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iNathanDrake
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Question about AMEX Cards among other cards?

Hello everyone, I'm new to the forums and fairly new to the credit building world. I was hoping to get some better explained information regarding American Express cards and some of my other credit cards. It's a lot to read I know, so I'll seperate it by category so you can just read what you need.

 

Some minor background on myself and my cards and score

I'm currently 22, I work full time and am currently in possesion of 3 Credit Cards and 1 on it way in the mail for a total of 4 accounts. I recently closed a card I had from Credit One bank as I didn't agree with their annual fee and preffered to keep my cards from well known creditors like Chase and Amex.

I starting out so my score isn't amazing or anything. I in the mid to high range 600s. I currently have a QuickSilver Credit card from Capital One that was recently upgraded as an offer from my Capital One Journey card. This was my first and oldest credit card. My 2nd Card was Credit one bank which is now closed. 3rd Card is a Best Buy Credit Card, and 4th is a Chase Freedom (Not unlimited new one). 

 

My Experience with Amex so far

I've heard alot about Amex and how good and prestigous it is. Yesterday I decided to try applying for a card, since I am just starting out I didn't wanna get myself into any hefty annual fee's so starting with Blue Cash Everyday seemed like a good idea. For anyone who knows about this card, is it worth having? I was approved for the card but was not pleased with my credit line amount as my other cards were more generous. So I read about the harm in canceling a card right after opening and it is minimal to none. I contacted customer support and explained to them that I was interested in closing my card and account due to the limit. I know that might seem kinda childish or so, but I don't intend to have too many credit cards. I more or less want to have 3 credit cards with high limits for my uses, and 2 at most retail cards like best buy and another. So wasting one of my 3 slots on such a low card seemed like a bad idea. She insisted that I contact their credit line team to request an increase. When I explained to her that that would cause another hard inquiry on my account and for that I'd rather apply for another card from one of my current creditors, she said she understands completely but that in her experience she highly reccomends that I call them and that I might be able to receive the line im looking for.

 

My Question regarding my situation with Amex

So my main question aside from general advice with credit cards and all is, should I contact them and keep my Amex Blue Everyday Cash CC? Is it a good card? Is it worth having? Or should I just go ahead and close it? What benefits are there to the card, as well as my current cards? I am 100% new to all of this, I have my own understanding of how it all works, but learning more seems like a very smart move to better educate myself on the matter. I thank everyone in advance who takes the time out of their day to help a beginner out!

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KSK1912
Valued Contributor

Re: Question about AMEX Cards among other cards?


@iNathanDrake wrote:

Hello everyone, I'm new to the forums and fairly new to the credit building world. I was hoping to get some better explained information regarding American Express cards and some of my other credit cards. It's a lot to read I know, so I'll seperate it by category so you can just read what you need.

 

Some minor background on myself and my cards and score

I'm currently 22, I work full time and am currently in possesion of 3 Credit Cards and 1 on it way in the mail for a total of 4 accounts. I recently closed a card I had from Credit One bank as I didn't agree with their annual fee and preffered to keep my cards from well known creditors like Chase and Amex.

I starting out so my score isn't amazing or anything. I in the mid to high range 600s. I currently have a QuickSilver Credit card from Capital One that was recently upgraded as an offer from my Capital One Journey card. This was my first and oldest credit card. My 2nd Card was Credit one bank which is now closed. 3rd Card is a Best Buy Credit Card, and 4th is a Chase Freedom (Not unlimited new one). 

 

My Experience with Amex so far

I've heard alot about Amex and how good and prestigous it is. Yesterday I decided to try applying for a card, since I am just starting out I didn't wanna get myself into any hefty annual fee's so starting with Blue Cash Everyday seemed like a good idea. For anyone who knows about this card, is it worth having? I was approved for the card but was not pleased with my credit line amount as my other cards were more generous. So I read about the harm in canceling a card right after opening and it is minimal to none. I contacted customer support and explained to them that I was interested in closing my card and account due to the limit. I know that might seem kinda childish or so, but I don't intend to have too many credit cards. I more or less want to have 3 credit cards with high limits for my uses, and 2 at most retail cards like best buy and another. So wasting one of my 3 slots on such a low card seemed like a bad idea. She insisted that I contact their credit line team to request an increase. When I explained to her that that would cause another hard inquiry on my account and for that I'd rather apply for another card from one of my current creditors, she said she understands completely but that in her experience she highly reccomends that I call them and that I might be able to receive the line im looking for.

 

My Question regarding my situation with Amex

So my main question aside from general advice with credit cards and all is, should I contact them and keep my Amex Blue Everyday Cash CC? Is it a good card? Is it worth having? Or should I just go ahead and close it? What benefits are there to the card, as well as my current cards? I am 100% new to all of this, I have my own understanding of how it all works, but learning more seems like a very smart move to better educate myself on the matter. I thank everyone in advance who takes the time out of their day to help a beginner out!


