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JT44
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Statement date

Can someone please explain, or point me in the direction of a thread, that explains the strategy of when to PIF relative to the due date, but then there is something about the statement date as well? Plea explain! I get all of my statements online, so don't know when my statement date is.
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09Lexie
Moderator Emerita

Re: Statement date

Even with online statements, you can view your statements. The reason you would PIF before your statement cuts is if you want a 0 balance to report. If you wait until the statement* has cut and then PIF, that figure will be reported to CRAs.

for example, your XYZ Store Card is due on the 1st , your current balance is $100. You can either PIF between now and the 1st and do not use your card until after the statement cuts which is usually 4-5 days later. your new statement cuts 6th and since you PIF and did not use your card- your bal reported will be 0.

* some lenders report monthly balances not statement balances, for example DCU Visa.
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JT44
Valued Member

Re: Statement date

Ok I think I got it. And I really do want to show a 0$ balance, right? If I have no balance, does that still count towards utilization? Where do I actually find my statement date?
Started a little over a year ago: LOW 500's

Now as of /20/13: FICO EX: 709 TU: 706 EQ: 682
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09Lexie
Moderator Emerita

Re: Statement date

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Anonymous
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Re: Statement date

Typically, a credit card issuer reports your balance to the credit bureaus once a month.

 

A lot of credit card issuers report your balance on your statement date.  This is the day that the credit card company sets to close your statement and set the amount due by your due date.  Every credit card issuer is different as to when your statement date is.  Some are on a XX day cycle (e.g. 30 days being typical).  As such, your statement date will move from month to month.  Other credit card issuers keep their statement date the same date every month.  I know of a few credit card issuers (e.g. credit unions) that have everyone on the same statement date.  Easiest way to find out is to call customer service and ask about their statement cycle.  Also remember there can and often is a difference between when you pay and when payment goes against your balance.  As such, if you are trying to report 0 balance, don't wait till last minute to pay.  Once again, customer service can help you answer the question of timing.

 

While statement date is by far the most common date that is reported to credit bureaus, it is not the only date.  Some credit card issuers report to credit bureaus on a certain date.  The fact is there is no rules that regulate this which can be frustrating if you are trying to manage your reported utilization.  There have been cases of credit card issuers either reporting more frequently than once a month or not for a while.  Again, the best idea is to either ask on forum such as this and/or call the customer service to see when they report balance to credit bureaus.  As FYI, some credit card issuers will report your balance when you ask them to so worth a call if you need to raise your score a little.

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djc1puno
Valued Contributor

Re: Statement date


@Anonymous wrote:

Typically, a credit card issuer reports your balance to the credit bureaus once a month.

 

A lot of credit card issuers report your balance on your statement date.  This is the day that the credit card company sets to close your statement and set the amount due by your due date.  Every credit card issuer is different as to when your statement date is.  Some are on a XX day cycle (e.g. 30 days being typical).  As such, your statement date will move from month to month.  Other credit card issuers keep their statement date the same date every month.  I know of a few credit card issuers (e.g. credit unions) that have everyone on the same statement date.  Easiest way to find out is to call customer service and ask about their statement cycle.  Also remember there can and often is a difference between when you pay and when payment goes against your balance.  As such, if you are trying to report 0 balance, don't wait till last minute to pay.  Once again, customer service can help you answer the question of timing.

 

While statement date is by far the most common date that is reported to credit bureaus, it is not the only date.  Some credit card issuers report to credit bureaus on a certain date.  The fact is there is no rules that regulate this which can be frustrating if you are trying to manage your reported utilization.  There have been cases of credit card issuers either reporting more frequently than once a month or not for a while.  Again, the best idea is to either ask on forum such as this and/or call the customer service to see when they report balance to credit bureaus.  As FYI, some credit card issuers will report your balance when you ask them to so worth a call if you need to raise your score a little.


crashem...thanks for that last tidbit of information...did not know that Smiley Happy



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dddewdrop
Valued Contributor

Re: Statement date


@djc1puno wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Typically, a credit card issuer reports your balance to the credit bureaus once a month.

