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Anonymous
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What am I missing?

I am still very new to the group, started here about a month ago. Let me say that there is a weath of info here and it has already improved my scores about 15+ points in last 30 days. Now, I understand the whole concenpt of available credit and usage but I am having a hard time understanding what the adantage is to lots of credit cards and available credit in the hundreds of thousands? Unless I hit the lottery or find a buried treasure in my backyard, I can see myself spending around $2000 per month on my credit cards and paying them full each month. So if I was able to build my credit to the point of 4 or 5 cards with a total of $80,000 to $100,000 SL, why would I need any more than that? Please understand that I am not trying to bash anyone but just not sure what the advantage is. Thanks again for this being a great resource!

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Anonymous
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Re: What am I missing?

Following. I want to know as well Smiley Tongue

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deltatee
Frequent Contributor

Re: What am I missing?

IMO the advantage comes from a lot of signup bonuses, or benefits for particular airlines/hotels that someone uses a lot.  There are a lot of us on the boards with good scores who do not have wallets full of cards and hundreds of thousands in credit.  I think the thing to remember is that you have to do what works best for your credit profile.  Each new card takes a hit on your credit because of the HP and a hit to your AAOA.  Additionally, some people's spending and lifestyle don't justify the costs of new cards.  

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Anonymous
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Re: What am I missing?

I see a lot of people get more credit to keep their utilization low. It helps build up your score. Other people are just addicted to credit cards and the latest credit card trends. Others do it for the rewards you get when you get a new card. 

 

 

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takeshi74
Senior Contributor

Re: What am I missing?


@Anonymous wrote:

Now, I understand the whole concenpt of available credit and usage but I am having a hard time understanding what the adantage is to lots of credit cards and available credit in the hundreds of thousands?


This is a very common topic so don't overlook the countless prior threads on the matter as a resource.  It's not so much a matter of the limit itself.  This is just an example of a site restricted Google search.  Feel free to play with the keywords if needed and date filter results as desired.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=why%20high%20limits%20site%3Aficoforums.myfico.com

 

Consider:

  • The standard FICO factors and their typical weights: http://www.myfico.com/crediteducation/whatsinyourscore.aspx
  • Revolving Utilization has a significant impact and falls under Amounts Owed, the second biggest factor typically at ~30%.
  • Lower Revolving Utilization is better with a generally suggested maximum of 30% and ideal falling well under 10%
  • Revovling Utilization =  balance(s) / limit(s).

 

What happens when you increase the numerator in a fraction?  You end up with a smaller number.  Since limit(s) is the denominator, having higher limits means that it's easier to have lower reported Revovling Utilization.

 

 

That said, one can always reduce Revolving Utilization by paying down balances prior to report date as well.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

Unless I hit the lottery or find a buried treasure in my backyard, I can see myself spending around $2000 per month on my credit cards and paying them full each month. 


Again, considering the impact of Revolving Utilization, don't look at limits as how much you intend to spend.  If the general suggestion is "do not exceed 30%" then you want around 3x your spend in limits but more doesn't hurt if it gets you lower.  10x your spend or more would probably be ideal.

 

My spend and limits put me at 3% and that's with a balance being carried on a 0% offer.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

why would I need any more than that?


It's up to you to determine that just as it is to determine which cards suit you and other things regarding your credit.  Different people have different levels of spend, need different limits to cover their spend, keep revolving utilization in check, etc.  You have to sort out what works for your and what your targets are.  Instead on focusing on just limits, educate yourself on credit scoring and assessment.  Use that info along with your spend and other criteria to determine what you need/want.

 

If your targeted Revolving Utilization is 2-3% then you wouldn't need any more than $80K - $100K for $2K of spend.

 


@Anonymous wrote:

Please understand that I am not trying to bash anyone but just not sure what the advantage is. 


There are certainly those who continually seek out higher limits just for the sake of having higher limits or for bragging rights but, again, it's up to the individual to determine what one's priorities and goals are.

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Anonymous
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Re: What am I missing?

I agree and understand all of your responses and also realize that everyones credit and spending habits are unique to that person. I didn't know if I was missing the boat on this matter but it appears like it is more personal preference. As I rebuild back to my high 790 glory days I will be keeping it simple. I also think the more cards you have that your odds are greater for a stolen identity. JMO. As I said I love this forum and how addicting my rebuilding has become.

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Anonymous
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Re: What am I missing?

Because it's fun.

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bourgogne
Valued Contributor

Re: What am I missing?


@Anonymous wrote:

I agree and understand all of your responses and also realize that everyones credit and spending habits are unique to that person. I didn't know if I was missing the boat on this matter but it appears like it is more personal preference. As I rebuild back to my high 790 glory days I will be keeping it simple. I also think the more cards you have that your odds are greater for a stolen identity. JMO. As I said I love this forum and how addicting my rebuilding has become.


as a person that also had 800s I feel you .. show us your cards, so to speak. curious where your scores are and what you are holding at the moment and what your rebuild plan is. I for one am always up for seeing other ways to go about it. take care
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Aahz
Established Contributor

Re: What am I missing?


@Anonymous wrote:

Now, I understand the whole concenpt of available credit and usage but I am having a hard time understanding what the adantage is to lots of credit cards and available credit in the hundreds of thousands? Unless I hit the lottery or find a buried treasure in my backyard, I can see myself spending around $2000 per month on my credit cards and paying them full each month. So if I was able to build my credit to the point of 4 or 5 cards with a total of $80,000 to $100,000 SL, why would I need any more than that?


Everyone has their own situation.  

The only way I spend money is on my credit cards and (due to being self-employed)  I spend between $10k and $25k per month and then PIF.  

Due to a few recent family emergencies I'm currently carrying about $40k in 0% Balance Transfers.  That wouldn't have been possible if I didn't have more than a dozen cards and over $250k in available credit.

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kdm31091
Super Contributor

Re: What am I missing?

Some people just enjoy chasing after different perks, bonuses, whatever and basically, collecting cards as a hobby. To each their own. I am of the mindset that the more cards you spread your spending across, the less valuable each card really becomes because the rewards are so diluted that they become miniscule, depending on your income/spending.

 

If we're just talking about building a credit history, 3-4 cards with decent limits is plenty. More than that is not necessary for any purpose other than going after different rewards and such.

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