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bigbang91
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Re: Total CLI and AAoA question?

Yes-Its-Me<as i stated in my previous comment, I dream big and I would be fine with whatever they can hand out to me. And for CLI,as soon as you get your 12th statement,you can move credit away from it. I did so with my BCE,and this March i'm goin to receive my 12th statement with the ED. Does Amex counter offer me or they will deny outright? They did counteroffer me once though. I have the tax form but dont want to send it to Amex cause its kind of intrusive. By the move i mentioned earlier,it would make none of my CLi over 25k,and a total CLI of 37k.

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Anonymous
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Re: Total CLI and AAoA question?


@bigbang91 wrote:

Yes-Its-Me<as i stated in my previous comment, I dream big and I would be fine with whatever they can hand out to me. And for CLI,as soon as you get your 12th statement,you can move credit away from it. I did so with my BCE,and this March i'm goin to receive my 12th statement with the ED. Does Amex counter offer me or they will deny outright? They did counteroffer me once though. I have the tax form but dont want to send it to Amex cause its kind of intrusive. By the move i mentioned earlier,it would make none of my CLi over 25k,and a total CLI of 37k.


@bigbang91,

 

Sorry I missed your income.  Too much wineSmiley Tongue  Ok, there is nothing wrong in dreaming big.  We always have to.  Amex will always counter if they don't think you qualify for what you ask for.  Whatever you decide to do, please report back. Also, i don't think moving limit from one card to another will affect your 3XCLI with Amex.

Message 12 of 24
NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Total CLI and AAoA question?


@bigbang91 wrote:

Yes-Its-Me<as i stated in my previous comment, I dream big and I would be fine with whatever they can hand out to me. And for CLI,as soon as you get your 12th statement,you can move credit away from it. I did so with my BCE,and this March i'm goin to receive my 12th statement with the ED. Does Amex counter offer me or they will deny outright? They did counteroffer me once though. I have the tax form but dont want to send it to Amex cause its kind of intrusive. By the move i mentioned earlier,it would make none of my CLi over 25k,and a total CLI of 37k.


Just to try to clarify, just because it is a 3x CLI opportunity, does not mean the request has to always be for 3x. you could ask for a CLI that increases your current line by only $1k for example.


And, AMEX is never going to give you a CL of 100% of your income. Full stop. The usually discussed range is something like 40% maximum, but don't quote me on that, because it also depends on your internal score with AMEX. Even to get to that ~40% (especially to get to something like 40%) and to get to a counter if you are shooting the moon, you are going to have to send in your 4506-T unless your dice roll is really lucky.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
Message 13 of 24
bigbang91
Established Contributor

Re: Total CLI and AAoA question?


@NRB525 wrote:

@bigbang91 wrote:

Yes-Its-Me<as i stated in my previous comment, I dream big and I would be fine with whatever they can hand out to me. And for CLI,as soon as you get your 12th statement,you can move credit away from it. I did so with my BCE,and this March i'm goin to receive my 12th statement with the ED. Does Amex counter offer me or they will deny outright? They did counteroffer me once though. I have the tax form but dont want to send it to Amex cause its kind of intrusive. By the move i mentioned earlier,it would make none of my CLi over 25k,and a total CLI of 37k.


Just to try to clarify, just because it is a 3x CLI opportunity, does not mean the request has to always be for 3x. you could ask for a CLI that increases your current line by only $1k for example.


And, AMEX is never going to give you a CL of 100% of your income. Full stop. The usually discussed range is something like 40% maximum, but don't quote me on that, because it also depends on your internal score with AMEX. Even to get to that ~40% (especially to get to something like 40%) and to get to a counter if you are shooting the moon, you are going to have to send in your 4506-T unless your dice roll is really lucky.


Oh no, with Amex at 60k and all my other CLi then its match my income. Otherwise, a 60k amex cli is around 40% my income. 

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bigbang91
Established Contributor

Re: Total CLI and AAoA question?

 


@Anonymous wrote:

@bigbang91 wrote:

Yes-Its-Me<as i stated in my previous comment, I dream big and I would be fine with whatever they can hand out to me. And for CLI,as soon as you get your 12th statement,you can move credit away from it. I did so with my BCE,and this March i'm goin to receive my 12th statement with the ED. Does Amex counter offer me or they will deny outright? They did counteroffer me once though. I have the tax form but dont want to send it to Amex cause its kind of intrusive. By the move i mentioned earlier,it would make none of my CLi over 25k,and a total CLI of 37k.


@bigbang91,

 

Sorry I missed your income.  Too much wineSmiley Tongue  Ok, there is nothing wrong in dreaming big.  We always have to.  Amex will always counter if they don't think you qualify for what you ask for.  Whatever you decide to do, please report back. Also, i don't think moving limit from one card to another will affect your 3XCLI with Amex.


    I will report back soon,hope i get a nice CLi in time for springbreak. 

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disdreamin
Valued Contributor

Re: Total CLI and AAoA question?


