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emptypockets
Valued Contributor

Re: Trying to help a friend ULTI question.


@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

Ok she has 15 accounts. Right now 7 of them have balances. Her total ULTI is 21%.

She just had her hours cut at work and can only pay the minimum payments but she also wants to try to raise her scores.

So should she BT some of the accounts to condense down to 3 accounts.  Leaving 12 accounts reporting zero and 3 reporting 60%-70% or just leave as it.

What would best help her score wise. She can pay the min on all 7 accounts right now so she doesn't need a BT to have less money going out but I think it would help to pay the extra min payments to only 3 accounts and having less cards with a balance would be better score wise. Am I right? Advice please.


In her current situation I would worry more about the payments VS scores 

And this is why scores are going to suffer either way because Fico scoring will pick up on the large balances be it one two or three cards and with UTL over 70% on any card you'll be dinged for each card scoring wise.

 

So she has to decide based on these factors 

1) are the BT fees worth the move.... Increasing balances again 

2) can she just leave the balances were they are and make payments and how long before she's able to increase payments 


It could be 6 months before hours come back. We live in a very touristy area. Right now the area will be shut down again until mid July for the fall leaf season.


Comes down to how much the BT fees are and how much she can save 

Are any of the cards under $0% Long term?


One card she just got with a 0% BT with no fee.

other 2 have 3% transfer fee.

If she could get her scores up then maybe she could get an installment loan. She mentioned that. I think she said her scores were 650ish across all 3.


Are there any cards that do SP CLI that could get high enough to handle a large BT 


I guess it depends on what cards she has. Barclays (which will require a HP) seems to be pretty lenient with CLI's fo BT's. That is the problem with credit, you can't get it when you need it, which is why it is good to always keep a BT card around for situations like this.


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Message 11 of 24
myjourney
Super Contributor

Re: Trying to help a friend ULTI question.


@emptypockets wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

Ok she has 15 accounts. Right now 7 of them have balances. Her total ULTI is 21%.

She just had her hours cut at work and can only pay the minimum payments but she also wants to try to raise her scores.

So should she BT some of the accounts to condense down to 3 accounts.  Leaving 12 accounts reporting zero and 3 reporting 60%-70% or just leave as it.

What would best help her score wise. She can pay the min on all 7 accounts right now so she doesn't need a BT to have less money going out but I think it would help to pay the extra min payments to only 3 accounts and having less cards with a balance would be better score wise. Am I right? Advice please.


In her current situation I would worry more about the payments VS scores 

And this is why scores are going to suffer either way because Fico scoring will pick up on the large balances be it one two or three cards and with UTL over 70% on any card you'll be dinged for each card scoring wise.

 

So she has to decide based on these factors 

1) are the BT fees worth the move.... Increasing balances again 

2) can she just leave the balances were they are and make payments and how long before she's able to increase payments 


It could be 6 months before hours come back. We live in a very touristy area. Right now the area will be shut down again until mid July for the fall leaf season.


Comes down to how much the BT fees are and how much she can save 

Are any of the cards under $0% Long term?


One card she just got with a 0% BT with no fee.

other 2 have 3% transfer fee.

If she could get her scores up then maybe she could get an installment loan. She mentioned that. I think she said her scores were 650ish across all 3.


Are there any cards that do SP CLI that could get high enough to handle a large BT 


I guess it depends on what cards she has. Barclays (which will require a HP) seems to be pretty lenient with CLI's fo BT's. That is the problem with credit, you can't get it when you need it, which is why it is good to always keep a BT card around for situations like this.


Yeah that's what i'm asking OP Lol 

Which cards does friend have 

Before you app think...
Have you done your research of the CC?
Does it fit your spending?
Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
Can you afford the AF?
Do you know the cards benefits? Is it worth the HP?
Message 12 of 24
fltn
Frequent Contributor

Re: Trying to help a friend ULTI question.


@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

Ok she has 15 accounts. Right now 7 of them have balances. Her total ULTI is 21%.

