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Garden, garden, garden until the end of 2022. I went on the app spree to end all app sprees, finally sputtering out with several dozen inquiries in each bureau and totaling 18 newbies / 24 mos. before seeing straight denials and giving up.
Despite atrocious credit-seeking behavior this year, I am 50 points higher than I was a year ago, due to baddies farther behind in the rear view mirror and single-digit utilization. I remain a hair over 700 in each bureau after all this, and anticipate watching it slowly rise as AAoA ticks up, INQ drop, and I cross that last 8.9% threshold on my aggregate UTIL to see what that nets me.
@Anonymous I really didn't even notice how i neglected my credit during those dark years. I'm thankful that I isn't lose employment re: COVID. But the money that would have normally been spent on vacations has gone to "the great pay down"
overall UTIL is under 20%, I want to get it below 10% before I start apping for mortgages.
Great topic by the way @Aim_High!!
What this pandemic has brought out in me is discipline. Something I never could get a grasp of during the hay days of "apping for the sake, of apping" days. I have seen my credit lines raise to great heights. At the same time I have lost around $200k to bank initiated closures, inactivity, and some poking of the bear or not letting sleeping dogs lay as you will. So my infinite pursuit of 1 million in available credit is over and to me I am content on where I am today. With that all being said, I am going into 2021 with some goal cards and actually cards I am going to hold on to or that will benefit my overall grand scheme. Those cards are:
BOA Premium Rewards (Premium Rewards Client)
Citi Presitge (Travel card for late 2021)
BBVA Clearpoints (Currently running a nice sub)
@Aim_High wrote:
For the community, how do you set limits for yourself on new cards or inquiries and do you have a process before applying for new credit? How long do you plan or do you impulsively app? Is impulsive or excessive app'ing a problem or a concern? We're in the last three weeks of 2020. As it draws to a close, what are your credit goals for 2021?
For me, it's kind of TBD what limits I'll end up setting for myself or what my 2021 will end up looking like in terms of app activity. I only found this forum in early August, so I'm kind of at the place some of the above members talk about as being a couple of years behind them: new to cc's as a hobby, and the candy store is open. Before August 2020 I'd been more of a typical credit card consumer, in that for many years I'd just had my Disco It that I used for everything, plus a couple of older cards gaining age in the sock drawer. But then I came across MyFICO while looking for info on helping my spouse with their credit scores (it's been a treasure trove for that!) and I've apped for two new cards in the last four months.
I don't think I'll app at any kind of furious pace in the new year, but I still may pick up a few more cards in 2021 if I think they'll be beneficial. I did do a good amount of planning and research before my two recent apps, especially for the BCP. I spent three months looking up the rewards structure, terms, etc. of about every grocery card I could find that wasn't behind a geofence and then ran the numbers on grocery spend & cashback gain and compared other card and issuer pro's and con's, so I doubt I'll become impulsive or excessive with future apps to any great degree. Some other things that will probably keep me from going too crazy are:
1) The few cards I already have pretty much cover the cashback categories that our spend justifies apping for, and we have no use for hotel or airline points. There are still some things that might be useful rewards-wise, like adding another rotator or a 2%+ off-cat card, but I could be perfectly content with the earn rates I have now. Our overall spend is also not that high, so spreading it among more rewards cards would get pretty marginal pretty quickly.
2) One of the changes that 2020 brought for us was that I became a homemaker, so unlike in the past I've used household income for my recent cc apps and a CLI request. I'll probably be working at least part time by the middle of 2021, but my individual income would still be pretty small and I don't know that I would want to pile up a whole lot of available credit on my spouse's earnings. Not because I don't think their income will be reliable, but it feels kind of like taking on obligations for them rather than for myself. (They, on the other hand, have told me to open as many cards w/ household income as I want...)
3) I don't think I'd enjoy managing very many cards. I keep track of balances and due dates and make the payments for my cards as well as my spouse's, and the relatively small number we have now is already kind of on the edge of what I want to deal with, so that will probably keep me from adding too many more in the next year.
