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Why so many CCs?

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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?

I have several cards and depending on my use for them would answer your questions.  I have certain store cards for special financing offers, I have cash back cards for everyday use.  I have biz credit now for the obvious.  Yes it can be a matter of uti or it can be a matter of smart management.  I always compare special offers and had it not been for a 'Too good to refuse' BT offer from Cap1 it would be shredded.  It probably will be once the balance is paid off.
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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?

I probably carry more cards than the average person, and that's even after a marathon session of canceling cards back in '96. There are actually a couple of reasons I wound up with holding on to multiple cards.

Diversity: Amex, Discover, Visa and MC

When I used to travel more often and vacation in Canada (Quebec and BC), I kept finding places that didn't take Visa, most took Amex and some took both Amex and MC. Things may have changed by now though. I also found that certain cards seemed to offer better exchange rates than others.

DH and I were really into our Discover for the cashback for some period then got tired of our card getting randomly frozen for fraud alert. His spending pattern was different from mine, so that might have kept their system confused. For example, we'd get a call or have to call in to find out they froze our account because we visited a gas station twice in one day. "Suspicious activity."

There was also the phase I went through using cards based on billing cycles. I labeled DH's cards with dates, "26-12," "2-16," etc to maximize the number of days money earned interest before being used to pay bills. He rolled his eyes but like the good man he is, he humored me. It didn't last at least. Chuckle.

Also, there were his and hers cards...the cards we each had before meeting each other. And since these are our oldest cards (18-20 years), we're not likely to close them any time soon.

Today, we mostly use our Amex. We recently used our Discover card to take advantage of the current 5% promo, but I made sure to call them before going out of town to say, "We are going to be in HI and we will use our Discover card, could you please put a note mentioning that in our account?" Sigh. We have a Visa for the places that don't take Amex and a MC for places who don't take Visa nor Amex (like Sam's Club).

I have noticed over the years, rewards programs change enough that my rewards cards seem to jockey back and forth as to which ones have the better program for us. Shrug.

So it depends on how much management one is willing and able to do.

[Edited to add line breaks.]

Message Edited by PenguinGeek on 10-12-2007 08:48 PM
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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?

"There was also the phase I went through using cards based on billing cycles. I labeled DH's cards with dates, "26-12," "2-16," etc to maximize the number of days money earned interest before being used to pay bills. He rolled his eyes but like the good man he is, he humored me. It didn't last at least. Chuckle."
 
LOL.. I shudder to think what would happen if I tried that.  Probably get me committed.  It's very tempting though.  
 
Honestly, I think it's a great idea 
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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?

Basic
card 1 Amex Or Discover , PIF
card 2 rewards Visa or Mastercard backup for card 1 PIF
card 3 Visa or Mastercard with  a low preferably fix rate Revolve
 
Additionally a Retail Rewards card that awards bonus rewards on purchases at your Favorite Merchant. PIF
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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?

Now see I have two retail rewards cards (electronics) and depending on which store has the best deat will tell me which one I am using. The other two retail cards I have were Wally World and Target though neither gets a lot of use but I'm not closing them.  Especially Wally world since it is the second oldest card I have.  I don't use them ften but right now BB has a 36 mos same as cash.  Too bad I don't have room for another television set...lol!!! But seriously, I carry both CC and Best Buy because I buy a lot of electronics and peripherals, that plus a teenaged kid.  No way will Visa give me those financing deals and I usuallly wind up paying no interest whatsoever.
 
I also find that if you tell the competition that CC or BB offered you a special finance or rate, you can barter for the same item.  Its how I purchased my 1800.00 (before tax) television for just over 1100.00 (after taxes).  But that was HHGregg and CC fighting for my business.  To bad I don't have an HHGregg card. Yes bartering is still possible and I will usually do it on a big ticket item.  Works a little better if you have a bill of sale in hand.
 
On second thought,  uh NO!! Just checked and its issued by GEMB, probably wind up with a 100.00 limit.  lol!!