She just had her hours cut at work and can only pay the minimum payments but she also wants to try to raise her scores.

So should she BT some of the accounts to condense down to 3 accounts.  Leaving 12 accounts reporting zero and 3 reporting 60%-70% or just leave as it.

What would best help her score wise. She can pay the min on all 7 accounts right now so she doesn't need a BT to have less money going out but I think it would help to pay the extra min payments to only 3 accounts and having less cards with a balance would be better score wise. Am I right? Advice please.


In her current situation I would worry more about the payments VS scores 

And this is why scores are going to suffer either way because Fico scoring will pick up on the large balances be it one two or three cards and with UTL over 70% on any card you'll be dinged for each card scoring wise.

 

So she has to decide based on these factors 

1) are the BT fees worth the move.... Increasing balances again 

2) can she just leave the balances were they are and make payments and how long before she's able to increase payments 


It could be 6 months before hours come back. We live in a very touristy area. Right now the area will be shut down again until mid July for the fall leaf season.


Comes down to how much the BT fees are and how much she can save 

Are any of the cards under $0% Long term?


One card she just got with a 0% BT with no fee.

other 2 have 3% transfer fee.

If she could get her scores up then maybe she could get an installment loan. She mentioned that. I think she said her scores were 650ish across all 3.


Are there any cards that do SP CLI that could get high enough to handle a large BT 


All accounts have been CLIed this month. 

Currently "freezing" in the garden!
Message 13 of 24
fltn
Frequent Contributor

Re: Trying to help a friend ULTI question.


@myjourney wrote:

@emptypockets wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

Ok she has 15 accounts. Right now 7 of them have balances. Her total ULTI is 21%.

She just had her hours cut at work and can only pay the minimum payments but she also wants to try to raise her scores.

So should she BT some of the accounts to condense down to 3 accounts.  Leaving 12 accounts reporting zero and 3 reporting 60%-70% or just leave as it.

What would best help her score wise. She can pay the min on all 7 accounts right now so she doesn't need a BT to have less money going out but I think it would help to pay the extra min payments to only 3 accounts and having less cards with a balance would be better score wise. Am I right? Advice please.


In her current situation I would worry more about the payments VS scores 

And this is why scores are going to suffer either way because Fico scoring will pick up on the large balances be it one two or three cards and with UTL over 70% on any card you'll be dinged for each card scoring wise.

 

So she has to decide based on these factors 

1) are the BT fees worth the move.... Increasing balances again 

2) can she just leave the balances were they are and make payments and how long before she's able to increase payments 


It could be 6 months before hours come back. We live in a very touristy area. Right now the area will be shut down again until mid July for the fall leaf season.


Comes down to how much the BT fees are and how much she can save 

Are any of the cards under $0% Long term?


One card she just got with a 0% BT with no fee.

other 2 have 3% transfer fee.

If she could get her scores up then maybe she could get an installment loan. She mentioned that. I think she said her scores were 650ish across all 3.


Are there any cards that do SP CLI that could get high enough to handle a large BT 


I guess it depends on what cards she has. Barclays (which will require a HP) seems to be pretty lenient with CLI's fo BT's. That is the problem with credit, you can't get it when you need it, which is why it is good to always keep a BT card around for situations like this.


Yeah that's what i'm asking OP Lol 

Which cards does friend have 


Barclays NFL, Discover, NFCU, FNBO (0 balance with BT offer), BOA, and GE and some other store cards.

Currently "freezing" in the garden!
Message 14 of 24
myjourney
Super Contributor

Re: Trying to help a friend ULTI question.


@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

Ok she has 15 accounts. Right now 7 of them have balances. Her total ULTI is 21%.

She just had her hours cut at work and can only pay the minimum payments but she also wants to try to raise her scores.

So should she BT some of the accounts to condense down to 3 accounts.  Leaving 12 accounts reporting zero and 3 reporting 60%-70% or just leave as it.

What would best help her score wise. She can pay the min on all 7 accounts right now so she doesn't need a BT to have less money going out but I think it would help to pay the extra min payments to only 3 accounts and having less cards with a balance would be better score wise. Am I right? Advice please.


