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Utilizing a 0% APR on purchases offer

I have a very interesting scenario I could use some advice on. As many of you know there are quite a few credit cards out there now with very good 0% APR introductory rates for as long as 18 months. I recently ran into a snag while refinancing my home and am considering opening one of these cards to pay down my mortgage. Here are the facts:

 

1) I just had my FICO scores pulled by the mortgage company, they were reported to me as all being between 765 and 790. I've always had excellent credit.

2) I currently have 5 credit cards with very low utilization (between 1 and 5% on all, and I do use all of them on various purchase categories)

3) My total credit line on those cards is 90K USD

4) My current mortgage is for 218k on a house that appraised at 246k (this is the crux of the issue, it appraised during refi at approximately 30k lower than anyone, myself included was expecting for a multitude of reasons mostly based on unfortunate circumstance. Such as 0 comps being sold in my area over the past year and a half)

5) I have 31K outstanding in studen loans

6) I have never missed or been late with a payment on any of my credit lines for the entirety of my life. I have 0 negative remarks on my credit reports.

7) My oldest credit card is 10 years old. And I have 3 very new (less than one year) credit cards. I've held my mortgage for 6 years. Student loans have been paid for the last 9 years.

 

All that said because of the appraisal value I need to pay down 20K on the existing mortgage to remove PMI. I have this cash, I can do it with savings, however It would seriously deplete my reserves. So much so that I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that. My PMI payment is roughly $103/mo.

 

I am wondering if applying for a 0% APR chase slate card (I'm assuming the credit limit would be close to my other higher CL credit cards at around 24K) and using that to pay down the 20 or so grand needed to remove PMI is worth it. I would have 0 issue paying it off as I am able to save roughly 3K a month and also already have the cash reserves. I don't know how badly my credit scores will be affected carrying a balance that high on a brand new credit line over an extended period of time. Any help would be appreciated.

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Creditaddict
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Re: Utilizing a 0% APR on purchases offer

Well it wouldn't be a purchase still because the mortgage company won't take a payment with a credit card... you would have to balance transfer the money into your personal checking account and then send bill pay or check to your mortgage to pay it down.

Are you refinancing or does the PMI just go away as soon as it's below the balance?

If you don't need to refi then who cares what your credit does for 12 months as you slowly pay on this balance it won't matter! but none the less I wouldn't be to concerned to have 1 card at a higher balance when the others are basically paid off.

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Anonymous
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Re: Utilizing a 0% APR on purchases offer


@Creditaddict wrote:

Well it wouldn't be a purchase still because the mortgage company won't take a payment with a credit card... you would have to balance transfer the money into your personal checking account and then send bill pay or check to your mortgage to pay it down.

Are you refinancing or does the PMI just go away as soon as it's below the balance?

If you don't need to refi then who cares what your credit does for 12 months as you slowly pay on this balance it won't matter! but none the less I wouldn't be to concerned to have 1 card at a higher balance when the others are basically paid off.


My guess is the OP wants to run purchases and pay min or just above min instead of PIF and send the difference to mortgage to pay down quicker.

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red259
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Re: Utilizing a 0% APR on purchases offer


@Anonymous wrote:

I have a very interesting scenario I could use some advice on. As many of you know there are quite a few credit cards out there now with very good 0% APR introductory rates for as long as 18 months. I recently ran into a snag while refinancing my home and am considering opening one of these cards to pay down my mortgage. Here are the facts:

 

1) I just had my FICO scores pulled by the mortgage company, they were reported to me as all being between 765 and 790. I've always had excellent credit.

2) I currently have 5 credit cards with very low utilization (between 1 and 5% on all, and I do use all of them on various purchase categories)

3) My total credit line on those cards is 90K USD

4) My current mortgage is for 218k on a house that appraised at 246k (this is the crux of the issue, it appraised during refi at approximately 30k lower than anyone, myself included was expecting for a multitude of reasons mostly based on unfortunate circumstance. Such as 0 comps being sold in my area over the past year and a half)

5) I have 31K outstanding in studen loans

6) I have never missed or been late with a payment on any of my credit lines for the entirety of my life. I have 0 negative remarks on my credit reports.

