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What's REALLY the difference with branded and co-branded?

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icyhot
Valued Contributor

What's REALLY the difference with branded and co-branded?

I keep seeing people saying that ci-branded cards with some lenders are easier to get than their flagship cards. I'm really curious as to why or if anyone has insight on the reasoning. If someone defaults on a BCE or CSP, the bank will take the same hit as if it was on a Delta Amex or Marriott card. Am I missing something?
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Anonymous
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Re: What's REALLY the difference with branded and co-branded?


@icyhot wrote:
I keep seeing people saying that ci-branded cards with some lenders are easier to get than their flagship cards. I'm really curious as to why or if anyone has insight on the reasoning. If someone defaults on a BCE or CSP, the bank will take the same hit as if it was on a Delta Amex or Marriott card. Am I missing something?

I don't know, but maybe the Mariott, Delta etc. shares in it

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pipeguy
Senior Contributor

Re: What's REALLY the difference with branded and co-branded?

Citi backs my Brooks Brothers ($2100), Wawa ($1000), Macy's ($5000) and Home Depot ($20,000) with no issues, no lates, usually PIF on all except special 0% financing through HD at times but will NOT approve me for a Branded CitiBank card - go figure Smiley Frustrated

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ddemari
Super Contributor

Re: What's REALLY the difference with branded and co-branded?

cobranded cards can be easier to get with certain lenders. Delta Amex is known for being an easy amex revolver. Chase is known to be flexible on their cobranded cards from United to Marriott. but Citi and their cards, forget it on being easy. 

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Anonymous
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Re: What's REALLY the difference with branded and co-branded?

I think, perhaps, the Company (not the CC company) expects to have a certain % approved and may be willing to relax on criteria for approval. I would think the company would have some sort of "insurance" against a default, but I could be wrong.

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Sharingan
Established Contributor

Re: What's REALLY the difference with branded and co-branded?

Well, cobranded cards generally have above average interest rates, especially those store cards; so risk has been assessed accordingly across that entire portfolio by the bank. It's also possible that the associated party has assumed some of the risk with the bank for relaxing underwriting criteria for their particular brand's credit card. 

 

It's really hard to tell what agreements have been arranged for these products.



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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: What's REALLY the difference with branded and co-branded?

Let's turn the question a little bit:

 

Name a co-branded credit card (not a store card) that does NOT have an AF.

 

The co-branded points systems, except for SPG, tend to go into just one program, you are tending to be locked into one redemption option. Marriott is another example where the points can be transferred elsewhere, for something of a penalty on the way out.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
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Espresso
Contributor

Re: What's REALLY the difference with branded and co-branded?

Capital One GMC BuyPower does not have AF. 

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Anonymous
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Re: What's REALLY the difference with branded and co-branded?


@NRB525 wrote:

Let's turn the question a little bit:

 

Name a co-branded credit card (not a store card) that does NOT have an AF.

 

The co-branded points systems, except for SPG, tend to go into just one program, you are tending to be locked into one redemption option. Marriott is another example where the points can be transferred elsewhere, for something of a penalty on the way out.


Hilton has 2 no AF cards, 1 with Amex and 1 with Citi.

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: What's REALLY the difference with branded and co-branded?


@Espresso wrote:

Capital One GMC BuyPower does not have AF. 


And how does one collect on the "rewards" offered by the Buy Power card? By spending tens of thousands on a new vehicle with vague pricing structures Smiley Happy

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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