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Too spree, not to spree, and which to spree on?

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efranklin23
Valued Contributor

Re: Too spree, not to spree, and which to spree on?


@Creditaddict wrote:

@Chris679 wrote:
Increasing the CL on your current cards can bump up the limits on new cards so yes do that first but you don't want HP and BoA will only do HP. I would get Cap One Quicksilver and Discover It to start. Wait 6 months or so and get Amex BCE then garden. These three of the best cash back cards with no fee.

I don't agree at all:

Cap1 will cost you 3 HP's, you could probably get approved for 3 completely seperate cards

and why do people think they need such long history and high scores to get Amex?!

the whole point of a spree is to do it all now and then garden, not get 2 cards and wait 6 months and get 2 more


+1 I agree, the OP is asking about a spree, not a conservative approach (although I prefer the conservatice approach better). I wouldn't ever apply for Cap1 as they pull all 3. OP should try to get CLIs on current cards and then go on the spree. Once the spree is over, garden for awhile so the accounts can age.

AMEX BCE (30K), DISCOVER IT (29.5K), NFCU CASH REWARDS (25K), BOA TRAVEL REWARDS (15K), USAA VISA (13K), CHASE SAPPHIRE RESERVE (13K), COMMENCE MASTERCARD (7.5K), CHASE FREEDOM (7K), CHASE FREEDOM (7K), TFCU CC (2.5K), TARGET REDCARD (900)
Message 11 of 27
itpromike
New Contributor

Re: Too spree, not to spree, and which to spree on?

Thank's all for the info and guidance, it is appreciated definitely. In terms of just high balance (so I can have a lot of credit to balance out utilization if/when I decide to use the cards) which cards would be my best bet to get the highest CL given my credit/financial profile?


Current Score: TransUnion (820) Equifax (818) Experian (823)
Message 12 of 27
itpromike
New Contributor

Re: Too spree, not to spree, and which to spree on?

Also would I have better luck asking for a CLI to $20k (seeing as my current CL is onl $1k) or going for a completely new card? On the one had since I have a previous relationship with the companies (Chase and BOA) I figure they might be generous... on the other hand since my limit is so low to begin with they might not. What do you think?


Current Score: TransUnion (820) Equifax (818) Experian (823)
Message 13 of 27
itpromike
New Contributor

Re: Too spree, not to spree, and which to spree on?

Any thoughts from anyone? This will be my first spree so I want to make sure it's successful. Smiley Happy


Current Score: TransUnion (820) Equifax (818) Experian (823)
Message 14 of 27
Themanwhocan
Senior Contributor

Re: Too spree, not to spree, and which to spree on?


@itpromike wrote:

Any thoughts from anyone? This will be my first spree so I want to make sure it's successful. Smiley Happy


How do you define success?

 

Obtaining 3 new cards? thats probably a shoo in.

 

Getting $20k on one card to start? Highly unlikely. But an American Express, like the Blue Cash Everyday, could easily get there and beyond in less than a year. Maybe even just 61 days with a tad bit of luck.

 

I suggest you concentrate on what spending categories you spend the most money in, and then finding the best reward cards for those categories. Once you know that, then you can determine the order in which to apply. That is NOT the order that you spend the most in, its the order in which the cards are easier to obtain Smiley Wink leave the more difficult ones for after you have 3-6 more months of credit history using the new, higher limit cards you are about to obtain in the first spree.

 

Oh yeah, and the Blue cards in my signature are pretty good cash back cards. just don't apply for the Shattner card. That one is mine...

 

http://boardingarea.com/frequentmiler/2012/11/09/best-category-bonuses/comment-page-3/#comment-36860...





TU-8: 804 EX-8: 805 EQ-8: 788 EX-98: 767 EQ-04: 752    
TU-9 Bankcard: 837 EQ-9: 823 EX-9 Bankcard: 837
Total $443,800
Message 15 of 27
itpromike
New Contributor

Re: Too spree, not to spree, and which to spree on?


