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red259
Super Contributor

Re: account closure


@Anonymous wrote:
The 1% answer is not always the solution for everyone.

It is impractical and a waste of credit.

+1 I gave up trying to maintain 1% util. Its way too much of a hassle.I still PIF by the actual due dates but life it too short to micro-manage util. Maybe if I had an app cycle coming up. 

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Starting Score: EQ: 714, TU 684
Current Score: EQ: 725 7/30/13, TU 684 6/2013, Exp 828 5/2018, Last App 8/5/17
Goal Score: 800 (Achieved!) In garden until Sepetember 2019
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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: account closure

How is using your whole CL letting it report and PIF overextension?
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kdm31091
Super Contributor

Re: account closure


@Anonymous wrote:
How is using your whole CL letting it report and PIF overextension?

Typically using your whole limit can signal risk to an issuer. Whether that makes sense or not, that's how it is.

 

While people like us like rewards and love the whole "use credit instead of debit/cash" thing it doesn't mean the issuers want you to max out your cards. If you are going to make a huge purchase up to a credit limit and can't pay it off (or down significantly) right away you might want to rethink it, only put half on the card or something.

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: account closure

Or split it between cards.
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red259
Super Contributor

Re: account closure


@kdm31091 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
How is using your whole CL letting it report and PIF overextension?

Typically using your whole limit can signal risk to an issuer. Whether that makes sense or not, that's how it is.

 

While people like us like rewards and love the whole "use credit instead of debit/cash" thing it doesn't mean the issuers want you to max out your cards. If you are going to make a huge purchase up to a credit limit and can't pay it off (or down significantly) right away you might want to rethink it, only put half on the card or something.


Except when they give you smaller credit lines to start with, then its somewhat absurd. If I max out a 20k card I can understand their concern. If I max out a 3.7k (assuming this isn't a huge percentage of my overal util) card and have other cards with a 20k credit line that are untouched I would be ticked off if there was AA. I rarely carry balances (except for 0% apr and on those cards I pay like 6x the min payment each month). 

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Starting Score: EQ: 714, TU 684
Current Score: EQ: 725 7/30/13, TU 684 6/2013, Exp 828 5/2018, Last App 8/5/17
Goal Score: 800 (Achieved!) In garden until Sepetember 2019
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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: account closure


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
You give up the grace period.

Might as well negotiate a bigger discount.

Retailer isn't going to care.  Still a charge to them.  Not the same as cash.


You would be shocked how many retailers will negotiate on anything over a couple hundred bucks for cash. Often way more than 2-5%. 

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chalupaman
Super Contributor

Re: account closure

To the OP, good luck getting that card paid down. I think when you're able to do that, you can always try to call Chase EO and see what they can do for your or if they can reopen the account. Just wanted to say that since there have been a number of people here who have been successful with getting their Chase stuff reinstated even after some AA or an account closure.

Tradelines: Macy’s - $18k, Penfed Power Cash Rewards - $10k, Ethan Allen (TD Bank) - $5.7k, Kay Jewelers - $5.5k, Appliances Connection - $5.3k, Jared - $5.25k, Best Buy (Citi) - $5k, Dell Preferred Account - $3.5k, Samsung - $3.2k, Firestone CFNA - $3.2k, Capital One Platinum - $3k, Mercury MC - $2.25k, Williams Sonoma - $2.1k, Wayfair (Fortiva) - $2k, Amazon Store Card - $1.8k, Apple Card - $1.7k, NFCU cashRewards - $1.5k, CareCredit - $1.5k, B&H Photo - $1.5k, Adorama - $1.25k, Ebay MC - $1k, Sam’s Club MC - $1k, American Eagle - $1k, Ollo MC - $600, Mission Lane Visa - $500, NY & Company - $500, Walgreens - $500, Home Depot - $500, Target RED Card - $500, CapOne Secured MC 0 AF - $500, Penfed Overdraft LOC - $500

Current FICOS: Mid 640s-50s on all reports, Ch 7 BK D/C Aug 2019
Starting scores: EX - 534, EQ - 574, TU - 516 | Total TLs: $91k approx | Total Utilization: 17%, getting this back down
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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: account closure


@kdm31091 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
How is using your whole CL letting it report and PIF overextension?

Typically using your whole limit can signal risk to an issuer. Whether that makes sense or not, that's how it is.

 

While people like us like rewards and love the whole "use credit instead of debit/cash" thing it doesn't mean the issuers want you to max out your cards. If you are going to make a huge purchase up to a credit limit and can't pay it off (or down significantly) right away you might want to rethink it, only put half on the card or something.


I've run plenty of large percentage, large $ amount BT between various cards, so my experience is the CL are available to take advantage of good offers, provided you can show the ability to pay them off. Suddenly showing a maxed out $20k card is not a good idea if one has been showing only one card with a 1% balance for two years, but that is where the usage pattern, the history of dealing with larger statement balances, helps the bank algorithm to adjust to your actual usage pattern.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: account closure

+1, By tricking your FICOs with utilization tricks you only hurt yourself.
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CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: account closure


@NRB525 wrote:

@kdm31091 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:
How is using your whole CL letting it report and PIF overextension?

Typically using your whole limit can signal risk to an issuer. Whether that makes sense or not, that's how it is.

 

While people like us like rewards and love the whole "use credit instead of debit/cash" thing it doesn't mean the issuers want you to max out your cards. If you are going to make a huge purchase up to a credit limit and can't pay it off (or down significantly) right away you might want to rethink it, only put half on the card or something.


I've run plenty of large percentage, large $ amount BT between various cards, so my experience is the CL are available to take advantage of good offers, provided you can show the ability to pay them off. Suddenly showing a maxed out $20k card is not a good idea if one has been showing only one card with a 1% balance for two years, but that is where the usage pattern, the history of dealing with larger statement balances, helps the bank algorithm to adjust to your actual usage pattern.


Curious if you have had much AA done to you?  From your signature obviously you are carrying quite a bit of balance and I believe I read in another post or maybe this one that at one point you were like 110k in CC debt?  wowzers..   Seems like your profile supports holding big balances more than most, but this might be to you showing patterns of being able to hold them?  

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