Premier for travel/entertainment, Rewards+ for small purchases, and DC for unstructured spend (only) if it gave more than 1 TYP/$ reward. 

[coldfusion]

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@SouthJamaica wrote:

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@Anonymous wrote:

newest info is if you dont have premier or prestige or chairman (not sure what this one is), you can transfer to jetblue at 1:0.8.

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Here's what it is at present:

I don't know how the DC points will factor into this. And I don't know if there's a way to eliminate the 2nd class status of certain points by pooling with them with 1st class points.

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What do you mean by 2nd class and 1st class points? 

When they're pooled together Citi still tracks the source(s) and also the different expiration dates if some of the points have expiration dates,  but I've never seen any kind of differentiation in valuation when looking to redeem for travel. 

In fact I just went through a booking exercise for a business class RT ticket BOS <-> TPE which was priced as cash + miles.  Based on the pricing quoted my miles were all valued at 1.25 cents each, even though nearly 3/4 of them were earned via 10x bonus TYP targeted offers against my Sears Mastercard. 

Or am I missing something? 

[SouthJamaica]

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@coldfusion wrote:

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@SouthJamaica wrote:

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@Anonymous wrote:

newest info is if you dont have premier or prestige or chairman (not sure what this one is), you can transfer to jetblue at 1:0.8.

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Here's what it is at present:

I don't know how the DC points will factor into this. And I don't know if there's a way to eliminate the 2nd class status of certain points by pooling with them with 1st class points.

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What do you mean by 2nd class and 1st class points? 

When they're pooled together Citi still tracks the source(s) and also the different expiration dates if some of the points have expiration dates,  but I've never seen any kind of differentiation in valuation when looking to redeem for travel. 

In fact I just went through a booking exercise for a business class RT ticket BOS <-> TPE which was priced as cash + miles.  Based on the pricing quoted my miles were all valued at 1.25 cents each, even though nearly 3/4 of them were earned via 10x bonus TYP targeted offers against my Sears Mastercard. 

Or am I missing something? 

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I thought my screenshot said it all.

The points from the Preferred card and from the Rewards+ card are worth 8/10 of a TrueBlue point.

The points from the Premier and Prestige cards are worth 1 TrueBlue point.

To my mind that makes the points from the Preferred and Rewards+ cards second class citizens.