@Themanwhocan wrote:

@itpromike wrote:

Any thoughts from anyone? This will be my first spree so I want to make sure it's successful. Smiley Happy


How do you define success?

 

Obtaining 3 new cards? thats probably a shoo in.

 

Getting $20k on one card to start? Highly unlikely. But an American Express, like the Blue Cash Everyday, could easily get there and beyond in less than a year. Maybe even just 61 days with a tad bit of luck.

 

I suggest you concentrate on what spending categories you spend the most money in, and then finding the best reward cards for those categories. Once you know that, then you can determine the order in which to apply. That is NOT the order that you spend the most in, its the order in which the cards are easier to obtain Smiley Wink leave the more difficult ones for after you have 3-6 more months of credit history using the new, higher limit cards you are about to obtain in the first spree.

 

Oh yeah, and the Blue cards in my signature are pretty good cash back cards. just don't apply for the Shattner card. That one is mine...

 

http://boardingarea.com/frequentmiler/2012/11/09/best-category-bonuses/comment-page-3/#comment-36860...


Thanks for the info mate Smiley Happy Interestingly enough I just called and asked for my BOA gold card to be lowered in interest rate (was currently 25% since I got it 10 years ago and barely used it) and I asked for my credit limit to be adjusted to $15K. The interest rate was immediately lowered to %14 (is this a good rate for BOA?) and they said that I would get an response within 3 business days about the rate increase. Additionally they are sending me a different card, a 'BoA Rewards 123' card to replace my gold card.

 

Is this 3 day waiting period normal considering my starting CL was on $1K or would they have approved it immediately if they were going to approve that kind of increase? It's probably a dumb question but my only frame of reference when dealing with credit cards was when I had bad credit many years ago and in that period usually if they had to get back to you, it meant no to your increase request. Also if they do get back to me and let's say $15K was too hgih, will they usually counter offer or just say no? I'd hate to waste an INQ on a denial...

 

Additionally how close or far apart should apps be in a spree? I just called for the BoA CLI tonight, should I/Could I call for the chase Freedome increase as well or wait a few days or it doesn't really matter?


Current Score: TransUnion (820) Equifax (818) Experian (823)
Message 16 of 27
B335is
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Too spree, not to spree, and which to spree on?

14% is good, on the better side in terms of bank cards. Yes BoA will counter. I always get half of my request but they're good with 6 month increases.

BoA likely pulled TU. Chase tends to pull EX, but has been known to pull others. Inquiries hit almost instantly so you might as well go for it now.
Message 17 of 27
Themanwhocan
Senior Contributor

Re: Too spree, not to spree, and which to spree on?


@itpromike wrote:

@Themanwhocan wrote:

@itpromike wrote:

Any thoughts from anyone? This will be my first spree so I want to make sure it's successful. Smiley Happy


How do you define success?

 

Obtaining 3 new cards? thats probably a shoo in.

 

Getting $20k on one card to start? Highly unlikely. But an American Express, like the Blue Cash Everyday, could easily get there and beyond in less than a year. Maybe even just 61 days with a tad bit of luck.

 

I suggest you concentrate on what spending categories you spend the most money in, and then finding the best reward cards for those categories. Once you know that, then you can determine the order in which to apply. That is NOT the order that you spend the most in, its the order in which the cards are easier to obtain Smiley Wink leave the more difficult ones for after you have 3-6 more months of credit history using the new, higher limit cards you are about to obtain in the first spree.

 

Oh yeah, and the Blue cards in my signature are pretty good cash back cards. just don't apply for the Shattner card. That one is mine...

 

http://boardingarea.com/frequentmiler/2012/11/09/best-category-bonuses/comment-page-3/#comment-36860...


