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What's the best util rate again?

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jason0618
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What's the best util rate again?

Sorry, I can't really remember. It seems like around 9% util was the sweet spot for best score, but I don't know for sure. Credit cards got racked up with Christmas and I'm paying them all by the end of January. They're at about 95% this month, and I can pay them all completely off, or whatever is the best.
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kdm31091
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Re: What's the best util rate again?

Usually paying all but one off, and leaving the one to report 1-9% util is recommended for the absolute best possible score.

 

Outside of fine tuning your score for every single point, generally staying under 30% total util is advised. Under 20 is even better.

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Anonymous
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Re: What's the best util rate again?

Usually 1-9% on one card out of your profile is best.
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Anonymous
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Re: What's the best util rate again?


@Anonymous wrote:
Usually 1-9% on one card out of your profile is best.

+1 For two years I experimented with my real credit profile and this response nails it on the head. Actually today, 1% is my best position with one mortgage account, one installment loan, one store card and one bank card reporting.

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vanillabean
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Re: What's the best util rate again?

More often than not, 1-99% on one card and zero on the rest works. Smiley Tongue

 

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EW800
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Re: What's the best util rate again?

I know every profile is different, however in my case I believe I have found my sweetest spot to be 1% or even less. Perhaps everything between 1% and 9% are not all in the same bucket? i allow about $20 on my $7k CL card report and all the others ($65k or so CL) report $0.
Year 2012: All Scores in the 520 range, during a foreclosure, CC Settlement and high UTIL. Very ugly days...
Sept 2024: EX8: 847; EQ8: 850; TU8: 848 -- Middle Mortgage Score: 821
In My Wallet: Discover $73.7K; Cap1 Venture $51.7K; Amex ED $38K; Amex Optima $2.5K; Amex Delta Gold $18K; Citi Costco $24.5K; Cap1 Plat $8.4K; Barclay $7K; Chase Amazon $6K; BoA Plat $21.6K; Citi TY Pref $22K; US Bank $4K; Dell $5K; Care Credit $6.5K. Total Revolving CL: $300K+
My UTIL: Less than 1% - Only allow about $20 a month to report, on one account. .
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NRB525
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Re: What's the best util rate again?


@jason0618 wrote:
Sorry, I can't really remember. It seems like around 9% util was the sweet spot for best score, but I don't know for sure. Credit cards got racked up with Christmas and I'm paying them all by the end of January. They're at about 95% this month, and I can pay them all completely off, or whatever is the best.

OP, I'm guessing you don't have a huge number of cards, or $100k of CL? That overal amount of debt is just as important as any utilization discussions.

 

Can you share the list of cards you have, their CL and how much is outstanding on each?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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jason0618
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Re: What's the best util rate again?

Yeah, I did another post with the info, but just got more judgmental posts that seemed to lecture me on credit usage. No real help.
Anyway, you're right. Low limits in my cards:
NFCU nRewards $1000 limit. Currently $980 reporting
Barclay Apple $1700 limit. Currently $16xx reporting
Barclay rewards $1300 limit. Currently $12xx reporting
Jared card $700 limit. Currently $0 reporting
Credit one card $600 limit. Currently $5xx reporting.

That said, credit one is a no brainer. No grace period, it needs to be pif immediately. The others, does it matter which reports 0-9%? I usually just throw a tank of gas on or something small and pay it when the bill comes. Every so often, I make a larger purchase and pay when the bill comes. With Christmas, I didnt. Ran them up, paid some, now this month I'm ready for them to go away again.
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takeshi74
Senior Contributor

Re: What's the best util rate again?


@jason0618 wrote:
Sorry, I can't really remember.

Don't overlook existing threads. I know I posted a reply in thread about this topic yesterday.  If search isn't yielding results then try a site restricted Google search.  For this site just add site:ficoforums.myfico.com to your keywords.  Here's an example (second hit for me appears to be the thread I mentioned):

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=ideal%20utiliza...

 


@jason0618 wrote:
They're at about 95% this month, and I can pay them all completely off, or whatever is the best.

You don't need to carry a balance for scoring purposes so you can pay them all off.

 


@Anonymous-own-fico wrote:

More often than not, 1-99% on one card and zero on the rest works. 


Individual utilization matters as well as overall.  High utilization on one card or maxing one card is not best.

 


@jason0618 wrote:
The others, does it matter which reports 0-9%?

Nope.  Even if it did it would be impossible (well, ok, extremely tedious) to maintain a prioritized list of every possible card out there.

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NRB525
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Re: What's the best util rate again?


@jason0618 wrote:
Yeah, I did another post with the info, but just got more judgmental posts that seemed to lecture me on credit usage. No real help.
Anyway, you're right. Low limits in my cards:
NFCU nRewards $1000 limit. Currently $980 reporting
Barclay Apple $1700 limit. Currently $16xx reporting
Barclay rewards $1300 limit. Currently $12xx reporting
Jared card $700 limit. Currently $0 reporting
Credit one card $600 limit. Currently $5xx reporting.

That said, credit one is a no brainer. No grace period, it needs to be pif immediately. The others, does it matter which reports 0-9%? I usually just throw a tank of gas on or something small and pay it when the bill comes. Every so often, I make a larger purchase and pay when the bill comes. With Christmas, I didnt. Ran them up, paid some, now this month I'm ready for them to go away again.

Ok, I recognize the list, you are looking to get toward a mortgage later.

Regarding the responses from posters here, a list of high utilization cards like that raises the defensive/panic response in a lot of people. So you have to take the "honest advice" as coming from many different perspectives.

 

When you pay these down rapidly, it indicates the ability to pay, and some lenders who gave you these low limits might eventually be encouraged to give you CLI. Thus the earlier question about "optimal utilization" depends on whether you are gunning for a CLI or not. If you were going for a CLI, paid these down to near zero (closed the CreditOne) and then charged them up, paid them down again, that is a tactic I've used on smaller limit cards as well. Sometimes it works to get a CLI, sometimes not. The high utilization definitely can reduce your FICO, however the number of points involved tends to be minor.

 

If your credit file is fairly short lived, then the regular use of these cards, showing amounts and making payments every month, in my opinion, is the best way to grow your score. FICO uses "No Missed Payments for XX months" as the primary feature of your score, and so the more months you build with good payment history, is good. With low limit cards, it is impossible to maintain very low utilization.

 

Given that you want to apply for a mortgage, you will want to begin to control your utilization, so the "charge, pay, rinse and repeat" for CLI is not appropriate in that case. My comment on the other thread, to check with a mortgage banker, is still relevant. You should get a professional opinion to see where you stand, what you can expect for a mortgage, and that will give you the best strategy to follow.

 

Good luck!

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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