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Why I detest Cap1 and LOVE Amex

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Why I detest Cap1 and LOVE Amex

Been a few years since I related this story, but it's still a good story, and I still hate capital one, and still love Amex, so here goes...

 

Four years back I had just moved to the US from Canada (see, my username checks out!) and trying to figure out credit cards and such. I learned the awful truth that my great Canadian credit record didn't mean squat to anyone in the US and I would be starting my credit journey from zero. Well, I thought, maybe the companies I have an existing relationship with will help me out? 

 

So my main driver in Canada was a Capital One card. Yup, same Capital One, they have a Canadian operation. And it was my main card for years, I had a high limit, always paid my bill on time, never late. Had run 10's of thousands through it in the few months before I moved, renovating my home to get it ready to rent out when I left--and paid all of it off down to zero. No debts on any card. I was a good customer.

 

So I called Capital One thinking they are a US company, I'm a good customer, they'll maybe give me a break. I explained my situation to the Capital One CSR and asked if there was some way I could get a US card. Answer from Capital One: No. We don't do that. Plus now that we know you are no longer in Canada we are closing all your Canadian accounts with immediate effect. Literally, they were all cancelled on the spot on that phone call. Bye bye Capital One. Could I apply for a US card? Sure. And you'll be denied because you have no US history. Please cut up your cards now and don't forget to pay your final bill.

 

I was floored. 

 

So then I called Amex. I had an old Amex sitting in my sock drawer. I hadn't used it in probably 10 years. Don't think it had gotten even one charge on it in all that time--but hey, I was a customer right? So give Amex a call, see if they will hook me up.

 

Answer? Sure, thank you for being a customer, we can issue you a US card with the same limit, which card would you like? And by the way, do you want to keep your Canadian one or close it? Up to me. Oh, but wait--we need to verify your address, do you have a recent bill or bank statement you can fax in?

 

And this is where I really, really love Amex: NO. I don't have a recent bill, I just moved here last week, no bill yet. OK, does your bank have your updated address? Yup--but I don't have a bill yet. No problem, says the Amex rep: LET'S CALL YOUR BANK. So the Amex rep dials my bank and waits on hold for 20 mintues until my bank finally answers the phone--Amex rep ON HOLD WITH ME THE WHOLE TIME. And finally my bank answers, confirms my address, and Amex card is in the mail and on the way to me--courier delivery to my home to get me started.

 

Night and day.

 

I'm not very loyal--I'm driving my spending through my BoA cards now. But every now and then I want to put this story out there because nobody, and I mean nobody beats Amex for customer service, absolutely nobody.

 

And nobody is worse than Capital One. At least in my experience.

 

Happy Monday everyone!

 

 

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Remedios
Credit Mentor

Re: Why I detest Cap1 and LOVE Amex

Apples and oranges. Cap1 has their own business model, the one that does not include porting over credit history. Most lenders do not.

Some may agree with your highly subjective assessment on both lenders, some will not.
There is never a shortage of opinions on both of them.
Thank you for sharing, tho.
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Anonymous
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Re: Why I detest Cap1 and LOVE Amex


@Anonymous wrote:

But every now and then I want to put this story out there because nobody, and I mean nobody beats Amex for customer service, absolutely nobody.

 

And nobody is worse than Capital One. At least in my experience.

 


The key part here above is "At least in my experience."

 

It's important to understand that there are fantastic stories and horror stories for every lender.  Somewhere on this forum there's someone that thinks Capital One is the best lender out there based on their own experiences and that same person had a horrific experience with Amex.  It's good to here all of these experiences, though, as we all get to take in the good and the bad.

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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: Why I detest Cap1 and LOVE Amex

What Cap1 did is pretty standard. Just like co-branded divisions don't talk to legacy divisions or share that data, international offices don't tend to either. I'm also going to go out on a limb that you had one of the higher level Amex cards based on the courier comment. I can tell you that the India based reps for my Delta Gold would not call my bank or stay on hold for 20 mins. They'd give me a phone and/or fax number for when I got the proper documentation. Nor would they overnight my card.

 

It's Nice to see a bank take care of someone, but like the others said, everyone's experience will vary.

    
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Anonymous
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Re: Why I detest Cap1 and LOVE Amex

I actually had a pretty generic no fee "Airmiles" Amex, which earned points towards Air Canada's miles system. It was in no way a premium card.

And yeah, they stayed in the line with me in the hold queue listening to "all our representatives are busy serving other customers, please hold and your call will be answered in sequence".

It surprised me too that they were willing to go that distance to help me out. They could have just said call back in a month when you have a bill to show us, but they took an extra twenty minutes to get me going immediately.

I was impressed and one of the reasons why I like telling this story is I think they deserve public credit for that level of service.
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MrDisco99
Valued Contributor

Re: Why I detest Cap1 and LOVE Amex

I’m sorry but if I call a bank asking for help and their response is to close all my accounts, that’s a really crappy way to treat a customer no matter if that’s “standard” or not. I think Amex deserves some praise for understanding that sometimes people move.
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FinStar
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Re: Why I detest Cap1 and LOVE Amex

As stated further above, not everyone will have the same experience. You'll definitely see it on here plus other blogs/boards with folks disliking AmEx and plenty of 'hate' and 'love' for others like Chase, WF, Barclays and so forth.

Just as an aside OP, I had no problems obtaining a Canadian-issued Capital One MC by their retail partner Hudson's Bay. Granted, not the main suite of CCs such as those similar to those states-side, but nevertheless issued by CO. I went through a few little hoops to get approved, yet they never mentioned anything about closing or restricting any of my current Capital One CCs. So, your experience is definitely an outlier and unfortunate.

On the upside, you found yourself an oasis from your existing AmEx cardmembership.
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