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ChesterPDexter
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Re: Please Explain 30-Day Float

I don't know who Bob Cratchit is and I never said anything about someone looking over transactions and marking them with a quill pen.  I also said I thought twice per month is not a problem.  I will only tell you what I heard although, regrettably, I don't remember where so I can't give a reference URL or anything or even attribute a source:

 

At some point I heard that it is not favorably looked-upon by creditors to pay a credit card bill, for example, once per week (which would equal four times per month or more.)  And I remember that the sentiment was that people who pay weekly may have irregular/scant income and pay bills whenever the money comes in as opposed to people of greater means who supposedly are better able to take care of bills once per month.

 

Don't shoot the messenger - do whatever has been working for you.  It's just something to keep in mind if it doesn't make a difference to you one way or the other.  It might not even be correct.  It might have been in reference to one particular issuer, also (like AMEX?)  Don't know; can't remember, but do clearly remember that someone expressed that either as a fact or an opinion at one point.  It may be total bunk, but there may be a grain of truth, although where and when that grain applies or applied is a mystery to me.

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Too many accounts; too many debts; lots of open credit, and lots of utilized credit. Scores somewhere in the 600s - I have no earthly idea exactly what number, but not 700 like it was, briefly.
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ChesterPDexter
Established Contributor

Re: Please Explain 30-Day Float

By the way, MarineVietVet had it exactly right:  Softs can be done and are done all the time, and I'd say keeping reports clean at all times will pay off.  Although it was unavoidable because we were in the middle of becoming able to pay off a large amount of debt, my husband got totally burned by being softed at exactly the wrong time (like, days before some huge payments posted.)  He was able to repair the damage a few months later for applying for new credit with the company who slashed his credit limit, but ideally, he would have been better off had he not been burned by the softing at the wrong time.  He might have gotten a CLI instead of a CLD as a result of that soft, had they done it just a few weeks later.

 

Moral of the story:  If it's within your power to keep your reports looking great, why not do it, then?  It's like keeping your living room neat so that when unexpected visitors drop in, they don't see that the table is a mess and the rug is un-vacuumed.

Smiley Happy

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Too many accounts; too many debts; lots of open credit, and lots of utilized credit. Scores somewhere in the 600s - I have no earthly idea exactly what number, but not 700 like it was, briefly.
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barbaralee
Established Contributor

Re: Please Explain 30-Day Float

Bob Cratchit is a reference to the overworked and underpaid clerk who worked for Scrooge in The Christmas Carol. Smiley Happy

 

I would discourage paying multiple times just because to me it sounds tedious, though what is bothersome to me is not necessarily to someone else. Smiley Wink Whatever the OP decides to do I would definitey encourage keeping the utilization low. I like mine no more than 30%, my SO is the same, but different strokes for different folks.

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haulingthescoreup
Moderator Emerita

Re: Please Explain 30-Day Float

 


@ChesterPDexter wrote:

I don't know who Bob Cratchit is and I never said anything about someone looking over transactions and marking them with a quill pen.  I also said I thought twice per month is not a problem.  I will only tell you what I heard although, regrettably, I don't remember where so I can't give a reference URL or anything or even attribute a source:

 

At some point I heard that it is not favorably looked-upon by creditors to pay a credit card bill, for example, once per week (which would equal four times per month or more.)  And I remember that the sentiment was that people who pay weekly may have irregular/scant income and pay bills whenever the money comes in as opposed to people of greater means who supposedly are better able to take care of bills once per month.

 

Don't shoot the messenger - do whatever has been working for you.  It's just something to keep in mind if it doesn't make a difference to you one way or the other.  It might not even be correct.  It might have been in reference to one particular issuer, also (like AMEX?)  Don't know; can't remember, but do clearly remember that someone expressed that either as a fact or an opinion at one point.  It may be total bunk, but there may be a grain of truth, although where and when that grain applies or applied is a mystery to me.


