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Why so many CCs?

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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?

What exactly does that mean - - 'dropping your average age' ... etc.
 
According to MyFico stats I have 8 years worth - - I'm not sure what that means since, I had credit way more than 8 years ago.  Now I'm reading about getting multiple cards and ensuring that you don't drop lower than 6 years and trying to attain a goal of 10+ years ..... arggghhh!! head about to explode.
Please explain the magic to the strategy and these algorithms.
 
Thanks -
Bewildered
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smallfry
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Re: Why so many CCs?

OCD is obsessive compulsive disorder. Pizza can elaborate on that. Smiley Wink Get new cards and dilute your bad credit by obtaining more tradelines. Killing off fee based cards? Just close them. If you are eligible try some credit unions like Navy Federal for one. Good luck.
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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?



BOBINSKY wrote:
Hi everyone;
 
Ok, I've been reading these threads, and trying to make sense out of it ... and sorry, still not getting it.
I'm one of those that's been through credit hell and trying to get out from under.  Tried the secured cards, and high fee ones ... been turned down jerked around and been very discouraged.  Timothy wrote the following;
 
Some are OCD on getting more cards - (don't know what OCD means)
      ***  Kinda like throwing salt over your shoulder for luck .  Just applying for cards because they can with no real purpose to the madness.
Some are diluting bad credit with good - (how do you dilute bad credit with good)
       ****If your history is bad you can dilute the bad effects by establishing new credit and a positive payment history thus diluting the negative effects
Some are killing off sub-prime cards with fees - (don't get this either)
       *****Killing off subprime cards with fees means simply applying for new credit without the fees or the hassle of the subprime cards you may have aquried in order to build your credit history
 
It seems a lot of folks in this thread are issuing several applications all at once to several credit card issuers and hoping some will be accepted.  Is this the recommended way of trying to get credit and improving your score?  What happens with all the inquiries on your credit from all these sources?  Doesn't that lower your score, and hence get you deeper into the hole? 
******You don't get into any hole as long as you don't use the avail credit.  Many people apply for several new cards at one time in order to prevent the inquiries from the new applications for detracting from their scores .  If you app multiple cards in one sitting put careful thought into what you are applying for and realize that each new account will reage your history that much more.  You also need to put thoguht into the fact that whatever you re apporved for you most likely will have to settle for for the next 12 mos or so in order for the possible negative effects of the new accounts to be offset by good payment history
 
My Equifax is at 623 with a couple of very small medical collections which I'm disputing (due to insurance Co. mess-up). I'd like to understand how to effectively go about this to get credit (now I operate strickly on cash), and improve my scores. 
Thanks
*****you say that you have been turned down and jerked around wht cards are you applying for?  YOu say you have this one small collection.  Do you have any positive revolving credit? If not, most likely you will be turned down.  Have you tried Cap one products for limited history if not?  Have you pulled all three bureaus to be aboslutely sure that this is the only thing hurting your score?  Operating on cash weill never improve your score, you can try a secured card or Cap one HSBC is another good card for building or rebuilding credit.  Just be sure you are sure of what exactly is on your report.




 
With an 8 year history its hard to believe that these are your scores.



Message Edited by Brammy on 10-13-2007 11:40 AM
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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?

Yeap! that's my Equifax.  I'm going to check on the others.  I was on a mortgage that closed 4 years ago.  As for revolving credit, I just acquired a 'new' AU (new account), and looking to get on as an AU with a long standing account.  I just co-applied for an obtained a car loan.  Will it hurt or help to get on the AU with the long history or just try for the multiple apps?
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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?



BOBINSKY wrote:
Yeap! that's my Equifax.  I'm going to check on the others.  I was on a mortgage that closed 4 years ago.  As for revolving credit, I just acquired a 'new' AU (new account), and looking to get on as an AU with a long standing account.  I just co-applied for an obtained a car loan.  Will it hurt or help to get on the AU with the long history or just try for the multiple apps?


 
Make sure that the AU accoutn with the long history has low utilization and a pristine history.  You need to take advantage of it while you can though I am not sure if it is too late yet.  The new scoring models will no longer include the AU benefit.  Everyone will soon have to fly on their own creditworthiness.

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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?

Yes, it's pristine - about 6 years old, but with high utilization.  Will that hurt? 
Would it be better to go on it as joint if the AU benefit will be going away.?
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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?



BOBINSKY wrote:
Yes, it's pristine - about 6 years old, but with high utilization.  Will that hurt? 
Would it be better to go on it as joint if the AU benefit will be going away.?


 
Don't go joint on it if it has high uti.  You would be better off building your own credit file.  Depending on the utilization, if it is considered amxed out, over 90%, it can hurt your file as much as a collection.  Keep in mind, going joint would make you equally responsible for the debt in worse case scenario.  I don't believe in joint anymore than I believe in a cosignership.

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smallfry
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Re: Why so many CCs?



@Anonymous wrote:


@Anonymous wrote:
Yeap! that's my Equifax. I'm going to check on the others. I was on a mortgage that closed 4 years ago. As for revolving credit, I just acquired a 'new' AU (new account), and looking to get on as an AU with a long standing account. I just co-applied for an obtained a car loan. Will it hurt or help to get on the AU with the long history or just try for the multiple apps?


Make sure that the AU accoutn with the long history has low utilization and a pristine history. You need to take advantage of it while you can though I am not sure if it is too late yet. The new scoring models will no longer include the AU benefit. Everyone will soon have to fly on their own creditworthiness.




From what I am hearing Experian will not roll out FICO08 until some time in the first quarter of 2008 the other two much later in the year so he has time to use the AU.
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Dawn
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Re: Why so many CCs?

I appreciate everyone's participation and answers to my original questions.  I am lurking and learning and thrilled to learn about so many different perspectives.
 
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Anonymous
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Re: Why so many CCs?

Applying for credit cards is like dating in a small town. Everybody knows what's going on. So yes, if you apply for more, your chances are better at getting a date. But at the same time many better catches might shy away thinking your getting desperate. On the other had unlike dating banks want to see some experience before they give you better credit. One way to do this is with secured cards to show you can handle the responsibility. This can take 9-12 months before the better catches take interest.
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