7) My oldest credit card is 10 years old. And I have 3 very new (less than one year) credit cards. I've held my mortgage for 6 years. Student loans have been paid for the last 9 years.

 

All that said because of the appraisal value I need to pay down 20K on the existing mortgage to remove PMI. I have this cash, I can do it with savings, however It would seriously deplete my reserves. So much so that I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that. My PMI payment is roughly $103/mo.

 

I am wondering if applying for a 0% APR chase slate card (I'm assuming the credit limit would be close to my other higher CL credit cards at around 24K) and using that to pay down the 20 or so grand needed to remove PMI is worth it. I would have 0 issue paying it off as I am able to save roughly 3K a month and also already have the cash reserves. I don't know how badly my credit scores will be affected carrying a balance that high on a brand new credit line over an extended period of time. Any help would be appreciated.


Your credit score will take a major hit and I would think in this scenario you may want to PIF your other cards before statement cuts to keep overall util down as much as possible. That being said If your making 3k payments each month on the card then the balance will come down quickly I figure your lenders would be ok with it. Your score will rebound as the balance comes down. The only concern I would have is that you have three very new cards and lenders could see you carrying a large balance and opening up multiple new accounts and wonder what is up. 

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Creditaddict
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Re: Utilizing a 0% APR on purchases offer


@Anonymous wrote:

@Creditaddict wrote:

Well it wouldn't be a purchase still because the mortgage company won't take a payment with a credit card... you would have to balance transfer the money into your personal checking account and then send bill pay or check to your mortgage to pay it down.

Are you refinancing or does the PMI just go away as soon as it's below the balance?

If you don't need to refi then who cares what your credit does for 12 months as you slowly pay on this balance it won't matter! but none the less I wouldn't be to concerned to have 1 card at a higher balance when the others are basically paid off.


My guess is the OP wants to run purchases and pay min or just above min instead of PIF and send the difference to mortgage to pay down quicker.


If you do that, get a Citi card with rewards and longer 0%... Slate has no rewards and should not be applied for or used for anything other than BT! (in my opinion!)

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Chris679
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Re: Utilizing a 0% APR on purchases offer

I think your going to have a hard time getting a high CL on a balance transfer card but if you can do it and save money then go for it.
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Anonymous
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Re: Utilizing a 0% APR on purchases offer

Yes I would basically be using the card for all purchases and normal spend and only making min payments on it for a while til I had the 20k paid down on the mortgage. Then pay off the card before the 0% APR period runs out.

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Anonymous
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@Anonymous wrote:

Yes I would basically be using the card for all purchases and normal spend and only making min payments on it for a while til I had the 20k paid down on the mortgage. Then pay off the card before the 0% APR period runs out.


I would try to make at least 3x min payments.

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Anonymous
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Re: Utilizing a 0% APR on purchases offer

Thanks for the advice all. Seems like it may not be worthwhile if my credit is going to take a substantial hit (take me sub 720). I like being able to apply to new credit card offers with great bonuses too much to sacrifice that.

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Creditaddict
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Re: Utilizing a 0% APR on purchases offer


@Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for the advice all. Seems like it may not be worthwhile if my credit is going to take a substantial hit (take me sub 720). I like being able to apply to new credit card offers with great bonuses too much to sacrifice that.


I dont think you will go sub 720!

you are talking about 1 out of 6? credit cards using 75%+ of it's credit line and then paying it back down over a 9 month period?

you will see the most loss to your points probably for the months that you are over 75% but as soon as that number comes down below 50%, below 30%, below 9% you will gain all your points back.

and once again people are concerned more about a credit score for a VERY TEMPORARY timeframe and forgetting about the what was it $100+ you will save a month for the remainder of a what 29 YEAR mortgage!? I understand paying normally you might be below pmi in what 5 years, 7 years? that's still THOUSANDS of dollars saved and a very short short time of a little lower score and you said it yourself if you had to you could use savings and pay it off... if you see to big of a dip to your credit and you need to apply for something you can have your score back in less than 1 month by paying it off!

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