I apologize; I certainly didn't mean to offend! Smiley Surprised

* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
Message 44 of 49
ChesterPDexter
Established Contributor

Re: Please Explain 30-Day Float

I think it might have to do with the fact that transactions in which they collect a merchant fee are more favorably looked-upon than those which just use their resources (not quill pen, just computer) crediting payments; I'm sure they're glad to get paid, however.  (Side note:  Activity can be flagged although of course it's computerized - computer programs flag activity, too).  For the record, I make as many payments as I need to in order to get my bill paid and I've been known to make three when I have money available from three different sources (but not enough from any one source to pay off the bill, or when something has brought the balance back up and I want to pay it off.)  It's way more important to keep the account paid than to worry about how many payments are made to effect that goal.  It was just a minor point and obviously one that few think holds any water - that's fine; I was really referring to the behavior of paying every couple of days (I know someone who sends in less than a dollar at times via ACH transaction!), but apparently some do that and maybe it makes no difference.  I'm always just trying to help by passing along whatever nugget of information I heard.

 

Bob Cratchit sounded familiar and I looked it up about a second later; I kept thinking of Jed Clampitt (you know, and the bank... but he wasn't the banker, that was... well, Miss Hathaway comes to mind - she was the interesting one at the bank, right?) Smiley Wink

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Too many accounts; too many debts; lots of open credit, and lots of utilized credit. Scores somewhere in the 600s - I have no earthly idea exactly what number, but not 700 like it was, briefly.
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Anonymous
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Re: Please Explain 30-Day Float


@MarineVietVet wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

So, I don't worry about my utilization, or my score until I am planning to apply for credit.

 


Interesting!  I thought, from everything I've seen posted all throughout this website, that utilization was indeed one of THE RULES.   Of course, paying on time, every time, is a given, and is, without question, the most important number one RULE. 

 

If I read you right though Wolf, you're saying that keeping utilization below 9% is a TRICK that works with the FICO algorithms to boost or spike the FICO score, and that you only do this when you're interested in applying for more credit --- Wolf, you have taught this old dog a new trick!!! 

 

Thank you!

 

 


I look at this a little differently. All creditors (present and potential future ones) soft our reports all the time. If they see someone who carries high utilization from month to month the creditor might start wondering if the consumer could be in financial trouble because of a perceived perception they are unable to pay down balances. This nervousness by a creditor could lead to some kind of AA (Adverse Action).

 

Each creditor will decide for themselves what constitutes high utilization. There is no way for us to know what the threshold is for a particular creditor but I don't want to take the chance and that's why I try to keep all of my utilizations (both overall and individual) as low as possible. Once you do it awhile it's really not hard and to me It's not a burden at all.

 

Mine is just another view and in no way negates another opinion as being invalid.

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".


Well said! 

 

We debate this every few months, mostly for fun.  But I think it helps give people a better prespective so they can make a choice that fits their situation.

 

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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Please Explain 30-Day Float


@Anonymous wrote:

Well said! 

 

We debate this every few months, mostly for fun.  But I think it helps give people a better prespective so they can make a choice that fits their situation.

 


I agree. It has to come down to what each of us thinks will work (or seems to work) best in our own unique circumstance.

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Please Explain 30-Day Float


@MarineVietVet wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Well said! 

 

We debate this every few months, mostly for fun.  But I think it helps give people a better prespective so they can make a choice that fits their situation.

 


I agree. It has to come down to what each of us thinks will work (or seems to work) best in our own unique circumstance.

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".


The topic is "30 Day Float".   Paying before closing for utilization is the opposite of "Float".

 

I am a "Fan of the Float"

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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Please Explain 30-Day Float


@Anonymous wrote:
 

The topic is "30 Day Float".   Paying before closing for utilization is the opposite of "Float".

 

I am a "Fan of the Float"


I understand the concept and I'm not saying I've never done it. Earlier this year I floated a Discover charge for almost 2 months. All I'm saying is that if someone does this on too many accounts for too long the chances of creditors doing something adverse becomes too much of a risk. (For me at least).

 

Each of us has to decide what level of risk to take.

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

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