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Setting your 2021 Card Strategy

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Aim_High
Super Contributor

Setting your 2021 Card Strategy

Many of us complain about lender guidelines such as Chase's 5/24 limit on new accounts.  Bank of America (3/12 for non-account holders) and US Bank (1/12) have other rules that are well-known.  Most of these rules were set up to limit SUB-chasing or to identify what a bank would consider 'excessive credit-seeking behavior' which could be a sign of financial distress.   From our perspective, it can be annoying to have those limits placed on us.  Smiley Mad

 

On the other hand, we often remind each other that "Credit is a marathon, not a Sprint," to try to pace ourselves, and to realize that we need to keep some self-discipline in the process.   Periodically, we may look on with horror (or envy) as someone tries to get away with a monster App Spree.  We know that's not really the way to build good credit.   Overly-seeking credit can be addictive and counterproductive to our finances.  As a general guideline, I usually suggest to newer members that slow and steady wins the race, and that planning to add about one new account every six months is a good long-term pacing that will usually keep you within the various lender limitations, especially for those with low-to-medium scores, thinner files or derogatories.  The more you go over that, the more likely you'll start getting denials eventually, and that's regardless of the strength of your profile.

 

In another thread today, one of our Moderators suggested that we reframe the way we look at those lender guidelines since they help to force our focus on what is most important to building our profile.  I thought that was a good point, since there are so many credit card options out there, having a limiting framework can actually be helpful in setting priorities.   Having a good strategy requires taking inventory of our existing cards, an honest evaluation of our financial picture and needs, and a careful consideration of which credit cards would be most beneficial.   Sometimes, chasing after the FOTM card (Flavor of the Month) or the latest, greatest SUB isn't the card we most need.  And over-app'ing can be a disruption to improving our finances with the best card for us.

 

At times, I've been guilty of the impulsive apps so I'm not pointing fingers.  But I've also planned for new cards and I'm doing so right now.  I keep some MS Word documents on my computer where I track new accounts dates in the previous 6-12-24 months, CLI dates, Inquiry dates by bureau, and also lists of cards that I think would be beneficial.   Having lists and dates helps me to come up with a plan for the next six months, one year, or two years.  And not impulsively diving into cards can help me make sure I'm making good choices and optimizing my chances of success.   If it wasn't for limits on how many cards I could add, I might find myself going in five different directions all-at-once with nothing to show for it.

 

For the community, how do you set limits for yourself on new cards or inquiries and do you have a process before applying for new credit?  How long do you plan or do you impulsively app?   Is impulsive or excessive app'ing a problem or a concern?  We're in the last three weeks of 2020.  As it draws to a close, what are your credit goals for 2021?

 

 .....  Kudos to @Remedios for the topic.  Smiley Wink


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Length of Credit > 40 years; Total Credit Limits >$898K
Top Lender TCL - Chase 156.4 - BofA 99.7 - AMEX 95.0 - CITI 94.5 - NFCU 80.0
AoOA > 30 years (Jun 1993); AoYA (Feb 2024)
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TheFIGuy
Established Contributor

Re: Setting your 2021 Card Strategy

I'm in a holding pattern for 2021+, either (a) AMEX would have to re-organize and end the partnership with Charles Schwab, or (b) a really good business 2%+ Cashback card would have to be announced for me to leave the current holding pattern.

 

If (a) happened I would be reaching out to you @Aim_High for Chase trifecta help so let's hope (a) isn't in the 2021+ future.

 

My current setup:

Daily Drivers

  • AMEX CS Platinum
  • AMEX Gold
  • AMEX BBP
  • USB Altitude GO
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CA4Closure
Regular Contributor

Re: Setting your 2021 Card Strategy

For the community, how do you set limits for yourself on new cards or inquiries and do you have a process before applying for new credit?  How long do you plan or do you impulsively app?   Is impulsive or excessive app'ing a problem or a concern?  We're in the last three weeks of 2020.  As it draws to a close, what are your credit goals for 2021?

 

In 2020 my goal was to get rid of credit cards that had no rewards, annual fee(s) and no/low CLI. Capital One was the card that got the axe from me. It was my longest tenure card at 20 years. I am still considering closing my Chase Freedom Unlimited card due to their high APR% and low credit line that has not changed in the 3 years I have had it.