In her current situation I would worry more about the payments VS scores 

And this is why scores are going to suffer either way because Fico scoring will pick up on the large balances be it one two or three cards and with UTL over 70% on any card you'll be dinged for each card scoring wise.

 

So she has to decide based on these factors 

1) are the BT fees worth the move.... Increasing balances again 

2) can she just leave the balances were they are and make payments and how long before she's able to increase payments 


It could be 6 months before hours come back. We live in a very touristy area. Right now the area will be shut down again until mid July for the fall leaf season.


Comes down to how much the BT fees are and how much she can save 

Are any of the cards under $0% Long term?


One card she just got with a 0% BT with no fee.

other 2 have 3% transfer fee.

If she could get her scores up then maybe she could get an installment loan. She mentioned that. I think she said her scores were 650ish across all 3.


Are there any cards that do SP CLI that could get high enough to handle a large BT 


All accounts have been CLIed this month. 


Ok that's out...

Best just to see how much she/he can save minus BT fees and move to the 3 cards then 

Before you app think...
Have you done your research of the CC?
Does it fit your spending?
Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
Can you afford the AF?
Do you know the cards benefits? Is it worth the HP?
Message 15 of 24
fltn
Frequent Contributor

Re: Trying to help a friend ULTI question.


@emptypockets wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

Ok she has 15 accounts. Right now 7 of them have balances. Her total ULTI is 21%.

She just had her hours cut at work and can only pay the minimum payments but she also wants to try to raise her scores.

So should she BT some of the accounts to condense down to 3 accounts.  Leaving 12 accounts reporting zero and 3 reporting 60%-70% or just leave as it.

What would best help her score wise. She can pay the min on all 7 accounts right now so she doesn't need a BT to have less money going out but I think it would help to pay the extra min payments to only 3 accounts and having less cards with a balance would be better score wise. Am I right? Advice please.


In her current situation I would worry more about the payments VS scores 

And this is why scores are going to suffer either way because Fico scoring will pick up on the large balances be it one two or three cards and with UTL over 70% on any card you'll be dinged for each card scoring wise.

 

So she has to decide based on these factors 

1) are the BT fees worth the move.... Increasing balances again 

2) can she just leave the balances were they are and make payments and how long before she's able to increase payments 


It could be 6 months before hours come back. We live in a very touristy area. Right now the area will be shut down again until mid July for the fall leaf season.


Comes down to how much the BT fees are and how much she can save 

Are any of the cards under $0% Long term?


One card she just got with a 0% BT with no fee.

other 2 have 3% transfer fee.

If she could get her scores up then maybe she could get an installment loan. She mentioned that. I think she said her scores were 650ish across all 3.


Are there any cards that do SP CLI that could get high enough to handle a large BT 


I guess it depends on what cards she has. Barclays (which will require a HP) seems to be pretty lenient with CLI's fo BT's. That is the problem with credit, you can't get it when you need it, which is why it is good to always keep a BT card around for situations like this.


So you think Barclays would raise a limit for a BT? Do you usually offer a 0% or normal APR? I didn't know they would raise for a BT. Good to know.

Currently "freezing" in the garden!
Message 16 of 24
H4LO
Established Contributor

Re: Trying to help a friend ULTI question.

Chase Slate or Citi Simplicity.

 

Manufacture Spend on one of the mentioned cards above to get the money required to pay off the other cards.

Easy way to get around the BT fee. 



Total CL - 60K // Util. ~1.6%

772 TU - 6/5 ///// 705 EX - 5/5 ///// 664 EQ - 4/29
Message 17 of 24
fltn
Frequent Contributor

Re: Trying to help a friend ULTI question.


@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

Ok she has 15 accounts. Right now 7 of them have balances. Her total ULTI is 21%.

She just had her hours cut at work and can only pay the minimum payments but she also wants to try to raise her scores.

