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Hi
My FICO score is : 760
Missed payment: Never on any account.
Accounts open : Credit card and Mortgage ( only two)
Lenght of oldest acct: 8 yeras
Average length of accounts: 4 years
1) Inspite of nice FICO score and "NEVER MISSED PAYMENT" , I got surprised when one of lender rejected my mortgage application due to following reason (s)
2) My fico report says negative factors which lowers my score is :
I have credit card with limit of $ 5000 and never exceeds this as I am very regular payer. Each month my due payment is around $2500-$3000 which I pay without fail. I never late for a single day in my 8 years of credit.
However credit score calculations are based on very ridiculous/ senseless rules.
I know even if you pay timely manner and not in need to increase credit limit , you are not trustworthy client.
what is your suggestion to get rid of above #1 and #2 issues?
Should I apply new credit card so that I have one more reference ? and also my credit usage will be low in percentage?
Will it affect the length of average account?
can someone suggest me some better approach?
Your help is highly appriciated.
thanks
DTS
@DTS wrote:Hi
My FICO score is : 760
Missed payment: Never on any account.
Accounts open : Credit card and Mortgage ( only two)
Lenght of oldest acct: 8 yeras
Average length of accounts: 4 years
1) Inspite of nice FICO score and "NEVER MISSED PAYMENT" , I got surprised when one of lender rejected my mortgage application due to following reason (s)
- Insufficient references for credit. ( I have only one credit card and one mortgage. )
2) My fico report says negative factors which lowers my score is :
- High usage of credit limit.
- Short credit history.
I have credit card with limit of $ 5000 and never exceeds this as I am very regular payer. Each month my due payment is around $2500-$3000 which I pay without fail. I never late for a single day in my 8 years of credit.
However credit score calculations are based on very ridiculous/ senseless rules.
I know even if you pay timely manner and not in need to increase credit limit , you are not trustworthy client.
what is your suggestion to get rid of above #1 and #2 issues?
Should I apply new credit card so that I have one more reference ? and also my credit usage will be low in percentage?
Will it affect the length of average account?
can someone suggest me some better approach?
Your help is highly appriciated.
thanks
DTS
Hello and welcome to the forums.
You write: I have credit card with limit of $ 5000 and never exceeds this as I am very regular payer. Each month my due payment is around $2500-$3000 which I pay without fail
If you wait until the statement posts to pay your balance then your utilization on a $3000 balance would be 60% (3000/5000). That's pretty high and also why your report says you are being penalized for high usage of credit limit. Try to have no more than 1-9% of your available credit report each month. On a credit limit of $5000 that would be no more than $450.
That doesn't mean you can't charge more than that each month but you have to make sure that you get your balance down to that 1-9% level before the statement posts each month. And then pay in full before the due date to avoid any finance charges.
This is just one way to improve your score.
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How should a person time this? Do you pay part 10 days in advance of the statement, and then pay again?
If you pay your card every month and they make no profit, the credit card companies call you a *deadbead*. Sooo...if they encourage you to pay off a card completely in advance of the statement date, isn't that against their best interest? If they train us all to follow their chickenhockey rules, won't they starve?
@woozy wrote:How should a person time this? Do you pay part 10 days in advance of the statement, and then pay again? You can
If you pay your card every month and they make no profit, the credit card companies call you a *deadbead*. Sooo...if they encourage you to pay off a card completely in advance of the statement date, isn't that against their best interest? If they train us all to follow their chickenhockey rules, won't they starve?
How should a person time this? Do you pay part 10 days in advance of the statement, and then pay again? You can time it anyway you want. Pay all through the month or pay all at once. You just have to have the knowledge when your particular statement posts each month and make sure you pay before then. And the willpower to follow through.
If you pay your card every month and they make no profit, the credit card companies call you a *deadbead*. They can call me whatever they want but I won't pay them interest for the privilege of using their card. They make money from merchants every time you or I swipe that card so they do allright. Don't feel sorry for them.
Sooo...if they encourage you to pay off a card completely in advance of the statement date, isn't that against their best interest? I never said the CCC's encourage this practice. The CCC's would never encourage anyone to pay in full. They WANT people to carry balances forward. The concept of PIF is anathema to them. It's in YOUR best interest to always PIF however.
If they train us all to follow their chickenhockey rules, won't they starve? No.
@haulingthescoreup wrote:
eta: good golly Moses, MVV out-typed me BAD this time.Message Edited by haulingthescoreup on 02-17-2010 04:11 PM
And your concession speech was beautiful!!!
DTS
I suggest to try to get a Credit Increase on your card as well, that will improve the utilization.
Also, paying off early before the statement date is basically a trick to bump your FICO score by showing lower utitlization. It is only useful to do a couple months before you are applying for credit (mortgage, auto loan, or new credit card). After that, just pay every month by due date like you always have.
Getting 1 or 2 more credit cards would also help for the future.
I made this up one day to keep track of my statement dates and due dates as info changes I update really easy to keep track of when to pay gotta luv excel I know some use quicken etc this works for me simple and quick. PIF all the way
Thanks marinevietvet , laz98 , woozy ,haulingthescoreup ,Wolf3 ,djse7en
for responding my concerns.
As a conclusion :
1) PIF before statement date will help to boost scrore.
2) If we have only one credit card with moderate limit, it is always better to have one more credit card . So credit utilization will be low and also it will add one more credit reference.
STILL ONE QUESTION:
Opening new Credit card account will shorten "Average age of your accounts" . ( FYI, My oldest account is 8 years old and average age of all accounts is 4 years)
How much "Average age of your accounts" contribute to credit score?
How much weightage mortgage companies give to "Average age of your accounts" factor while approving mortgage?