I applied for Barclay's Hawaiian Airlines Mastercard Elite because I fly to Hawaii at least 8 times a year and at $99 annual fee, it made sense for me to have this credit card. When I was approved for this card, they had a 60,000 point reward for new applicants. I have gotten those rewards within 2 months of getting that card. They also gave me a nice CL of $35,000 so it was a no  brainer to close my Capital One Platinum MC.

 

I am not going after a lot of credit cards. I am content with the 14 I have now. I am using my Navy Federal Credit Union cards a lot right now along with Discover. Discover just gave me an 18 month 0% APR on purchases. I have already spent a nice chunk of money on my Discover card. But Navy and Discover will get my major spend in 2021 because of their excellent APR% and CL's they have given me.

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Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: Setting your 2021 Card Strategy


@TheFIGuy wrote:

I'm in a holding pattern for 2021+, either (a) AMEX would have to re-organize and end the partnership with Charles Schwab, or (b) a really good business 2%+ Cashback card would have to be announced for me to leave the current holding pattern.

 

If (a) happened I would be reaching out to you @Aim_High for Chase trifecta help so let's hope (a) isn't in the 2021+ future.

 

My current setup:

Daily Drivers

  • AMEX CS Platinum
  • AMEX Gold
  • AMEX BBP
  • USB Altitude GO

Thanks @TheFIGuy.  And what's really good about your example is that it's okay to be in a 'holding pattern' sometimes and just be content with what we've built!  That reminds me of a couple of forum postings where our members felt lost because they exhausted the obvious possibilities.  Anyone can get there, but it's a sign that maybe some time on the sidelines is in order.  Congrats on building a lineup that is working well for you! 


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Length of Credit > 40 years; Total Credit Limits >$898K
Top Lender TCL - Chase 156.4 - BofA 99.7 - AMEX 95.0 - CITI 94.5 - NFCU 80.0
AoOA > 30 years (Jun 1993); AoYA (Feb 2024)
* Hover cursor over cards to see name & CL, or press & hold on mobile app.
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Remedios
Credit Mentor

Re: Setting your 2021 Card Strategy

I don't have a business, so outside of property taxes and tution, my spending curve is relatively stable.

In that respect, applying for 500 cards won't do me any good since I am dealing with finite amount of money. 

 

Being in self imposed garden isn't the worst result of applying for a lot of cards. It's growing debt that some people experience when they are trying to *take advantage* of 0% promos on 10 cards, totally overextending themselves. I am sure they live under impression that everything is under control, but it isn't. 

It spirals out of control rather quickly.

There is also "because of five duds in my SD, I cannot get the one I need"

 

Ive gone through two periods of "I can't sleep, but I sure can fill out apps"

While the SUBs were nice, most of those cards are useless. Then, because I got useless cards, I kicked myself out of running for useful ones. 

While my SLs were okay to great,  APRs on those cards are payday loan like. It's a nice message about how risky my behavior appears to the other side. 

Too much of everything, way too fast. 

 

Now that I'm done proselytizing, goals..

 

I already have everything i need. Goal is to sit still unless something really good (read: SUB) comes along, in addition to vanilla goal *Apply for credit when you need credit*

I've trashed many agining metrics, I'm simply not in a position to continue with Stupid Deluxe Signed Edition. 

 

None of this means I won't apply for cards, but it does mean being quite a  bit more selective, delineating better between *want, need, and bored*. 

 

 

 

 

 

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AndySoCal
Valued Contributor

Re: Setting your 2021 Card Strategy

Right now I am planning not to apply for any new credit cards. I am also not planning to apply for any credit Limit increases either.

My own rule for a credit limit increase is redit utilization on the card  greater than 10% of credit limit month over month.   With my spend and my credit limits none my cards qualify for a credit limit increase consideration.