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Message Edited by Brammy on 10-12-2007 09:58 PM
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smallfry
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Re: Why so many CCs?



@Anonymous wrote:
I only use 2-3 cards for personal use. The rest are for business to help with accounting. 1 card per expense, 1 total per expense. Takes seconds to do accounting.

But there is an advantage in scoring later down the road with more cards. More open accounts to keep up average age when they get older.

As for the obsession for so many cards. After being denied for so long it feels good to be approved by all the places that denied you I guess. Also with credit lines of only $200 it is another way to raise total CL for UTL. But if you have a few high limit cards it doesn't matter nearly as much.


Helps with average age? I dunno. In ten years after everything closed drops off my reports my average age will be 10 years on all the new accounts I have opened this year whether I open more cards now or not. I don't see your point but maybe I am missing something.
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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?

I also often wonder how do individuals manage 8+ credit cards every month. For me 6 is a pain. My plan is to get down to three (with high limits) - slowly - over the next 5 years.

I think I want one Amex, one mastercard, and one visa. I personally despise store cards - but who knows...maybe I'll have four because of a future best buy shopping spree!
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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?

I have 9 and the DW has 15-

Thank you online banking-and MS Money.

ALL of my bills get automatically pulled into online banking automatically EXCEPT mortgage and car loan.
even Power, phone/cable/internet, cell, water.

Takes about 60 seconds once a week to pay them.

She will be down to 4 (Plus 2 AU) of her own next week when I finish paying all of hers off.

One of those 4 is her current allowance card- (can't come up with a better word) that gets PIF every month.
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smallfry
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Re: Why so many CCs?



@pjriverap wrote:
I also often wonder how do individuals manage 8+ credit cards every month. For me 6 is a pain. My plan is to get down to three (with high limits) - slowly - over the next 5 years.

I think I want one Amex, one mastercard, and one visa. I personally despise store cards - but who knows...maybe I'll have four because of a future best buy shopping spree!


I don't need a slew of cards myself but I wouldn't go lower than my present 5 plus a store card. You need to keep your options open in case a lender goes wacky on you. I think I might go for another one or two not quite sure yet.
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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?


@smallfry wrote:
Helps with average age? I dunno. In ten years after everything closed drops off my reports my average age will be 10 years on all the new accounts I have opened this year whether I open more cards now or not. I don't see your point but maybe I am missing something.



Example. (not to be taken literally)

Person A has 20 credit cards that are all 10 years old. All open.
20x10=200 dived by 20 accounts = avg 10.0 years.
Person A adds 3 new accounts.
200 dived by 23 accounts = avg 8.7 years.

Person B has 4 credit cards that are all 10 years old. All open.
4x10=40 dived by 4 accounts = avg 10.0 years.
Person B adds 3 new accounts.
40 dived by 7 accounts = avg 5.7 years.

Person A with 20 credit cards has an average age 3 years older.

Now look at this.
Person A adds 15 new accounts
200 dived by 35 accounts = avg 5.7 years.

Person A with more credit cards can add (5 times) more new accounts before matching average age compared to Person B who only opened 3 new accounts.

You need to add all the cards when your average age is very young and let them age 10 years. Mostly for people rebuilding or new to credit since they can't really lower their avg age much lower than it already is. They only can gain.

For people with an established avg age, it's a little late to add all these cards because it will just lower their avg.

To answer your question... Yes after 10 years closed accounts will fall off and avg will return to normal. But for the first few years after the new accounts are open the age will drop. And to be honest it probably doesn't hurt that much even if your avg age drops a few years. A few points. Maybe I go over board a little sometimes?

But it really depends on how many accounts a person needs to open. If they only open 1-3 a year, it's not a big deal. But if they open many for business then they would need more cards to keep up their average age. It's about keeping a balance.

Message Edited by ilovepizza on 10-13-2007 09:18 AM
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