So should she BT some of the accounts to condense down to 3 accounts.  Leaving 12 accounts reporting zero and 3 reporting 60%-70% or just leave as it.

What would best help her score wise. She can pay the min on all 7 accounts right now so she doesn't need a BT to have less money going out but I think it would help to pay the extra min payments to only 3 accounts and having less cards with a balance would be better score wise. Am I right? Advice please.


In her current situation I would worry more about the payments VS scores 

And this is why scores are going to suffer either way because Fico scoring will pick up on the large balances be it one two or three cards and with UTL over 70% on any card you'll be dinged for each card scoring wise.

 

So she has to decide based on these factors 

1) are the BT fees worth the move.... Increasing balances again 

2) can she just leave the balances were they are and make payments and how long before she's able to increase payments 


It could be 6 months before hours come back. We live in a very touristy area. Right now the area will be shut down again until mid July for the fall leaf season.


Comes down to how much the BT fees are and how much she can save 

Are any of the cards under $0% Long term?


One card she just got with a 0% BT with no fee.

other 2 have 3% transfer fee.

If she could get her scores up then maybe she could get an installment loan. She mentioned that. I think she said her scores were 650ish across all 3.


Are there any cards that do SP CLI that could get high enough to handle a large BT 


All accounts have been CLIed this month. 


Ok that's out...

Best just to see how much she/he can save minus BT fees and move to the 3 cards then 


That's my thought. Just worry about 3 bills instead of 7. Worry about score later.

Thanks for all of the replies. I wanted to make sure I was not going to give bad advise.

Currently "freezing" in the garden!
Message 18 of 24
fltn
Frequent Contributor

Re: Trying to help a friend ULTI question.


@H4LO wrote:

Chase Slate or Citi Simplicity.

 

Manufacture Spend on one of the mentioned cards above to get the money required to pay off the other cards.

Easy way to get around the BT fee. 


I'll have to look into that.

Currently "freezing" in the garden!
Message 19 of 24
myjourney
Super Contributor

Re: Trying to help a friend ULTI question.


@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

@myjourney wrote:

@fltn wrote:

Ok she has 15 accounts. Right now 7 of them have balances. Her total ULTI is 21%.

She just had her hours cut at work and can only pay the minimum payments but she also wants to try to raise her scores.

So should she BT some of the accounts to condense down to 3 accounts.  Leaving 12 accounts reporting zero and 3 reporting 60%-70% or just leave as it.

What would best help her score wise. She can pay the min on all 7 accounts right now so she doesn't need a BT to have less money going out but I think it would help to pay the extra min payments to only 3 accounts and having less cards with a balance would be better score wise. Am I right? Advice please.


In her current situation I would worry more about the payments VS scores 

And this is why scores are going to suffer either way because Fico scoring will pick up on the large balances be it one two or three cards and with UTL over 70% on any card you'll be dinged for each card scoring wise.

 

So she has to decide based on these factors 

1) are the BT fees worth the move.... Increasing balances again 

2) can she just leave the balances were they are and make payments and how long before she's able to increase payments 


It could be 6 months before hours come back. We live in a very touristy area. Right now the area will be shut down again until mid July for the fall leaf season.


Comes down to how much the BT fees are and how much she can save 

Are any of the cards under $0% Long term?


One card she just got with a 0% BT with no fee.

other 2 have 3% transfer fee.

If she could get her scores up then maybe she could get an installment loan. She mentioned that. I think she said her scores were 650ish across all 3.


Are there any cards that do SP CLI that could get high enough to handle a large BT 


All accounts have been CLIed this month. 


Ok that's out...

Best just to see how much she/he can save minus BT fees and move to the 3 cards then 


That's my thought. Just worry about 3 bills instead of 7. Worry about score later.

Thanks for all of the replies. I wanted to make sure I was not going to give bad advise.


Yep 

Before you app think...
Have you done your research of the CC?
Does it fit your spending?
Do you have a plan for the bonus w/o going into debt?
Can you afford the AF?
Do you know the cards benefits? Is it worth the HP?
Message 20 of 24
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