Now, all that said, I'm currently contemplating whether to be a true MyFICOer and app for a Cash+ in mid-February, which should be right before my BCP reports to the bureaus and kicks me up to 2/12, or be more reasonable and wait to be 1/12 again next fall, so we'll see what 2021 actually holds for my wallet.
I am in the "I have all the cards and credit limits I could resonably need" camp. However, a lucrative signup bonus can cause my ears to perk up. I am currently working on meeting the minimum spend for Capital One Venture's 100k SUB. After that, well there's nothing in particular on my radar for next year. I might downgrade or close some airline cards due to lack of flying. A significant nerf with a current card could also upend things and have me on the hunt for a replacement.
2021 will have me coming out of a near 4-year "garden" for a mortgage refi. Once that is in the books, I may add the only 2 cards I've been thinking about for a while which are the USB Cash+ and BoA Cash Rewards. Those are the only 2 cards that would suit my spend above what my current [limited 7 card] lineup has to offer. I don't really "need" the cards though, but will probably still pull the trigger. I wouldn't mind thickening my file a bit more since I'm going to have about half of the accounts on my CR falling off in the next 5 years or so. I've had the needle pinned on my Fico scores since mid 2018, so it would also be fun to do a year of data testing from a +3 account "spree" and then take them back to 850 over 12 months charting things along the way.
@Anonymous wrote:2021 will have me coming out of a near 4-year "garden" for a mortgage refi. Once that is in the books, I may add the only 2 cards I've been thinking about for a while which are the USB Cash+ and BoA Cash Rewards. Those are the only 2 cards that would suit my spend above what my current [limited 7 card] lineup has to offer. I don't really "need" the cards though, but will probably still pull the trigger. I wouldn't mind thickening my file a bit more since I'm going to have about half of the accounts on my CR falling off in the next 5 years or so. I've had the needle pinned on my Fico scores since mid 2018, so it would also be fun to do a year of data testing from a +3 account "spree" and then take them back to 850 over 12 months charting things along the way.
Mind disclousing the (limitied 7 card) lineup?
I'd say I'm entering 2021 hesitant for new credit after loading up the previous 18 months with close to a 300% increase in credit line. A big TCL is not all that its cracked up to be since you'll start getting denials for it from lenders.
I plan to work the cards I already have mostly. I convertied a Citi AA card into a Rewards+ to save me the AF. I'm considering switching my Freedom Unlimited to a Freedom Flex to make up for the loss of World Mastercard Elite benefits and to be able condense my wallet some. Its not that I don't mind having multiple cards but I just don't like the weight it adds to the phone wallet.
At some levels I have thought about cash back debit cards instead of a utilization pad. Another idea is get into the crypto CB world. Some products are starting to come out. One of them is Nexo. The way it works is they pay you up to 12% APY for your deposits but allow you to borrow up to 5.9% APR against your account holdings. Theoretically you could deposit dollars into BTC with the idea of massive growth in the next few years ahead.
More practically what you could do is deposit your entire paychecks into it, use your credit cards normally as you do but pay with them with money from your nexo account. Payoff the charges once a week to avoid most of the 5.9% APY. A nice way to potentially double dip and in addition you can stack with dividedend payments.
Another one I found was Crypto.com. You can for the equivlent of $14,500 have a debit card which is 8% cash back in all categories (except the usual exclued MCCs and Bills & Utilities). They want 6 months "stakes" which are commitments to keep the money in their token based currency. 100% cash back on Netflix, Spotify and Amazon Prime. 10% cash back on Expedia and AirBnB.
https://crypto.com/en/cards.html
@TheFIGuy wrote:Mind disclousing the (limitied 7 card) lineup?
Sure thing: Chase Freedom, Chase Amazon Prime, Discover, Amex BCE, Cap One Savor, Lowe's, Citi DC.
I'm pretty comfortable with most categories covered by my cards above, but adding the 2 cards I'm considering would allow me to do a bit better overall. Also by limited I was referring not so much to what the cards offer me (they aren't "bad" cards) just limited in overall number of cards relative to many of the card diehards on this forum.