Welcome to the Forum and the Credit world!

You seeem to have a decent start into your credit adventure. If anyone, in their response, seem to be a little hash, don't take it personal Smiley Happy It is for our good and to be straight to the point. MAkes things easier. Now, one mistake you made is to apply for a credit card before you ask the questions or do a research about it, and now you want to close it. You said it is a low limit, but you did not mention your approval limit, and the limit you were expecting, and also the limit and the balance on your other cards and how long you had your other cards. These are all data points that creditors use when determining your approval, and your starting limit. BCE is a very good card. I got mine in Dec. and i love it. Amex is very generous when it comes to credit limit increases. You can use the card for 61 days and ask for cli on 61 day, up to your 3X initial limit. So if your approval was for $1000, you are likely to get a cli up to $3K in 2 months, and another 3X 6 months after that. So it is very likely to take a $1K card and increase your limit to $9K in just about 8 months. I would definitely keep the card, unless you are in to travel / hotel points and such; which in that case you applied for the wrong card to begin with. BCE will give you cash back that you can use towards statement credit. Let us know your approval amount and the limit / balance on your other cards you currently have, and we can help you further make a decision.


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myjourney
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Re: Question about AMEX Cards among other cards?

Welcome to the forum 

Short and sweet answers:

 

The cards you want to grow and build are prime cards and now you have 2 Chase and Amex 

Being young I assume you don't spend a lot on groceries and gas but you tell me your monthly spend?

 

You closed a card with an AF so I don't think you need any of those and BCE is a good card for someone with low grocery and gas spending 

It has an excellent extended warranty and I assure you the limit will grow in fact probably higher than your Freedom and faster.

It has SP CLI request and in  IMHO you should keep it and grow it long term

Before you app think...
Have you done your research of the CC?
Does it fit your spending?
Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
Can you afford the AF?
Do you know the cards benefits? Is it worth the HP?
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iNathanDrake
Valued Member

Re: Question about AMEX Cards among other cards?

Hey, thanks for the quick response and for pointing out some mistakes. I won't take anything personal haha I'm here to learn. I've had my Journey card which has been converted to Quicksilver of 1500 since around March 2014. My Best buy Credit card of 2000 Limit since February 2015 and My Chase Freedom Card of 1200 Since March 2015. Capital one was increased from 500 to 1500 as well as best buy from 1000 to 2000 about a month and a half ago. Chase was given to me at 1200 and has remained at 1200 since I received it. My utilization for them is roughly 50% or less. I generally make large payments to clear my card as quickly as I can, however I am currently helping my mother take care of some debt so I havent been able to make a large payment in about 2 months now. But will soon resume being able to pay large amounts. 

 

Amex BCE was approved for 1000, and why it irks me is cause my other cards were given to me with equal or greater value at lower scores, when I was in the low to mid 500s. Since then I've been doing my best to monitor my score weekly, and do whatever I can to take care of and maintain my score to improve it. So I feel I have made some reasonable progress and felt like getting 1000 as my limit still after making around a 150 point boost to my score since my last 1k aproval cards was disencouraging. I agree that I should have done more research, but I just saw it as any other credit card. So in my mind I just understood it as this. I was interested in Amex, I'll apply to one with no annual fee and use it as any other one of my credit cards. Pay for something with my card, and then go and pay it off when I get paid. Plain and simple, I generally don't make much use of my points and stuff. With capital one and chase I usually put my points as cash towards my balance anyway so I'm fine with that.

 

If there's anything more you need to know or that I missed feel free to ask. And thanks again!

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iNathanDrake
Valued Member

Re: Question about AMEX Cards among other cards?

Thank you for the quick answers, I generally pay for my groceries, gas, etc with my debit card when I had the funds available. IF not i'll plan out what I need, charge it on one of my cards, and when I get my pay check, pay it off immediately. I don't know how bad or good that is? I guess I just feel, if I can pay for it, don't use someone else's money. Is that a bad mind set? Thanks!

 

The AF wasn't the biggest issue, so much that I wanted to keep my credit cards from bigger better known creditors. I'd rather see Chase then Credit One, I'd rather see Capital One, than seeing Milestone. I don't mean it to sound pretentious or anything, just personal preference. And as far as annual fee's, I don't know much about making use of your credit card benefits outside of just putting it towards balance payment. So I don't know how I feel about paying annual fee's and not taking advantage of what I'm paying for, because of this reason I tend to stick to No AF cards.

 

I am going to call Amex's Line increase line during my lunch break to explore the options the rep had suggested. Will post here to update within 2 hours!

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Samac
Regular Contributor

Re: Question about AMEX Cards among other cards?