@bigbang91 wrote:

@NRB525 wrote:

@bigbang91 wrote:

Yes-Its-Me<as i stated in my previous comment, I dream big and I would be fine with whatever they can hand out to me. And for CLI,as soon as you get your 12th statement,you can move credit away from it. I did so with my BCE,and this March i'm goin to receive my 12th statement with the ED. Does Amex counter offer me or they will deny outright? They did counteroffer me once though. I have the tax form but dont want to send it to Amex cause its kind of intrusive. By the move i mentioned earlier,it would make none of my CLi over 25k,and a total CLI of 37k.


Just to try to clarify, just because it is a 3x CLI opportunity, does not mean the request has to always be for 3x. you could ask for a CLI that increases your current line by only $1k for example.


And, AMEX is never going to give you a CL of 100% of your income. Full stop. The usually discussed range is something like 40% maximum, but don't quote me on that, because it also depends on your internal score with AMEX. Even to get to that ~40% (especially to get to something like 40%) and to get to a counter if you are shooting the moon, you are going to have to send in your 4506-T unless your dice roll is really lucky.


Oh no, with Amex at 60k and all my other CLi then its match my income. Otherwise, a 60k amex cli is around 40% my income. 


Ah, okay.  So here's another question for you.  I think you posted in another thread that your spend is between $7k and $10k a month.  I'm trying to do the math and coming up with some of this being business expenses perhaps.  Otherwise the numbers just don't seem to line up.  Is this in the territory where you might want to have a separate business card?

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Total CLI and AAoA question?


@bigbang91 wrote:

@NRB525 wrote:

@bigbang91 wrote:

Yes-Its-Me<as i stated in my previous comment, I dream big and I would be fine with whatever they can hand out to me. And for CLI,as soon as you get your 12th statement,you can move credit away from it. I did so with my BCE,and this March i'm goin to receive my 12th statement with the ED. Does Amex counter offer me or they will deny outright? They did counteroffer me once though. I have the tax form but dont want to send it to Amex cause its kind of intrusive. By the move i mentioned earlier,it would make none of my CLi over 25k,and a total CLI of 37k.


Just to try to clarify, just because it is a 3x CLI opportunity, does not mean the request has to always be for 3x. you could ask for a CLI that increases your current line by only $1k for example.


And, AMEX is never going to give you a CL of 100% of your income. Full stop. The usually discussed range is something like 40% maximum, but don't quote me on that, because it also depends on your internal score with AMEX. Even to get to that ~40% (especially to get to something like 40%) and to get to a counter if you are shooting the moon, you are going to have to send in your 4506-T unless your dice roll is really lucky.


Oh no, with Amex at 60k and all my other CLi then its match my income. Otherwise, a 60k amex cli is around 40% my income. 


Ok, well it is difficult to put together the bits and pieces of this thread with all the various proportions.

And for reference, a CLI is a Credit Line Increase, amount of change.

A CL is the Credit Line, the final amount

 

Smiley Happy

 

Good luck with the shoot the moon request! I'm going to be maxing my May request to $27k. I too would probably go higher but 9k is my starting lever.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
Message 17 of 24
Anonymous
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Re: Total CLI and AAoA question?

@bigbang91,

 

Looking forward to the results.

Message 18 of 24
bigbang91
Established Contributor

Re: Total CLI and AAoA question?


@disdreamin wrote:

@bigbang91 wrote:

@NRB525 wrote:

@bigbang91 wrote:

Yes-Its-Me<as i stated in my previous comment, I dream big and I would be fine with whatever they can hand out to me. And for CLI,as soon as you get your 12th statement,you can move credit away from it. I did so with my BCE,and this March i'm goin to receive my 12th statement with the ED. Does Amex counter offer me or they will deny outright? They did counteroffer me once though. I have the tax form but dont want to send it to Amex cause its kind of intrusive. By the move i mentioned earlier,it would make none of my CLi over 25k,and a total CLI of 37k.


Just to try to clarify, just because it is a 3x CLI opportunity, does not mean the request has to always be for 3x. you could ask for a CLI that increases your current line by only $1k for example.


And, AMEX is never going to give you a CL of 100% of your income. Full stop. The usually discussed range is something like 40% maximum, but don't quote me on that, because it also depends on your internal score with AMEX. Even to get to that ~40% (especially to get to something like 40%) and to get to a counter if you are shooting the moon, you are going to have to send in your 4506-T unless your dice roll is really lucky.


Oh no, with Amex at 60k and all my other CLi then its match my income. Otherwise, a 60k amex cli is around 40% my income. 


Ah, okay.  So here's another question for you.  I think you posted in another thread that your spend is between $7k and $10k a month.  I'm trying to do the math and coming up with some of this being business expenses perhaps.  Otherwise the numbers just don't seem to line up.  Is this in the territory where you might want to have a separate business card?


My sister told me to use it this way so that my personal credit file will be thick enough, and all the CLi look nice. Im looking for a mortage next year. Thats why im trying to grow my cli as high as i can. To my understand, business card will appear in a different file right? 

Message 19 of 24
takeshi74
Senior Contributor

Re: Total CLI and AAoA question?


@bigbang91 wrote:

They did counteroffer me once though. I have the tax form but dont want to send it to Amex cause its kind of intrusive. 


If that's the case then you don't want to request a CLI from 20K to 60K.  Read the 3x CLI Guide.

 

However, if you've already run into the 4506-T and didn't follow through then you'll probably run into it again anyway.

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