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Yea I'll talk to Orchard and see what I can get out of them. I have a few (10) months to make a decision on it.
One of the reasons I got the secured card with my credit union was to build some kind of credit with them for the future when i want a car or home loan. I feel like that will help if I have a spotless history with them. Plus they report to all 3 bureaus as well, so it does have that benefit.
Is my only option with USAA to have a bank account with them as well? I'm really happy with my credit union and I am grandfathered into a pretty large family plan, so I have top benefits for my account already. I can't buy just the monitoring service?
@neverrain wrote:Yea I'll talk to Orchard and see what I can get out of them. I have a few (10) months to make a decision on it.
One of the reasons I got the secured card with my credit union was to build some kind of credit with them for the future when i want a car or home loan. I feel like that will help if I have a spotless history with them. Plus they report to all 3 bureaus as well, so it does have that benefit.
Is my only option with USAA to have a bank account with them as well? I'm really happy with my credit union and I am grandfathered into a pretty large family plan, so I have top benefits for my account already. I can't buy just the monitoring service?
I believe you can become a limited member without needing to open a bank account...but if you do I believe you only need $25 to open an account and no minimum required to stay in the account. Once you sign up for the monitoring service and your EQ report looks good you can apply for their credit card. I would also recommend to take advantage of the 10 day free trial of EQ Fico Watch here before you go applying for new credit (assuming you haven't takend advantage of it yet) Don't forget first to become an auth user on a few cards with 5+ years of history and low UTI of 10% or less on the cards.
I was able to sign up for the CreditCheck Premium service without opening a bank account or using my father's military info/SSN. Service looks pretty good. Also looks like I need to have some 7+ year old items removed from my report.
I'm not sure if the family would be cool with me piggybacking onto their credit cards, so I'll have to go that alone. The Orchard card is my oldest credit card listed on my credit history (that I can see), so should I not close that even if I can't get the AF removed?
@neverrain wrote:I was able to sign up for the CreditCheck Premium service without opening a bank account or using my father's military info/SSN. Service looks pretty good. Also looks like I need to have some 7+ year old items removed from my report.
I'm not sure if the family would be cool with me piggybacking onto their credit cards, so I'll have to go that alone. The Orchard card is my oldest credit card listed on my credit history (that I can see), so should I not close that even if I can't get the AF removed?
Why do you think they won't want to help you out? Is it because of some negative item you have on your report?
I guess the best answer to that is that I was once 18 and stupid.
My dad is currently helping me with the loan on my car through Chase and I just made my 13th payment on it (to him) without issue. I mean, I guess it doesn't hurt to ask, but how would that affect his credit? Is there any negative to that at all?
Also, I saw another thread saying that it's possible that too many piggybacks could be bad in the long run? Is there proven success doing that? How does it really benefit me being authorized on someone else's credit card?
@neverrain wrote:I'm not sure if the family would be cool with me piggybacking onto their credit cards, so I'll have to go that alone. The Orchard card is my oldest credit card listed on my credit history (that I can see), so should I not close that even if I can't get the AF removed?
Are you trying to solve a 3 month problem or a three year one?
The AF is frankly who cares over the course of the lifetime. Yes it's expensive, yes there are absolutely better cards; however, you don't have access to them yet (neither do I for that matter). 2 vs 3 credit cards *shrug*, they're both good numbers, but I suspect 3 might be slightly better when it comes down to it, especially on a manual review.
Since we're stuck in this position together: we had issues in the past, we're attempting to re-establish credit now. We need to prove to lenders that you're worthy of being granted credit again... until that happens we frankly get stuck with some stupid crap like a $79 dollar fee, or a 19% APR on a car, and various other expensive and somewhat humiliating crap: banks are like that, we hosed somebody in the past, and they're going to take their pound of flesh until we make it right.
Clean up your report, take the extra Cap 1 card, use it responsibilty, and don't randomly close the Orchard card with the ridiculous AF unless you really need that 80 bucks right now. Wait till you can get a *real* card and then start trashing your starter ones, which both the Orchard and the Cap 1 qualify as. Also the secured card is definitely worth keeping too, again, if you don't have a short-term cash flow problem and it sounds like you don't. You're trying to show that you can handle additional credit... heck, use closing one of them as a selling point in a manual review when you go for a prime card, it'll make them feel better (more likely you'll use theirs!) and it's something you'd probably do anyway.
As for the authorized user (AU) bit, if you can get it, take it. It will help both short-term (3 months) and mid-long term (3+ years); unfortunately I don't have that luxury as my folks lived the same cash-based existance that I have, and I have a longer credit card history than they do. Sure, too many might be a flag in a in either an automatic approval or manual review, but you only want one. It'll boost your FICO and that can get you auto-approved for other things later, though you're right it probably doesn't help much in a manual review; however, you have to *get* to the manual review step first, and an AU account can greatly facilitate that.
You don't want your parents card in this case, you just want to be listed as one for credit scoring purposes. If you get sent a card, cut it up right in front of them or some similar melodramatic gesture. If your parents are helping you out with a car loan, you obviously haven't pissed them off enough that they wouldn't be willing to do that
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@neverrain wrote:I guess the best answer to that is that I was once 18 and stupid.
My dad is currently helping me with the loan on my car through Chase and I just made my 13th payment on it (to him) without issue. I mean, I guess it doesn't hurt to ask, but how would that affect his credit? Is there any negative to that at all?
All your Dad needs to do is add you as an auth user on a card or two that he has had for 5+ years with low UTI and possibly high credit limit. He doesn't need to request a card for you. Adding you as an auth user will not effect his credit. By having the card(s) reported on your report it will help boost your score because it will show some major credit cards with high credit limits and 5+ years of history which will also be good for your AAoA. I have read from others who were approved for a Citi Platinum card by only having credit reporting as an auth user on their report. Of course YMMV since I don't know how clean your report is vs theirs. But either way to sum it up having major credit cards with 5k plus credit limits with low UTI, 5+ years of history/AAoA will help boost your scores which will increase your chances of being approved for the cards I suggested in a previous reply.
IMO, 3 cards is better than 2 for rebuilding.
Now that you have 3, I suggest you do nothing else at this point. Use the Capital One to develop some good history with them. Keep the secured card with the CU to develop a history with them. Keep the Orchard as it will be sold to Capital One before AF is due. If Capital One doesn't improve the terms before AF is due, then close it.