Thanks for the info mate Smiley Happy Interestingly enough I just called and asked for my BOA gold card to be lowered in interest rate (was currently 25% since I got it 10 years ago and barely used it) and I asked for my credit limit to be adjusted to $15K. The interest rate was immediately lowered to %14 (is this a good rate for BOA?) and they said that I would get an response within 3 business days about the rate increase. Additionally they are sending me a different card, a 'BoA Rewards 123' card to replace my gold card.

 

Is this 3 day waiting period normal considering my starting CL was on $1K or would they have approved it immediately if they were going to approve that kind of increase? It's probably a dumb question but my only frame of reference when dealing with credit cards was when I had bad credit many years ago and in that period usually if they had to get back to you, it meant no to your increase request. Also if they do get back to me and let's say $15K was too hgih, will they usually counter offer or just say no? I'd hate to waste an INQ on a denial...

 

Additionally how close or far apart should apps be in a spree? I just called for the BoA CLI tonight, should I/Could I call for the chase Freedome increase as well or wait a few days or it doesn't really matter?


CLI 'spacing' doesn't really matter. The inquiry hits the credit report(or reports) immediately. Its when you apply for a new credit card that you get hit for the INQ immediately, and then a new credit line gets added to all 3 reports, but that part is delayed somewhat. So you apply for several cards close together hoping that your FICO score only gets lowered by each additional INQ, and not also by each additional credit line (you're assuming you will be approved, of course).





TU-8: 804 EX-8: 805 EQ-8: 788 EX-98: 767 EQ-04: 752    
TU-9 Bankcard: 837 EQ-9: 823 EX-9 Bankcard: 837
Total $443,800
Message 18 of 27
itpromike
New Contributor

Re: Too spree, not to spree, and which to spree on?


@Themanwhocan wrote:

 

CLI 'spacing' doesn't really matter. The inquiry hits the credit report(or reports) immediately. Its when you apply for a new credit card that you get hit for the INQ immediately, and then a new credit line gets added to all 3 reports, but that part is delayed somewhat. So you apply for several cards close together hoping that your FICO score only gets lowered by each additional INQ, and not also by each additional credit line (you're assuming you will be approved, of course).


 

Ok so here's an update.

 

1.) I called BoA with request for a CLI to $15K and got the 3 days waiting period so still waiting for that.

2.) I called chase and got a really rude person so then I hung up and called back and got a CLI from $1K to $5K however my interest rate is 27% and 'not eligible to be lowered at this time' which is crazy! I guess I wasted that INQ and should have just got a new card with them.

3.) Called for an Amex Blue Cash Preferred and got instantly approved for $8K with a 14% APR 

 

So... I'm guessing CLI's don't count towards a 'spree' technically but since both CLI's had a HP associated with them (got notified of one this morning) does it count or should I be able to do 1 or two more cards today?


Current Score: TransUnion (820) Equifax (818) Experian (823)
Message 19 of 27
Themanwhocan
Senior Contributor

Re: Too spree, not to spree, and which to spree on?

Each CLI request could have pulled more than one credit report, but hopefully not. And you generally don't know that for sure until much later. Hopefully they don't all pull the exact same credit report(s). So, the impact to your FICO scores can be fairly low if they just happen to be spread out a bit. If you got notified of only one HP on one of your reports, thats a pretty good sign for that reports corresponding FICO score.

 

I usually use the credit pulls database, and try to guesstimate what FICO a certain creditor will use. But often you only get an inclination as to what might be used. There are some exceptions, like Barclays always pulling TransUnion.

 

You may want to wait for the CLI's to be approved and have a chance to get added to your credit reports (just kinda guesstimate that). Then if you are ready you try applying for several new cards at the same time. You can even use different browsers and/or private-browsing and get all the card applications mostly filled out and then submit all at once, though I really dont think that level of timing is necessary.





TU-8: 804 EX-8: 805 EQ-8: 788 EX-98: 767 EQ-04: 752    
TU-9 Bankcard: 837 EQ-9: 823 EX-9 Bankcard: 837
Total $443,800
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