 

A lot of credit card issuers report your balance on your statement date.  This is the day that the credit card company sets to close your statement and set the amount due by your due date.  Every credit card issuer is different as to when your statement date is.  Some are on a XX day cycle (e.g. 30 days being typical).  As such, your statement date will move from month to month.  Other credit card issuers keep their statement date the same date every month.  I know of a few credit card issuers (e.g. credit unions) that have everyone on the same statement date.  Easiest way to find out is to call customer service and ask about their statement cycle.  Also remember there can and often is a difference between when you pay and when payment goes against your balance.  As such, if you are trying to report 0 balance, don't wait till last minute to pay.  Once again, customer service can help you answer the question of timing.

 

While statement date is by far the most common date that is reported to credit bureaus, it is not the only date.  Some credit card issuers report to credit bureaus on a certain date.  The fact is there is no rules that regulate this which can be frustrating if you are trying to manage your reported utilization.  There have been cases of credit card issuers either reporting more frequently than once a month or not for a while.  Again, the best idea is to either ask on forum such as this and/or call the customer service to see when they report balance to credit bureaus.  As FYI, some credit card issuers will report your balance when you ask them to so worth a call if you need to raise your score a little.


crashem...thanks for that last tidbit of information...did not know that Smiley Happy


Ya but most will not. Whatever your balance is on the statement date, that is the number that gets reported to the CRAs typically. So if you want to show a 0 balance for utilitsation maximising make sure your statement has a 0 balance.  You could pay every single bill as soon as you get it but if you had charged a lot that month you will not have maximised utilitsation unless your balance on the statement date is less than 9 percent of your credit limit. The statement date is key to understanding a lot of the principles of how to have the best fico score...

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dddewdrop
Valued Contributor

Re: Statement date

The previous poster is correct in stating that different cards do different things. Typically it is the statement date that is reported however. Get to know your cards. Watch them over a period of time and figure out when they report. All my cards report on the statement date except Walmart sometimes is a bit different. It seems like it might report around the first of the month sometimes which is not my statement date.  Even if you don't delve into all this minutiae, if you get the basics you will have good credit. The basics being: 

Pay your bills ontime. Don't borrow a lot of money on credit cards. If you do charge something pay it off as soon as possible. If you do all that you will be in good shape.

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takeshi74
Senior Contributor

Re: Statement date


@JT44 wrote:
Can someone please explain, or point me in the direction of a thread, that explains the strategy of when to PIF relative to the due date, but then there is something about the statement date as well?

You PIF by the due date to avoid interest.

 

You PIF before the statement date to avoid reporting a balance.

 


@09Lexie wrote:
The reason you would PIF before your statement cuts is if you want a 0 balance to report.

...or to have a lower balance in general reported (even if above 0).

 


@JT44 wrote:
Ok I think I got it. And I really do want to show a 0$ balance, right? If I have no balance, does that still count towards utilization? Where do I actually find my statement date?

You want overall utilization to be as low as possible but above 0.  Whether you want a specific account to be 0 or not is your call to make.

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Odiseous
Frequent Contributor

Re: Statement date


@Anonymous wrote:

Typically, a credit card issuer reports your balance to the credit bureaus once a month.

 

A lot of credit card issuers report your balance on your statement date.  This is the day that the credit card company sets to close your statement and set the amount due by your due date.  Every credit card issuer is different as to when your statement date is.  Some are on a XX day cycle (e.g. 30 days being typical).  As such, your statement date will move from month to month.  Other credit card issuers keep their statement date the same date every month.  I know of a few credit card issuers (e.g. credit unions) that have everyone on the same statement date.  Easiest way to find out is to call customer service and ask about their statement cycle.  Also remember there can and often is a difference between when you pay and when payment goes against your balance.  As such, if you are trying to report 0 balance, don't wait till last minute to pay.  Once again, customer service can help you answer the question of timing.

 

While statement date is by far the most common date that is reported to credit bureaus, it is not the only date.  Some credit card issuers report to credit bureaus on a certain date.  The fact is there is no rules that regulate this which can be frustrating if you are trying to manage your reported utilization.  There have been cases of credit card issuers either reporting more frequently than once a month or not for a while.  Again, the best idea is to either ask on forum such as this and/or call the customer service to see when they report balance to credit bureaus.  As FYI, some credit card issuers will report your balance when you ask them to so worth a call if you need to raise your score a little.


 

This can also work to your advantage sometimes.

 

For example: If you update your billing address (even if you just re-enter the same address info) with BofA, they will report that to the CRAs, with your current balance.

 

This can come in handy; if you misjudged when your payment would post, and it posted after the closing date.

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