FICO Scores XPN v8 802 V2 831 (SDFCU) TUC 803 v8 EFX 807 (10/2023)
Discover 09/90 19,000, JCPenney 10/2008 4,700 US Bank Cash 12,000 Citibank Custom Cash 5/2015 11,100 State Dept. FCU 15,000 06/2023 , 02/2024 Redstone FCU Signature VISA 10,000 Banking: Ally Bank Credit Unions: Lafayette FCU Fortera FCU State Department FCU Pelican CU

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TheFIGuy
Established Contributor

Re: Setting your 2021 Card Strategy


But Navy and Discover will get my major spend in 2021 because of their excellent APR% and CL's they have given me.

@CA4Closure If NFCU would implement/allow autopayments from external financial institutions, I would immediately change some spending around. I personally like all my credit cards to be set up with autopayments three (3) business days before the due date. The last time I spoke with NFCU 11/2020, this feature was "being discussed within management, but no actual timeline has been discussed."

 

But I digress, I like your setup!

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simplynoir
Community Leader
Mega Contributor

Re: Setting your 2021 Card Strategy

My yolo lifestyle of going to one card after another was back in 2017 when I first started coming to the forums. It was like the wild west out there where any card that gave me attention I gave it right back. My credit reports went from 820s to 780-790s during that time. Then towards the end of 2019 I was finally ready to settle down and only go after cards I see myself keeping long term or have a signup bonus big enough to ignore first rule 😂 Now with inquiries aging or beginning to fall off to go with aging accounts crossing thresholds I'm back to the 840s on EQ and TU, EX is a mess because everyone likes ganging up on EX so it's the runt sticking around 820s. This is all dependent on how much DW and I spend since I've stopped practicing AZEO awhile ago. DW is same with wanting keepers for her card lineup

 

Our 2021 strategy is different from others in that we're preparing to enter the housing market next year. So by necessity we're purposely limiting any apps next year after January when I plan to hit Socks Bank with the Connect app. After than any other cards that we have kept our eye on whether for keeper or churning purposes (Delta cards, Hyatt, maybe Hilton?) takes a back seat til we have a house with keys in hand

 

Our current personal and business cards fit our rewards strategy that we had to change this year due to coronavirus. Once travel is a more realistic possibility then we'll tweak our setup again to reflect that. With our toes in many rewards programs (AMEX, Chase, Bofa, Socks, Delta) if any changes take place that would affect our strategy such as Socks implementing negative changes to the Altitude Reserve then we have fallback options while re-assessing

 

tl;dr I went through my crazy years early so now I don't have many "goal" cards left to strategize for house hunting aside

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longtimelurker
Epic Contributor

Re: Setting your 2021 Card Strategy


@AndySoCal wrote:

Right now I am planning not to apply for any new credit cards. I am also not planning to apply for any credit Limit increases either.

Same here, I have the cards that I need.

 

With the caveat: if some of the key cards got nerfed, I might want to apply for an alternative.  This is particularly true of USAlliance and USB AR.

 

And if my friend's cousin's landlord's friend is right about the 8% cashback card that's coming really soon, well, might go for that.

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Kforce
Valued Contributor

Re: Setting your 2021 Card Strategy


@Aim_High wrote:

For the community, how do you set limits for yourself on new cards or inquiries and do you have a process before applying for new credit?  How long do you plan or do you impulsively app?   Is impulsive or excessive app'ing a problem or a concern?  We're in the last three weeks of 2020.  As it draws to a close, what are your credit goals for 2021?

 

 .....  Kudos to @Remedios for the topic.


I have never been impulsive with credit cards.

I don't have a need for travel - hotel rewards,  which leaves cashback.

I don't get cards just for "Sub", or "Bank Transfers".

 

When I first went for reward cards, I found a couple that gave me the highest rewards on my real everyday spend by analyzing 6 months history.  Have only went for new cards when a card was "Nerfed" (SalieMae)  .or. passed my "New Card Rule" .

 

(New Card Rule } //  New card only if reward value > $10 a month over current card set.

 

I don't believe in getting a new card for just a few dollars a month extra, splitting of rewards and managing them is not my thing.

I like a simple, small card count.  If I knew that some of my current cards would not be nerfed I could just have three cards.  I keep a few others just because I have seen some good cards leave and need a backup set.

 

This means some times years go by with no new card, and once in a while a new card makes the cut

I think it was 4 or 5 years with no new cards and then the USAlliance 3% showed up in 2020.

We will see what 2021 brings.

 

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