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Why would you not want your card to graduate? That is part of the rebuilding process.
@Anonymous wrote:
It seems that Webbank underwrites cards and loans for dozens of places like Prosper, Fingerhut, Avant...I am intentionally paying a Fingerhut loan 1 day late in order to not graduate to their unsecured card. Its a $2 balance. My question is will this affect my history or internal score with Webbank if I apply for a card or loan which they back? Any info is appreciated
It may affect your internal history with them but not your credit, since you have to be 30 days late to have the 30-day late derogoratory mark added to your credit reports.
IMHO, even if the revolving account reports, your AAoA won't be affected much. I can't gauge what the damage will be, but it won't be much. YMMV.
Just pay the bill. I would not want to pay a late fee on $2 balance.
@Anonymous wrote:
It seems that Webbank underwrites cards and loans for dozens of places like Prosper, Fingerhut, Avant...I am intentionally paying a Fingerhut loan 1 day late in order to not graduate to their unsecured card. Its a $2 balance. My question is will this affect my history or internal score with Webbank if I apply for a card or loan which they back? Any info is appreciated
This is like the what not to do with credit and im suprised you would consider it especially with your Navy approvals snd income. Intentionally paying something late just is a bad precedent to set. If you dont want the card , then cancel it but once you start playing with not paying something on time or in accordance with your agreements ,especially if you have means to pay, its a slippery slope. Sorry im just suprised at this but its just my opinion.
As to your question, not sure what affect it would have but in this dsy and age, records are kept so i imagine they will know of previous delinquency.
@Anonymous, pay the bill on time.
Close Fingerhut today if you want to prevent the second account from appearing. The closed account will still contribute to your profile and score.
People who are building or rebuilding are going to have a young AoYA (age of youngest account) and AAoA (average age of accounts). That's just how it is. Acquiring a new account isn't going to change that by much. If your age stats were much older, there'd be cause for concern.
I agree with others here. I would never, ever intentionally pay something late when I have the funds to take care of it. Just pay the balance and close.
So this is the other main thing...I dont think Im a rebuilder anymore...heres my current FICOs
EX08 - 740
TU08 - 754
EQ08 - 778
Fico9s are all 20pts higher.
Oldest acct 12yrs
AAoA 2+yrs
AoYA 1mo
Util 3%, no COs or lates on any bureau clean file
Inqs last 12 mos: 3/3/9
Started this journey in spring with 590/608/690 scores
@Anonymous wrote:
Thanks for the input guys but I shouldve been more clear, Im not paying it 30 days late, just one day.
The way Fingergut freshstart works is you have an 8 month installment loan for a small $50 or $100 purchase. If you make all 8 payments on time, the loan will be paid off and you'll be given a revolving card with Fingerhut. In other words, loan is closed and a new revolver opens.
I have 5 new accts this year already and plan to go for a car loan. My AAoA has steadily dropped from 5yrs to 3.7yrs to 3.0 to 2.5 as it is. With another revolver it would go down further - Id certainly get dinged for it AND get dinged for having no open loans.
The way I see it (and disagree if you do) is the worst consequence is I get charged a $2 late fee (yes $2) and Fingerhut never lets me get a credit card with them. Since its not a 30 day late, my credit isn't harmed. Id then pay the loan off one day after the due date and simply not graduate. This way, when I go for an Amex or car loan or mortgage in the next two years I have one less new account to be showing....thats my thinking
OP you're free to do as you choose. You asked for advice, we offered. In my opinion, not that I'm interested in anything WebBank has to offer at the moment, but the reason I wouldn't want to pay late is because while it may not affect your credit being reported, it could potentially put a dark spot on an internal profile with them.
With the way lenders buy and sell account these days, you never know if an account you have (or may want in the future) will end up in the hands of WebBank or any other bank for that matter. Paying on time helps to keep a clean report to the bureaus as well as internally. Again, do was you wish but the advice mentioned in this thread from other is solid and for any of us to advise a forum member to intentionally pay late would be as bad as taking a wrecking ball to the foundation that this forum is build upon.
Best of luck to you in whatever you decide.