Actually I think they treated you fairly. Usually prime lenders will stay in the range of your current cards, 150 points ago you wouldn't have been approved.
Give it some time and get some CLI's. It'll grow. Congrats on starting the credit journey!
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myjourney
Super Contributor

Re: Question about AMEX Cards among other cards?


@iNathanDrake wrote:

Thank you for the quick answers, I generally pay for my groceries, gas, etc with my debit card when I had the funds available. IF not i'll plan out what I need, charge it on one of my cards, and when I get my pay check, pay it off immediately. I don't know how bad or good that is? I guess I just feel, if I can pay for it, don't use someone else's money. Is that a bad mind set? Thanks!

 

The AF wasn't the biggest issue, so much that I wanted to keep my credit cards from bigger better known creditors. I'd rather see Chase then Credit One, I'd rather see Capital One, than seeing Milestone. I don't mean it to sound pretentious or anything, just personal preference. And as far as annual fee's, I don't know much about making use of your credit card benefits outside of just putting it towards balance payment. So I don't know how I feel about paying annual fee's and not taking advantage of what I'm paying for, because of this reason I tend to stick to No AF cards.

 

I am going to call Amex's Line increase line during my lunch break to explore the options the rep had suggested. Will post here to update within 2 hours!


Stop 

Ignore the CSR and what they told you about a CLI =HP

I'll edit this post in a minute with more info 

And stop using that debit card today Lol

 

Edit to add 

Start using your BCE for gas and groceries that's what the card is designed for and no more debit card unless you need some cash 

Change your mindset of using someone else's money this is what you want to do 

Be rewarded for the use of a free loan in this cards sake 3% and pay off monthly in full

Just be sure not to over  spend.....spend as normal that's it

Now I see nothing wrong with the limit they started you with and in fact it's in line with your others limits not counting BB which is a store card

Are you aware that in 61 days you can request a SP CLI on the card and if approved it then become your largest limit of all cards?

You haven't proven yourself with big banks yet and so don't expect large limits but if you manage Cap1, Chase and Amex good for a year the doors will open 

 

I have to now grade you for your research on the product before you applied  D-

All hope is not lost if you keep your emotions out of the equation and except the makeup paper due in 62 days Smiley TongueSmiley Very Happy

Before you app think...
Have you done your research of the CC?
Does it fit your spending?
Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
Can you afford the AF?
Do you know the cards benefits? Is it worth the HP?
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iNathanDrake
Valued Member

Re: Question about AMEX Cards among other cards?


@Samac wrote:
Actually I think they treated you fairly. Usually prime lenders will stay in the range of your current cards, 150 points ago you wouldn't have been approved.
Give it some time and get some CLI's. It'll grow. Congrats on starting the credit journey!

You think so? You might be right, I didn't know about them staying within my ranges. As I said I'm fairly new to this. I'm not completely unaware and I do my best to keep up and on top of my stuff. But I never really had anyone to counsil me on things like this. I've kinda just been learning as life goes on xD Everyone so far thinks I should keep it and grow with it. 

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iNathanDrake
Valued Member

Re: Question about AMEX Cards among other cards?


@myjourney wrote:

@iNathanDrake wrote:

Thank you for the quick answers, I generally pay for my groceries, gas, etc with my debit card when I had the funds available. IF not i'll plan out what I need, charge it on one of my cards, and when I get my pay check, pay it off immediately. I don't know how bad or good that is? I guess I just feel, if I can pay for it, don't use someone else's money. Is that a bad mind set? Thanks!

 

 -

 

I am going to call Amex's Line increase line during my lunch break to explore the options the rep had suggested. Will post here to update within 2 hours!


Stop 

Ignore the CSR and what they told you about a CLI =HP

I'll edit this post in a minute with more info 

And stop using that debit card today Lol



Oh! Eagerly awating your response! Also lol what does =HP mean haha I got the other 2 but I'm lost for that one.

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myjourney
Super Contributor

Re: Question about AMEX Cards among other cards?


@iNathanDrake wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@iNathanDrake wrote:

Thank you for the quick answers, I generally pay for my groceries, gas, etc with my debit card when I had the funds available. IF not i'll plan out what I need, charge it on one of my cards, and when I get my pay check, pay it off immediately. I don't know how bad or good that is? I guess I just feel, if I can pay for it, don't use someone else's money. Is that a bad mind set? Thanks!

 

 -

 

I am going to call Amex's Line increase line during my lunch break to explore the options the rep had suggested. Will post here to update within 2 hours!


Stop 

Ignore the CSR and what they told you about a CLI =HP

I'll edit this post in a minute with more info 

And stop using that debit card today Lol



Oh! Eagerly awating your response! Also lol what does =HP mean haha I got the other 2 but I'm lost for that one.


HP=Hard pull on your credit 

Previous post updated 

Before you app think...
Have you done your research of the CC?
Does it fit your spending?
Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
Can you afford the AF?
Do you know the cards benefits? Is it worth the HP?
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